[Rushtalk] Thoughts

Paf Dvorak notmyname at thatswaytoomuch.info
Wed Aug 21 17:46:57 MDT 2013


At 04:17 PM 8/21/2013 -0700, Stephen A. Frye wrote:
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>You are obviously uninformed about encryption.  It is most 
>definitely NOT a drop in the bucket.

True.
http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/pgp-faq/pgp-faq-security-questions.html

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>From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com [mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] 
>On Behalf Of Tom Matiska
>Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:34 AM
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>I suspect the Feds anger with the encryption folks was for show. 
>They have to be laughing.   The computing power required is a drop 
>in the bucket(pun intended) for the Utah spy center.
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>Most importantly.... why encrypt political speech here?    1st 
>doesn't protect my right to whisper in the alley, and the 2nd 
>doesn't protect my right to hide my guns.  Use your rights properly 
>or lose them.
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>Tom
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>From: Dennis Putnam <<mailto:dap1 at bellsouth.net>dap1 at bellsouth.net>
>To: <mailto:rushtalk at csdco.com>rushtalk at csdco.com
>Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:14 PM
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>Not sure what you are saying but if you mean to imply that the NSA 
>can decrypt PGP you are mostly incorrect. While it is possible to 
>decrypt PGP, the compute power and time needed makes it impractical 
>to do routinely let alone on every encrypted email across the 
>internet. When Phil Zimmerman released the algorithm, the Feds went 
>after him with a vengeance because of the extreme measures needed to 
>decrypt it. It meant the feds could not practically control 
>encryption any more. However, Phil was smart in that he distributed 
>it only domestically so it did not come under any of the federal 
>encryption laws and their attempts to shut him down failed (not for 
>lack of trying). Now the genie is out of the bottle and the Feds can 
>do nothing to stop it, at least domestically. The best they can do 
>is get a subpoena and confiscate your private key from your computer 
>and somehow force you to reveal your pass phrase.
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>Now, once you decrypt the message on your side, the sender is at 
>your mercy if someone should hack your computer and you saved it 
>decrypted or you should forward it unencrypted. But that burden is 
>on you and not a function of anything the feds can do.
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>On 8/21/2013 11:42 AM, Tom Matiska wrote:
>I believe our "security"(spy) agencies were in on the ground floor 
>of the encryption business. They probably laugh whenever someone 
>buys one of their products.   As far as being targeted as for being 
>conservative that horse is out of the barn too.  Every click we make 
>online paints that picture. When I googled a replacement gasket for 
>mom's old pressure cooker flags had to go up.    On the slim chance 
>you're not a watch list just use encryption, and be on the mother of 
>all watch lists.
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>Most importantly, I don't write anything you don't want them to 
>read.  Once they get you to whisper in the alley you've 
>surrendered.   Is that really free speech anymore?     Let them hear 
>it... in their face.... loud and clear...
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>Tom
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>From: Dennis Putnam <mailto:dap1 at bellsouth.net><dap1 at bellsouth.net>
>To: Open discussion of current events 
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>Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:06 AM
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>Given the scope of what we now know about NSA spying and that we can
>easily surmise there is lots more we don't know, I am curious why more
>people are not using strong encryption for their email such as GPG.
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>It also occurs to me, that since conservatives are being specifically
>targeted, perhaps this list should adopt encryption. There exists a 3rd
>party package that is supposed to work with mailman that will do
>precisely that.
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>Just thinking out loud.
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