FWD: National ID by Stealth Legislation
febboy at IX.NETCOM.COM
Mon Oct 20 15:21:09 MDT 1997
Thanks for ruining my day.
As I read your story, I kept having flash backs to all
of those movies in the 1940's: German Police thugs
demanding "your documents, please" every time you walked
across the street. It's coming. When electronic cash
takes over, the government will be able to monitor your
every move unless you learn to live as a feral human in
the wild. These are the times that call forth heroes.
At 05:15 PM 10/19/97 -0700, A. C. Szul wrote:
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>Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 01:24:56 +0000
>To: deva777 at dedot.com
>From: Watchman <watchman at pacifier.com>
>From: Patricia Neill Subject: National ID by Stealth Legislation
>Below is an edited, annotated message I received last week about our new
>national ID card. I've spent several hours researching the bills and
>laws noted here. Though some of the information isn't.
>1. We now have a national ID card. It's a done thing. Congress inflicted
>this upon us late in the 104th Congress, apparently without debate or
>2. The original language for the card was contained in HR 2202, the
>Immigration Control and Responsibility Act of 1996. Near as I can tell,
>these provisions were eventually folded into HR 3610, the
>3. As it learned to do after the Hillary health care fiasco, Congress
>took a quiet little back door to the national ID. It put it in the form
>of state drivers licenses.
>3. The law requires all states to begin requiring verified SS numbers
>drivers licenses after October 1, 2000. These licenses must also have
>other "security features" te be determined, in part, by 2006, no
>governmental agency in the U.S. will be allowed to accept any other form
>of ID. You will not be able to get a passport or utilize any other
>government service at any level without one of these.
>4. In a recent AP story, there was talk of a plan to forbid anyone from
>boarding an airplane without one of these cards. You can expect stores,
>banks and other businesses to begin requiring them.
>5. The post accompanying this one claims you will also need one of these
>cards to get a job, and that you will not be able to get a job until a
>verification system okays you. (This was in the original)
>HB 1243 (Companion bill - SB 5264 )
>(In the State of Washington)
>"Every person applying for an original, renewal, or duplicate driver's
>license shall submit to an electronic finger scan as provided in Section
>2 of this Act".
>What I believe it will do is enslave our citizens in a numbering system
>that will track every move, every purchase, every facet of our daily
>lives. This is called a de-facto National Identity card.
>The minimum requirements listed in HB 1243 include that it be in effect
>by Feb. 1, 1998; a Central Issuance System; Digital Imaging system
>(photograph and signature); one and two dimensional bar cod
>Please note that is the 'minimum' requirements. How big a step is it to
>include all your financial records, employment history, medical records,
>personal (marriage, children, divorce, bankruptcy, etc.)
>The Congressional directive mentioned in HB 1243: NEW SECTION. Section
>1., originated in HR 2202, Sec. 118 - Immigration Control and Financial
>Responsibility Act of 1996 (Engrossed Senate Amendment)
>This bill is the result of a directive from Congress. It is passed in
>Public Law 104-208 sec 656. The text comes from HR 2202 sec 118. PL
>104-208 was passed Sept 30 1996. It is titled the Omnibus A.
>Any comments re above? Positive vs. negative aspects?
>IMO, positive: may help avoid terrorist acts on airplanes, since you
>need one of these goodies to get on -- though w/ tech advances, one
>never knows the ability to dup; negative: as mentioned above, gov't can
>literally follow your tracks, what you do, where you go etc....
>But, why would the gov't want to (even can??!) track EVERYONE? Just in
>case one turns out to be a bad apple? Waste of money? Or a good
>investment? Is this any worse than MAC/ATM or credit cards?
>What about the psychological impact? Behavioral? Mass population
>Someone find ONE AP/Reuters story on this? Hmmmm.....
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