Mao, Pol Pot and Social Engineers

PapaPaul febboy at IX.NETCOM.COM
Tue Nov 11 00:22:39 MST 1997

At 05:53 PM 11/10/97 -0600, Gary Seibel wrote:
>>        You're absolutely right.  The Japanese laboratories
>>        in Harbin performed unspeakable, criminal experiments
>>        on Chinese (AND on American prisoners of war).  The
>>        Japanese who performed these experiments -- and the
>>        American government officials who gave them freedom --
>>        should have been put on trial.  I would like to
>>        point out, Mr. Ma, this is ANOTHER example of the evil
>>        that governments do.  NO government can be trusted.
>>        A government becomes more evil when it grows bigger
>>        and bigger.  Another reason for opposing the
>>        establishment of a World Government.
>>        Regards, PapaPaul
>Well if there was a world government then there wouldn't be people of other
>nationalities to perform atrocities on.  But then, that never stopped the
>Gary Seibel

        Don't discriminate against the
        other countries and governments of the world and give all
        the credit to big bad ole USA.  Governments across the globe
        need not go across their borders to find        victims.  I
        recommend the following article, which shows that more
        people have been killed by their own governments than all
        those who have died in wars, especially by governments
        consumed by utopian motives.

        -- PP

>                 Inside Track On World News
>          By International Syndicated Columnist & Broadcaster
>            Eric Margolis <emargolis at>
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> Eric Margolis  26 June 1997
> Mass-murderer Pol Pot was run to ground this week in the
> remote jungle of northern Cambodia.  Leader of the notorious
> Khmer Rouge, Pot ordered the killing of at least one million
> `class enemies' in Cambodia's Killing Fields.
> Pot is a monster, and deserves to be buried alive, like many
> of his victims.  This marxist madman reminds us of an
> amazing, but little-know fact: more people have been killed
> in the 20th Century by their own governments than by all
> wars combined.
> About 25 million soldiers died in World Wars I and II.
> Another 12 million were killed in this century's other wars
> and revolutions, a total of 37 million dead.
> *Under Lenin and Stalin, the Soviet government became the
> greatest mass-murderer in history.  Lenin's collectivization
> and purges of 1921-1922 caused 4 million deaths.  In 1932,
> Stalin ordered Ukraine starved to enforce collectivization
> and crush Ukrainian nationalism.  At least 8 million
> Ukrainians were murdered. Others resorted to cannibalism. .
> >From 1917 to Stalin's death in 1953,  the Soviet Union,
> worshipped by leftists around the world as the acme of human
> political accomplishment, shot, tortured, beat, froze or
> starved to death at least 40 million of its people.  Some
> Russian historians claim the true figure is even higher. In
> an ugly spasm of deja-vu, Russian troops slaughtered 80,000
> Chechen civilians over the past two years.
> *In China. Great Helmsman Mao Zedong had 2 million `class
> enemies' shot when the communists took power. Another
> million Tibetans and Turkestani Muslims were `liquidated.'
> from 1950-1975.  During Mao's crazy Great Leap Forward, in
> which China's farmers were collectivized en masse, an
> estimated 30 million or more people starved to death.
> Another two million are said to have been killed in Mao's
> Cultural Revolution.Total: 35 million dead.
> *Hitler was responsible for the deaths of 12 million
> civilians, half of them Jews.  The Nazis exterminated people
> because of race; the communists because of class or
> nationality.  Hitler killed with gas; Stalin with bullets, cold, and
> Some two million German civilians were killed in 1945, and
> at least 200,000 died in communist concentration camps from
> 1945-1953.  The victorious Allies handed back 2 million anti-
> communist Soviet citizens to Stalin in 1945: he had half
> shot, and the rest sent to Arctic death camps.
> *During World War I, the Ottoman Empire slaughtered or
> starved up to 2 million Armenians, the first great genocide
> of the new century.
> *In the early 1960's, 600,000 ethnic Chinese were massacred
> in Indonesia by government-encouraged mobs and soldiers..
> *During the Marcos era in the Philippines, 75,000 Muslims
> were massacred by government paramilitary gangs. .
> *In 1971, Pakistani troops killed tens of thousands of Bengalis in former

> East Pakistan.  Indian security forces
> and police have massacred great numbers of tribesmen in
> border regions, and many civilians in Kashmir and Punjab.
> *In the 1980's, Ethiopia's marxist regime denied seeds to
> `capitalist' farmers, causing a million people to starve to
> death.
> *A half-century of tribal massacres between Hutu and Tutsi
> culminated in the recent slaughter of half a million Tutsi
> civilians by Rwanda's Hutu government.
> *Serbia's nazi-nationalist regime conducted the massacre of
> 200,000 Muslim civilians in Bosnia.
> There are many other examples. But just the figures cited
> above amount to almost 100 million deaths this century -
> deaths that were not caused by war or revolution, but by the
> conscious decision of tyrants, politicians, or bureaucrats
> to murder great numbers of their own people for reasons of
> ideology, religion, race or land.
> Compare: 100 million people murdered by governments this
> century; 75% by communist regimes - to  about 38 million
> killed in all wars and conflicts.
> So let Cambodia's by now almost forgotten Pol Pot remind us
> that big governments, particularly those driven by ideology
> and idealism, have been a greater menace than big armies,
> heavy armaments, - even nuclear weapons.
> In fact, Pol Pot's  Khmer Rouge  killed five times more civilians than
> atomic bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
> copyright  eric margolis 1997

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