Some Don't Quite Agree
Paul A. Keating
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Thu Jun 1 21:59:07 MDT 1995
I think this may have been meant for the list, but it
came direct to me. I have no qualms with being taken
to task, so I see no need to hide it. My response
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Subject: Re: A Democracy?
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Do you think I don't know this? Words have meanings not just by the
way the dictionary defines them, but by the way people use them.
Ask 100 people if we live in a democracy and 90 percent of them will
At 10:33 PM 5/30/95 -0500, Paul A. Keating wrote:
> From time to time there appears a need for a simple
> reminder of what should have been learned in high
> school civics:
> The United States of America is not a Democracy.
> The United States of America is a Democratic Republic.
> Yes. The USA was founded on principles of a republic,
> and not the principles of a democracy. There is quite
> a difference between a democracy and a republic. There
> is even a difference between a "run of the mill" republic
> and a democratic republic.
> For any cynics who doubt the above: Please don't further
> reveal just how much you forgot from that high school
> civics class by asking how this can be or by asking just
> what the differences are. Do us all a favor: visit your
> local library, find and sit down with a book about
> government, and read.
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My response, first sent private, but not needing to
be cloaked, either:
|Date: Thu, 01 Jun 1995 16:01:05 -0700
|From: space at AZStarNet.com (Steve Moyer)
|Subject: Re: A Democracy?
|Do you think I don't know this?
I don't know if you know this. Do you know this?
| Words have meanings not just by the
|way the dictionary defines them, but by the way people use them.
A civics (government) textbook was suggested as a source
reference for refresher training, not a dictionary.
If I call an apple "an orange," does the word "orange" used by
the people (me) define the fruit heretofore known as an apple?
Words having meaning "by the way people use them" is pure bunk,
and a puerile attempt at rationalizing the lax attitude toward
correct word usage that is sadly becoming more prevalent in the
USA. The language is being bastardized by those who use words
that they don't know the meaning of AND continue to misuse the
words vice seeking the definitions and correcting their misuse.
|Ask 100 people if we live in a democracy and 90 percent of them will
If 90 percent of those 100 people say we live in a democracy,
that 90 percent is WRONG. We may enjoy more democracy than
people in many other countries, and our republic may allow
more democracy to exist within our borders than other forms
of government allow where they exist, but the truth remains:
We live in a republic.
If in the middle ages 100 people were asked whether the world
was flat, 99.9999 percent of them would have said, "Yes."
Still, as those 0.0001 percent pointed out, the world was not
flat. Being wrong is being wrong, regardless of the number
who are wrong.
Majority rule does not change the zebra's stripes.
BTW, to keep things in perspective, my posting was sent to and
distributed by the RUSHTALK list. I hope you didn't think that
I singled you out for my statement just because the listserver
addressed the posting directly to you, and identified it as being
from me. Your response came direct and not via the listserver,
so I do not know whether you took umbrage (on a personal level)
with my posting.
PS: Most libraries are open on weekends, too.
|At 10:33 PM 5/30/95 -0500, Paul A. Keating wrote:
|> From time to time there appears a need for a simple
|> reminder of what should have been learned in high
|> school civics:
[ Etc., etc., deleted]
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