FDR - Liar Of The Century?!?

John A. Quayle blueoval at SGI.NET
Fri Jan 21 00:22:11 MST 2000

At 09:07 AM 1/18/00 PST, Ray Thomas wrote:
>We have said many times that Clinton is the worst president we've ever
had, but we're wrong. As far as I can see, FDR still has that dubious title.

        Choosing betwixt the two, Ray, is a monumental task. The sad fact of the
matter is that there are many, many WWII-era seniors, who still revere FDR
and if you try to tell them the truth, you can literally see the purple
rising up their necks. Thank *GOD* that my mom is not one of them!

John Q.

>People have criticized Clinton for wanting to be thought of as FDR-like. But
>he's right. He IS a lot like FDR. FDR literally CREATED the welfare state.
>He and his cronies found out that you could make people dependent upon you
>for their very daily bread and they would vote for you in perpetuity.
>He learned that if you put the government in permanent debt, you could use
>that debt as a permanent demand upon the taxpayer for more taxes BECAUSE of
>the debt, not mentioning that it would be simple to get out of debt: spend
>less than you take in.
>He is the architect of all the ills we now suffer. Clinton wants to be like
>him? The only difference between FDR and WJC is that FDR originated the
>theft. All Clinton can do it perpetuate it and make it more efficient.
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>hegemony rolling inexorably towards One Word Governance/Dominance.
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>Journalism and Truth
>John Swinton, the former chief of staff of the "New York Times," called by
>his peers, "the dean of his profession", was asked in 1953 to give a toast
>before the New York Press Club. He responded with the following statement:
>"There is no such thing, at this date of the world's history, in America, as
>an independent press. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who
>dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand
>that it would never appear in print.
>"I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am
>connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things,
>and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be
>out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions
>to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation
>would be gone.
>"The business of the Journalist is to destroy truth; To lie outright; To
>pervert; To vilify; To fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country
>and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it and what folly
>is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals for rich
>men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and
>we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and or lives are all the property
>of other men.  We are intellectual prostitutes."
>I've been writing about the intent to take control of your children for some
>time now. And others are just now beginning to realize it, although they
>haven't made the connection to the "child protector scam." Here's part of a
>blurb for a new book by Regenery, "Hell to Pay," about Hillary Clinton's
>quest for power:
>"...you'll discover Hillary's 'vision' for American family life in the 21st
>century ... a 'brave new world' in which mothers and fathers take a backseat
>to an army of teachers, pediatricians and social workers who will take over
>the main task of child rearing. In Hillary's America, social workers will
>even be allowed to make 'preemptive visits' -- like  Gestapo agents in Nazi
>Germany -- into the private homes of parents earmarked as 'at risk' for 'bad
>parenting.' The determination of what constitutes 'bad parenting' will, of
>course, be made by the most politically correct of government bureaucrats."
>In other words, a bureaucrat gets to "define" you as being a "bad parent" on
>a whim and then the child protector Gestapo can enter your home at will,
>without a warrant, based on that whim. This is a major part of "Hillary's
>                    -From "Random Shots" in the "Forced Altruism List
>All Children Are Crazy!
>"During the 1973 International Education Seminar, Harvard psychiatrist
>Chester M. Pierce, speaking as an expert in public education, said: "Every
>child in America entering school at the age of five is mentally ill because
>he comes to school with certain allegiances to our founding fathers, toward
>our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural
>being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It's
>up to you as teachers to make all these sick children well by creating the
>international child of the future."
>                    Chester M. Pierce, Harvard psychiatrist,
>                    speaking as an expert in public education at the
>                    1973 International Education Seminar
>Pushing Racism for Profit
>"Every time you pick up the news paper or turn on the evening news someone
>is telling us how bad race relations are in this country. You've got the
>politicians pushing racism to remain elected, and the public and private
>sector groups that have been making a damn good living off of racism since
>the 60's, taking every opportunity to point out our differences and
>shortcomings. With all these detractors about, it is amazing how good our
>race relations really are."
>                    -Clarlie Hall in "Detractors Aplenty" on the
>"Editorialize web site:
>                      http://editorialize.com/race_relations.htm
>Australian Gun Results
>"Australia enacted tough gun laws that took away the right of ordinary
>citizens to own or have in their possession a handgun, rifle, or pump action
>shotguns.  How much safer are they?  Quoting from Hal Thomas' article:
>"According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, the number of armed
>robberies went up 39 percent last year and assaults involving guns rose 28
>percent. Gun murders increased 19 percent. In addition to laws so strict
>that Olympic shooters must leave the country in order to practice, an
>expensive gun buy-back program resulted in 640,000 guns being turned in to
