[Rushtalk] Micro-chipping Humans Is On The Way!

Paf Dvorak notmyname at thatswaytoomuch.info
Sat Feb 16 22:35:05 MST 2013

At 10:04 PM 2/16/2013 -0500, John A. Quayle wrote:
>At 09:59 PM 2/15/2013, Paf Dvorak wrote:
>>At 09:46 PM 2/15/2013 -0500, John A. Quayle wrote:
>>>         H.R. 3200 of 2009 had language about 
>>> the RFID chip but was not passed into law. 
>>> The language for that was removed in HR 3590. 
>>> This is not an issue as far as Obamacare goes 
>>> but it sure is on the table and as we both 
>>> know, it is just a matter of time till the 
>>> fit it into another bill to get it through.
>>That's what I said.
>         Not exactly...........

Really? Did you miss the part about incrementalism?

>>>At 04:32 PM 2/15/2013, Paf Dvorak wrote:
>>>>At 11:52 PM 2/14/2013 -0800, Tom Matiska wrote:
>>>>>Snopes says false... but it is an interesting read....
>>>>>To summarize for the research impaired: no 
>>>>>such language was in the final bill..... but 
>>>>>initial and reconciliation versions of HR 
>>>>>4872 came close.... but that language didn't 
>>>>>require the chip, but allowed for a registry 
>>>>>to be created for the purpose of tracking 
>>>>>implants such as pacemakers and hip 
>>>>>replacements (hmmm.... is there an implant 
>>>>>show loophole that allows unregistered 
>>>>>sales???).... the micro implant shown in 
>>>>>many version of this story is actually a 
>>>>>glucose measuring device(which any good 
>>>>>conspiracy buff will tell you is just the 
>>>>>cover story to conceal its true purpose)
>>>>Oh well...Snopes! Everyone knows Snopes is 
>>>>part of the Vast Liberal Conspiracy® designed 
>>>>to trick We The People into believing stuff that's not true and vice versa.
>>>>Anyway, here's the 
>>>>Version. (It's a .pdf) For the software 
>>>>impaired, once the pdf is open, (on a windoze 
>>>>PC) hold down the Ctrl key and hit the f, then type in some search terms.
>>>>Follows the stuff they took out if the final bill:
>>>>What is telling though, and something we 
>>>>should all be aware of: The stuff they took 
>>>>out was originally in there! They still want 
>>>>to chip us and other crap to give them power 
>>>>over us! And if you're over the age of 50 
>>>>you've likely seen tyrannical incrementalism 
>>>>used on us already. It's what they;ve been 
>>>>doing and are doing again with guns. They've 
>>>>been chipping away at ALL of our liberties 
>>>>since the nation was founded! They even did 
>>>>it when they created the present 
>>>>constitution! They were just gonna go and 
>>>>tweak it a little bit...iron out some 
>>>>wrinkles they missed the first time. Our 
>>>>foretyrants didn't go planning on having a 
>>>>constitutional convention, they forced one on 
>>>>the nation. They will do as much as we allow them to do.
>>>>Thanks John for being vigilant.
>>>>Subtitle C­National Medical Device Registry
>>>>(a) REGISTRY.­
>>>>(1) IN GENERAL.­Section 519 of the Federal 
>>>>Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C. 360i) is amended­
>>>>(A) by redesignating subsection (g) as sub5 section (h); and
>>>>(B) by inserting after subsection (f) the following:
>>>>‘‘National Medical Device Registry” (g)(1) 
>>>>The Secretary shall establish a national 
>>>>medical device registry (in this subsection 
>>>>referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate 
>>>>analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes 
>>>>data on each device that­(A) is or has been 
>>>>used in or on a patient; and (B) is­ (i) a 
>>>>class III device; or (ii) a class II device 
>>>>that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.
>>>>(2) In developing the registry, the Secretary 
>>>>shall, in consultation with the Commissioner 
>>>>of Food and Drugs, the Administrator of the 
>>>>Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, the 
>>>>head of the Office of the National 
>>>>Coordinator for Health Information 
>>>>Technology, and the Secretary of Veterans 
>>>>Affairs, determine the best methods for­
>>>>(A) including in the registry, in a manner 
>>>>consistent with subsection (f), appropriate 
>>>>information to identify each device described 
>>>>in paragraph (1) by type, model, and serial number or other unique identifier;
>>>>(B) validating methods for analyzing patient 
>>>>safety and outcomes data from multiple 
>>>>sources and for linking such data with the 
>>>>information included in the registry as 
>>>>described in subparagraph (A), including, to the extent feasible, use of­
>>>>(i) data provided to the Secretary under 
>>>>other provisions of this chapter; and (ii) 
>>>>information from public and private sources identified under paragraph (3);
>>>>(C) integrating the activities described in this subsection with­
