Media Bias - Surprise
Stephen A. Frye
safrye at CONCENTRIC.NET
Thu Aug 28 15:09:39 MDT 1997
>It is not subject to much supposition. The founders wrote
>extensively on their reasoning.
Yes. Unfortunately, we tend to be governed only by the Constitution, not
by the subsequent or parallel writings. I say unfortunately - I really am
>You continue to say that arguments are silly and ridiculous. You may
>do so, but they are the real arguments. You may not think so today,
>but it will be obvious in 50 years. But by then, you probably just
Yes. 50 years from now I'll be dead.
>You mean all gun owners leave a loaded gun around the house? I think
>you are the one heading for absurdity. I have a friend whose father
>always had a loaded gun in the house. The difference was, he (my
>friend) didn't have to worry about hurting himself with the gun--if
>he ever messed with it, the real worry was his father.
This is exactly what I mean by absurdity. Your statement allows no middle
ground. You wonder if I mean "all", and I never said that. Then you cite
a somewhat valid opposing situation which appears to be used to invalidate
the claim of "all" which I didn;t make.
Also, if the loaded gun was truly accessible to the child - the father,
having taught the child or not, was negligent. Children, no matter how
well taught and reared, do not always do the right thing.
>If this happened to me, do you think it wise to look to me for an
>objective answer? As far as gross statistics are concerned, yes,
>even if it were my child, I would not want to infringe upon anyone's
>[second amendment] rights to possibly prevent this highly unlikely
I wouldn't feel that way. If my child gets killed, I will probably not be
very sympathetic of the killer's rights.
>A Constitutional right exists. Does that mean nothing to you? I
>wouldn't mind changing the explicit nature of the right, but until
>such time you are correct--death is a side issue. You cannot take
>away a constitional right for any reason. If the right cannot
>co-exist with a safe and peaceful country, then it must be changed.
I don't agree. Death, to me, is never a side issue.
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