>authorities. The cost of the programs averaged $57 per Australian. Still,
>gun crime is up. Prior to the new gun laws, crime in Australia was in
>                    From "Editorialize" Web Site:
>>From: "John A. Quayle" <blueoval at SGI.NET>
>>Reply-To: Open discussion of current events <RUSHTALK at hermes.csd.net>
>>To: RUSHTALK at hermes.csd.net
>>Subject: FDR - Liar Of The Century?!?
>>Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:54:45 -0500
>>From: Eagle Forum <eagle at eagleforum.org>
>>Subject: Y2K and the Man of the Century Y2K and the Man of the Century
>>January 12, 2000
>>by: Phyllis Schlafly
>>         Most Americans have concluded that the media hype about Y2K
>>breakdown and terrorism dangers were mostly that, just hype, probably for
>>the purpose of maintaining media ratings since the Monica soap opera is no
>>longer available for titillation. But the media's extolling of Franklin D.
>>Roosevelt as the man or president of the century, or at least as runner-up,
>>was hype of the same magnitude.
>>         We had many a great and noble man in the 20th century, but FDR was
>>not one
>>of them. The myth of his greatness could be swallowed only by those
>>ignorant of history.
>>         FDR was fundamentally what Ronald Reagan was accused of being: an
>>FDR's best talent was reading scripts that were written for him by others
>>and, indeed, he read them very well on radio.
>>         FDR employed a corps of ghostwriters of whom the principal ones
>>Raymond Moley, Tommy Corcoran and Robert Sherwood. Many men use
>>ghostwriters, but one cannot imagine Jefferson or Madison, Lincoln or
>>Wilson, pretending to be an orator while reciting another man's words.
>>         Ronald Reagan had been an actor, true, but in public life he
>>believed what he was saying. The evidence is massive that FDR didn't
>>believe the oratory for which he is so praised.
>>         The puff pieces about FDR that were prominent in the end-of-the-
>>editions of magazines such as Time and television talk shows have
>>propagated the myth that he led America out of the Great Depression by
>>putting people back to work.
>>         The truth is that, in 1938 after six years of FDR's New Deal,
>>America had
>>11,800,000 unemployed, more than were unemployed when he was elected in
>>1932. Unemployment remained high until millions were drafted into the army,
>>and the economy didn't improve for the average American until World War II.
>>         Roosevelt's most famous lie was his pledge, "Mothers and fathers,
>>I have
>>said this before, but I shall say it again and again and again. Your boys
>>are not going to be sent into any foreign wars." His own speechwriter,
>>Robert Sherwood, admitted later, "I burn inwardly whenever I think of those
>>words 'again and again and again.'"
>>         That eloquent phrasemaker, Clare Booth Luce, had it exactly right
>>when, in
>>her Keynote Address at the 1944 Republican National Convention, she charged
>>that he had "lied us into war." FDR's own Secretary of War Henry Stimson
>>described how this was done when he confided to his diary the essence of a
>>White House meeting on November 25, 1941: "The question was how we should
>>maneuver them [the Japanese] into firing the first shot without allowing
>>too much danger to ourselves."
>>         When the popular author John T. Flynn started to expose
>>duplicities, FDR wrote a personal letter declaring that Flynn "should be
>>barred from the columns of any presentable daily paper, monthly magazine,
>>or national quarterly." Fortunately, FDR didn't succeed in his vindictive
>>attempt to silence Flynn.
>>         John T.  Flynn's classic best-seller of 1948, "The Roosevelt
>>Myth," was
>>republished last year in a 50th Anniversary edition. It's well worth
>>reading today as an antidote to revisionist history.
>>         "The Roosevelt Myth" details the two great crimes committed by
>>Franklin D.
>>  Roosevelt against the nation that honored and trusted him.  One was
>>delivering all the gains of World War II to Stalin, the man whom FDR called
>>his friend, "Uncle Joe."
>>         With the Communist spy Alger Hiss at his side at Yalta, President
>>Roosevelt betrayed our allies in Eastern Europe and China and promised
>>Stalin three votes in the United Nations General Assembly plus the right to
>>name the number-two UN official.  Those promises were carried out by Hiss a
>>few months later when he served as first Secretary General of the United
>>         FDR's second crime was his series of performances and devices by
>>which he
>>twisted the fundamental nature of our Republic. FDR launched Harry Hopkins'
>>"tax and tax, spend and spend, elect and elect" political strategy that has
>>been with us ever since, all the time increasing the power of government to
>>spend our money, regulate our lives, and send our sons off to war.
>>         The liberal media obviously couldn't bring themselves to admit
>>that the
>>real man of the century was Ronald Reagan. He was responsible for the
>>greatest achievement in the history of warfare: victory over the giant Evil
>>Empire and the liberation of the Captive Nations.
>>         The decisive battle took place on October 13, 1986 at Reykjavik,
>>where Mikhail Gorbachev tried to strike a deal that would have propped up
>>the giant Soviet empire for decades into the future and given Gorbachev the
>>means of competing militarily with the United States indefinitely.
>>Gorbachev demanded that Reagan abandon all plans to build a U.S.
>>anti-missile defense.
>>         When Reagan rejected Gorbachev's deal, the media reported
>>Reykjavik was a
>>failure and that the failure was Reagan's fault. Time's cover screamed
>>"Sunk by Star Wars."
>>         Reagan's personal courage and foresight in rejecting Gorbachev's
>>treaty at
>>Reykjavik started the collapse of the Evil Empire. As Margaret Thatcher
>>summed it up, Reagan won the Cold War "without firing a shot." That's our
>>man of the century.
>>Phyllis Schlafly column 1-12-00
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