[Rushtalk] Smart meters in the news

Paf Dvorak notmyname at thatswaytoomuch.info
Wed Feb 13 04:47:06 MST 2013

At 10:58 PM 2/12/2013 -0500, John A. Quayle wrote:
>At 06:58 PM 2/12/2013, Paf Dvorak wrote:
>>At 01:38 PM 2/12/2013 -0500, John A. Quayle wrote:
>>>At 12:14 PM 2/12/2013, Paf Dvorak wrote:
>>>>At 12:43 AM 2/12/2013 -0500, John A. Quayle wrote:
>>>>>At 04:39 PM 2/11/2013, Paf Dvorak wrote:
>>>>>>At 02:14 PM 2/11/2013 -0500, John A. Quayle wrote:
>>>>>>>At 06:15 AM 2/11/2013, Paf Dvorak wrote:
>>>>>>>>At 05:49 AM 2/11/2013 -0500, John A. Quayle wrote:
>>>>>>>>>         Oh, but there's NOTHING to worry about, is there?!?
>>>>>>>>This is a problem caused by and continued by government.
>>>>>>>>I'm sure everything will be better if we 
>>>>>>>>all just vote the bastards out.
>>>>>>>>It's bound to get better, don't you think?
>>>>>>>         Tell me how doing NOTHING changes anything................
>>>>>>It's not "nothing". Doing nothing means 
>>>>>>sheepingly voting as you're told to do.
>>>>>         I don't think so...........
>>>>>>It's a protest against the graft and greed 
>>>>>>of government and voting shows a 
>>>>>>willingness to use force against your 
>>>>>>fellows to accomplish your social and political (and personal) goals.
>>>>>         The ruling class is REALLY paying 
>>>>> attention to your protestations every time 
>>>>> you sit on your hands and do NOTHING, aren't they?
>>>>Yes, it's not giving consent.
>>>>Not surprisingly, they pretend to ignore 
>>>>those who refuse to go along to get along. 
>>>>But you better believe they're quite aware of 
>>>>the growing movement to refuse to consent!
>>>         They aren't looking for ANYBODY's 
>>> consent! That's your first error in 
>>> judgement. They don't care whether you approve or don't!
>>More proof for my POV than for yours, John.
>         Not at all. You have no plan to get rid 
> of the vermin. How else will you other than by the ballot box or by firearms?

Neither of those options will make us free. And 
it's "the ballot box or by the cartridge box". 
And neither will the jury box. That would have 
worked, and it still could make a dent, but have 
only one more box-option: The soap box.

There was a couple sentences in that 
Strike-The-Root thing I just recently posted: 
"Walk away and take your spoke out of the wheel 
and take it with you, and encourage others to do 
the same. The wheel cannot continue to spin 
without spokes. Disconnect from the violence. 
Unplug. The hub is useless when it is 
disconnected from the rest of the wheel."  In 
short, <http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/lefevre2.html>abstain from beans:

Abstain From Beans

by Robert LeFevre


In ancient Athens, those who admired the Stoic 
philosophy of individualism took as their motto: 
"Abstain from Beans." The phrase had a precise 
reference. It meant: don't vote. Balloting in 
Athens occurred by dropping various colored beans into a receptacle.

To vote is to express a preference. There is 
nothing implicitly evil in choosing. All of us in 
the ordinary course of our daily lives vote for 
or against dozens of products and services. When 
we vote for (buy) any good or service, it follows 
that by salutary neglect we vote against the 
goods or services we do not choose to buy. The 
great merit of market place choosing is that no 
one is bound by any other person's selection. I 
may choose Brand X. But this cannot prevent you from choosing Brand Y.

When we place voting into the framework of 
politics, however, a major change occurs. When we 
express a preference politically, we do so 
precisely because we intend to bind others to our 
will. Political voting is the legal method we 
have adopted and extolled for obtaining 
monopolies of power. Political voting is nothing 
more than the assumption that might makes right. 
There is a presumption that any decision wanted 
by the majority of those expressing a preference 
must be desirable, and the inference even goes so 
far as to presume that anyone who differs from a 
majority view is wrong or possibly immoral.

But history shows repeatedly the madness of 
crowds and the irrationality of majorities. The 
only conceivable merit relating to majority rule 
lies in the fact that if we obtain monopoly 
decisions by this process, we will coerce fewer 
persons than if we permit the minority to coerce 
the majority. But implicit in all political 
voting is the necessity to coerce some so that 
all are controlled. The direction taken by the 
control is academic. Control as a monopoly in the hands of the state is basic.

In times such as these, it is incumbent upon free 
men to reexamine their most cherished, 
long-established beliefs. There is only one truly 
moral position for an honest person to take. He 
must refrain from coercing his fellows. This 
means that he should refuse to participate in the 
process by means of which some men obtain power 
over others. If you value your right to life, 
liberty, and property, then clearly there is 
every reason to refrain from participating in a 
process that is calculated to remove the life, 
liberty, or property from any other person. 
Voting is the method for obtaining legal power to coerce others.

Master, which is the greatest commandment in the law?
Jesus said to him: Thou shalt love the Lord thy 
God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind.
This is the greatest and the first commandment.
And the second is like to this: Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
On these two commandments dependeth the whole law and the prophets.

Matthew 22:36-40 : Douay-Rheims Bible

Robert LeFevre (1911–1986) was a businessman and 
radio personality, and the founder of the Freedom 
School in Colorado Springs, Colorado, whose 
purpose was to educate people from all walks of 
life in the libertarian intellectual tradition. 
Before it closed in 1968, it had featured among 
its rotating faculty Rose Wilder Lane, Milton 
Friedman, F.A. Harper, Frank Chodorov, Leonard 
Read, Gordon Tullock, G. Warren Nutter, Bruno 
Leoni, James J. Martin, and even Ludwig von 
Mises. His library and papers are housed at the 
<http://mises.org>Mises Institute. February 18, 
2009 Reprinted from <http://www.voluntaryist.com>Voluntaryist.com

Paf Dvorak

<http://thatswaytoomuch.info/>notmyname at thatswaytoomuch.info  
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