Barf: Bush Clinton Bush Clinton

John A. Quayle blueoval57 at VERIZON.NET
Wed Oct 3 21:58:37 MDT 2007


         C'mon folks, say it with me: "No more retreads.......no more 
retreads......no more retreads!"

John Q.
(Out chanting in the hinterlands)


At 04:10 PM 10/2/2007, Carl Spitzer wrote:

>Bush, Clinton, Bush ... Clinton?
>
>Sep 28, 2007 10:11 AM     (43 mins ago)
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>By NANCY BENAC, AP
>
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>WASHINGTON (Map, News) - Forty percent of Americans have never lived
>when there wasn't a Bush or a Clinton in the White House. Anyone got a
>problem with that?
>
>With Hillary Rodham Clinton hoping to tack another four or eight
>"Clinton" years on to the Bush-Clinton-Bush presidential pattern that
>already has held sway for two decades, talk of Bush-Clinton fatigue is
>increasingly cropping up in the national political debate.
>
>The dominance of the two families in U.S. presidential politics is
>unprecedented. (The closest comparisons are the father-son presidencies
>of John Adams and John Quincy Adams, whose single terms were separated
>by 24 years, and the presidencies of fifth cousins Theodore Roosevelt
>and Franklin Roosevelt, whose collective 20 years as president were
>separated by a quarter-century.)
>
>"We now have a younger generation and middle-age generation who are
>going to think about national politics through the Bush-Clinton prism,"
>said Princeton University political historian Julian Zelizer, 37, whose
>first chance to vote for president was 1988, the year the first
>President Bush was elected. And as for the question of fatigue, Zelizer
>added: "It's not just that we've heard their names a lot, but we've had
>a lot of problems with their names."
>
>
>And now, if Hillary Clinton were to be elected and re-elected, the
>nation could go 28 years in a row with the same two families governing
>the country. Add the elder Bush's terms as vice president, and that
>would be 36 years straight with a Bush or Clinton in the White House.
>
>Already, for 116 million Americans, there has never been a time when
>there wasn't a Bush or Clinton in the White House, either as president
>or vice president.
>
>Does a nation of 303 million people really have only two families
>qualified to run the show?
>
>David Gergen, director of Harvard University's Center for Public
>Leadership and an adviser to presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Clinton,
>said there does seem to be concern about the possibility of giving "the
>two dynasties" another four or eight years.
>
>"I think we would be fundamentally healthier if we broadened the zone of
>candidates who could make it to the top," he said.
>
>Historically, politics has been open to newcomers who rise up to reflect
>the grass-roots sentiment of the country, Gergen said.
>
>That's still possible, he said, "but it's harder than it used to be,
>especially because it's so hard to raise money" for expensive national
>campaigns.
>
>The Clintons and Bushes, he said, have built up strong "brand"
>recognition for their names - just as the Kennedys did in an age of
>promise cut short by assassination - making it harder for newcomers to
>compete.
>
>But sometimes, people just want to try something new.
>
>An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll taken over the summer found that fully
>one-quarter of all Americans said that the prospect of having at least
>24 straight years of a President Clinton or Bush would be a
>consideration in their vote for president in 2008.
>
>Even among Democrats, 17 percent said it would be a consideration. That
>compared with a third of all Republicans.
>
>The nation has changed dramatically since the first Bush claimed the
>Oval Office in 1988: Then, the Soviet Union was exploring the notion of
>perestroika, a public Internet was a promise waiting to be fulfilled,
>gasoline cost about $1 a gallon and Hillary Clinton was an associate
>still hoping to make partner at the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock, Ark.
>
>Clinton, now a two-term senator at age 59, has been asked about the
>long-standing Bush-Clinton grip on the Oval Office at two Democratic
>debates, and has a two-part response. She dumps on the Bush part of the
>historical equation and praises the Clinton component.
>
>Asked in the CNN/YouTube debate in July whether adding another President
>Clinton to the Bush-Clinton-Bush sequence would bring about real change,
>Clinton had a ready comeback.
>
>"Well, I think it is a problem that Bush was elected in 2000," she
>offered. "I actually thought somebody else was elected in that
>election."
>
>When the question came up again in this week's debate in New Hampshire,
>she told the audience, "I thought Bill was a pretty good president."
>
>She hastened to add that she's running on her own, and "I'm going to the
>people on my own."
>
>Gergen said any fatigue factor Clinton faces is "overwhelmed by the
>positive nostalgia for Bill Clinton among Democrats."
>
>The thought is seconded by Todd Gitlin, a professor at Columbia
>University's School of Journalism who has written a new book about
>national politics. He said that while some people are bothered by the
>dominance of the two families, "right now there is one massive fatigue
>in America and that is with George Bush. No other fatigue comes close."
>
>But even if the issue is not a problem for Clinton, Gitlin said: "Is it
>a problem in some large sense that we seem to be alternating dynasties?
>Yes, I think democracy should be more expansive."
>
>How long could this dynastic dynamic play itself out?
>
>"Keep an eye on their children," Gergen quips.
>
>And, there's always presidential brother Jeb Bush, the former governor
>of Florida. His oldest son, George P. Bush, is considered likely to
>carry the family's political tradition into the next generation.
>
>A Bush-Bush ticket for 2012? By George!
>
>---Associated Press writer Stephen Ohlemacher contributed to this
>report.
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