Crime, Unions, etc.
jbush at POST.CIS.SMU.EDU
Mon Aug 25 08:37:07 MDT 1997
On Wed, 20 Aug 1997, Richard Swerdlin wrote:
> > From: John Bush <jbush at POST.CIS.SMU.EDU>
> > To: RUSHTALK at athena.csdco.com
> > Subject: Re: Crime, Unions, etc.
> > Date: Tuesday, August 19, 1997 11:31
> > Bull. The courts would have ruled that way regardless of the union
> > status of the teacher. And that was my original point. As another
> > message stated, the only thing unions are concerned with is there own
> > survival. They don't care what they were created for--anything that
> > might allow them to survive, is what they will do. They moved in
> > direct opposition to union members desires with regards to the
> > anti-republican campaign last year--but they needed Clinton in the
> > Whitehouse more than they needed to support their members.
> Groups form in the US to promote various causes, one of which is
> their own survival. This phenomenon is not confined to a single class in
> our culture. Groups can be informal too. In Cincinnati there were
> informal meetings in efforts to fix minimum prices on Chevrolets, as I
> found out by chance in shopping for one.
Of course, you wouldn't tolerate this type of price fixing...just
union price fixing.
> The concern you express for union members estranged from union
> leaders resembles crocodile tears. As I said earlier, unions can scarcely
> survive, if this gap is not reduced. As you indicated, membership may be
> down to 15 percent of workers. It may diminish further. However, it is
> also possible that membership will rise. The future is hard to predict.
> Court decisions do not exist in a social vacuum. Marshalling
> opinion is useful in promoting more reasonable interpretations of statutes
> or customs.
That is a typical liberal response to the law, but it is not a
reasonable response. By looking at the debate surrounding the
implementation of a law, we can dicern what was intended. Judges
should never use public opinion as a factor in rendering decisions.
> The Ohio Education Association has promoted the fair treatment
> of teachers, including situations such as the ones regarding Cincinnati.
> During my membership in OEA, I recall said organization informing members
> that legal advice was available in Columbus, regarding any situation of
> relevance. Having served on one or two grievance committees, there was an
> assortment of questionable practices in Ohio, that came to my attention.
My father was forced to be a member of the NEA and the OEA. He often
disagreed with the way he spent his money, but what's that have to do
> The anti-union stance does not enjoy the support you apparently
> think it has. This is said in looking at overall election results and
> actions in Congress. This is not surprising, since there is usually a gap
> between rhetoric and votes on election day. Further, where was the Great
> Mandate regarding the Great Contract with America?
Do you mean when the Republicans took over Congress for the first
time in over 40 years? That's not a mandate?
> Even Newt Gingrich
> knows better, based on his extended experience in Washington. The First
> Hundred Days did not interfere with my respiration or that of my neighbors.
Should it have?
> It may have made points however with public speaking teachers. Perhaps
> Gingrich really meant the First Thousand Days. Social aritmetic is more
> treacherous than the more academic kind.
> Opinion polls suggest that there was greater support for IBT than
> UPS in the recent dispute. I have no particular or vested interest in this
> figure, since I am neither a union member or a user of UPS (several years
> ago I used it just once).
I have no idea who IBT is, nor do I think I care. The fact is, union
goons will run things as long as they can intimidate employees. I
can hardly believe union membership is as low as it is. Most
teachers, government employees, musicians, auto workers, pilots,
and truck drivers are forced to join unions to get a job. Even with
these types of policies, they can only get 15% union membership.
Maybe they should try representing their members as a way to bolster
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