dap1 at BELLSOUTH.NET
Fri Oct 15 16:21:15 MDT 2010
On 10/15/2010 10:34 AM, Tom Matiska wrote:
> I think you have the chronology of liquor taxes and prohibition
> incorrect. President Washington had to struggle with the issue
> of liquor taxes on two fronts. He operated a large distillery and he
> had to deal with the armed Whiskey Rebellion of 1794.
The internal combustion engine was not yet invented. There was no liquor
tax during prohibition, obviously. Prior to prohibition and after Henry
Ford's invention, there was no money in moonshine. It was done then
partly because "papa" did it that way and partly a matter of convenience
for family use since distribution of commercial liquor was limited.
> The connection between booze and racing is also historic. The nearby
> "Camptown Races" ( Stephan Foster 1850) started with a few stiff
> drinks after Sunday services and ended up with drunk farmers betting
> on everything from plow horses to whatever. Now when I go to the
> county fairgrounds their descendants are doing tractor pulls. Booze,
> rednecks, and racing are a combination that always was and always will
My point was that prior to prohibition, racing was pretty much limited
to the animal kingdom.
> --- On *Fri, 10/15/10, Dennis Putnam /<dap1 at BELLSOUTH.NET>/* wrote:
> From: Dennis Putnam <dap1 at BELLSOUTH.NET>
> Subject: Re: [RUSHTALK] Major question
> To: RUSHTALK at CSDCO.COM
> Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 4:35 AM
> I disagree vehemently. First stock car racing started long before
> NASCAR. There was no money in it, just bragging rights. Moonshine
> runners had money and an incentive to produce fast cars. Without that
> combination, there would be no stock car racing. It was after the
> creation of such technology that the penchant of men to race each
> developed. You have the cart in front of the horse. Without
> (taxation started after repeal of the 18th amendment) stock car racing
> would not have developed for years, if ever because there was no
> incentive to build them.
> On 10/14/2010 6:38 PM, Tom Matiska wrote:
> > No. The history of stock car racing might be a little less
> > colorful, but the itch to race preceded Mr Fords cars and it would
> > have evolved anyway. Also, the 'moonshine running" that influenced
> > early stock car racing was more about post-prohibition tax
> > If I was going to make the point I'd claim liquor taxes(not
> > prohibition) were a greater influence.
> > Tom
> > --- On *Thu, 10/14/10, Steven Laib /<stevenlaib at SBCGLOBAL.NET
> > From: Steven Laib <stevenlaib at SBCGLOBAL.NET
> > Subject: [RUSHTALK] Major question
> > To: RUSHTALK at CSDCO.COM
> > Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010, 6:18 PM
> > One of our local talkers said this evening that if it wasn't for
> > prohibition during the 1920's we wouldn't have NASCAR.
> > OK, it isn't an earthshaking question, but does anyone agree?
> > SDL
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