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John B Hammes economic at NETINS.NET
Fri Dec 12 20:26:52 MST 1997


I'm sure Ma might very well be an organ of his own gov't.  I said he
gives insight about what one Chinese man thinks, but I didn't say he
gives insight as to why he thinks it.  But, I'm also sure that Ma
still has some very independent thoughts of his own.  He is human, and
human nature didn't succumb to the USSR's ban on independent thought,
did it?  Even if Ma isn't saying everything he thinks right now (and
I'm not saying he isn't, just that it's possible), eventually everyone
says what he really thinks.

If Ma really believes communism is the wave of the future, it's
because he's been taught that by his own government and he agrees with
them. But if he actually thinks our form of gov't is better, he'll
eventually say so. IMHO, they did it in the Soviet Union, and they'll
eventually do it in China, too.

Like I said before, maybe I'm too optimistic, but so was Reagan. :)

**I know, I know..."You're no Ronald Reagan, Mr. Hammes."**

John Hammes

On Thu, 11 Dec 1997 kewcomm1 at ix.netcom.com wrote:

:-)On 12/11/97 01:21:51 you wrote:
:-)  .......but you give us insight on what one Chinese man thinks.
:-)>John Hammes
:-)    Ma, by his various postings, is not "one Chinese man," he's a
:-)propagandist for his Communist Chinese gov't which allows no
:-)independent thought process.
:-)   If one wants such a singular man, I would suggest reading
:-)the words of such Chinese Patriots as Wei Jingsheng, China's
:-)Andrei Sakhorov. Soon after completing a 14-year prison term for
:-)protesting the actions of the reigning communist dictatorship, Wei
:-)was returned to captivity just weeks after meeting at a Beijing
:-)hotel in February 1994 with U.S. Assistant Secretary of State
:-)John Shattuck. The Chinese minister of foreign affairs accused
:-)Shattuck of interfering in "the internal affairs of China," and
:-)Wei was sentenced to another 14 years of prison, on the Orwellian
:-)charge of pursuing "illegal activities under the cloak of legality."
:-)It was a calculated insult to American officials and a clear message
:-)of "mind your own business."
:-)  I for one, will listen to the "independent" voice of Wei, not
:-)the state sponsored words of their collectivist "organ," Ma.

You don't have to read anything Ma posts ever again.  Really Ken, you
don't!  I don't mind. :)  But I'll say one thing...I'd love to have Ma
visit the US sometime...although I don't know if that's possible, if
you know what I mean.

Again, John
   "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not any simpler."

   "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age 18.

   "Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new."

   "I never think of the future. It comes soon enough."

   "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that
   can be counted counts."

....Albert Einstein

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