>>>>(i) activities under paragraph (3) of section 
>>>>505(k) (relating to active postmarket risk 
>>>>identification); (ii) activities under 
>>>>paragraph (4) of section 505(k) (relating to 
>>>>advanced analysis of drug safety data); and 
>>>>‘(iii) other postmarket device surveillance 
>>>>activities of the Secretary authorized by 
>>>>this chapter; and (B) is­(i) a class III 
>>>>device; or (ii) a class II device that is 
>>>>implantable, life-supporting, or 
>>>>life-sustaining. (2) In developing the 
>>>>registry, the Secretary shall, in 
>>>>consultation with the Commissioner of Food 
>>>>and Drugs, the Administrator of the Centers 
>>>>for Medicare & Medicaid Services, the head of 
>>>>the Office of the National Coordinator for 
>>>>Health Information Technology, and the 
>>>>Secretary of Veterans Affairs, determine the 
>>>>best methods for­(A) including in the 
>>>>registry, in a manner consistent with 
>>>>subsection (f), appropriate information to 
>>>>identify each device described in paragraph 
>>>>(1) by type, model, and serial number or 
>>>>other unique identifier; (B) validating 
>>>>methods for analyzing patient safety and 
>>>>outcomes data from multiple sources and for 
>>>>linking such data with the information 
>>>>included in the registry as described in 
>>>>subparagraph (A), including, to the extent 
>>>>feasible, use of­(i) data provided to the 
>>>>Secretary under other provisions of this 
>>>>chapter; and (ii) information from public and 
>>>>private sources identified under paragraph 
>>>>(3); (C) integrating the activities described 
>>>>in this subsection with­(i) activities under 
>>>>paragraph (3) of section 505(k) (relating to 
>>>>active postmarket risk identification); (ii) 
>>>>activities under paragraph (4) of section 
>>>>505(k) (relating to advanced analysis of drug 
>>>>safety data); and (iii) other postmarket 
>>>>device surveillance activities of the 
>>>>Secretary authorized by this chapter; and (D) 
>>>>providing public access to the data and 
>>>>analysis collected or developed through the 
>>>>registry in a manner and form that protects 
>>>>patient privacy and proprietary information 
>>>>and is comprehensive, useful, and not 
>>>>misleading to patients, physicians, and 
>>>>scientists. ‘(3)(A) To facilitate analyses of 
>>>>postmarket safety and patient outcomes for 
>>>>devices described in paragraph (1), the 
>>>>Secretary shall, in collaboration with 
>>>>public, academic, and private entities, 
>>>>develop methods to­(i) obtain access to 
>>>>disparate sources of patient safety and 
>>>>outcomes data, including­(I) Federal 
>>>>health-related electronic data (such as data 
>>>>from the Medicare program under title XVIII 
>>>>of the Social Security Act or from the health 
>>>>systems of the Department of Veterans 
>>>>Affairs); (II) private sector health-related 
>>>>electronic data (such as pharmaceutical 
>>>>purchase data and health insurance claims 
>>>>data); and (III) other data as the Secretary 
>>>>deems necessary to permit postmarket 
>>>>assessment of device safety and 
>>>>effectiveness; and (ii) link data obtained 
>>>>under clause (i) with information in the 
>>>>registry. (B) In this paragraph, the term 
>>>>‘data’ refers to information respecting a 
>>>>device described in paragraph (1), including 
>>>>claims data, patient survey data, 
>>>>standardized analytic files that allow for 
>>>>the pooling and analysis of data from 
>>>>disparate data environments, electronic 
>>>>health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary.
>>>>(4) Not later than 36 months after the date 
>>>>of the enactment of this subsection, the 
>>>>Secretary shall promulgate regulations for 
>>>>establishment and operation of the registry under paragraph (1).
>>>>(A)(i) in the case of devices that are 
>>>>described in paragraph (1) and sold on or 
>>>>after the date of the enactment of this 
>>>>subsection, shall require manufacturers of 
>>>>such devices to submit information to the 
>>>>registry, including, for each such device, 
>>>>the type, model, and serial number or, if 
>>>>required under subsection (f), other unique 
>>>>device identifier; and (ii) in the case of 
>>>>devices that are described in paragraph (1) 
>>>>and sold before such date, may require 
>>>>manufacturers of such devices to submit such 
>>>>information to the registry, if deemed 
>>>>necessary by the Secretary to protect the public health;
>>>>(B) shall establish procedures­(i) to permit 
>>>>linkage of information submitted pursuant to 
>>>>subparagraph (A) with patient safety and 
>>>>outcomes data obtained under paragraph (3); 
>>>>and (ii) to permit analyses of linked data;
>>>>(C) may require device manufacturers to 
>>>>submit such other information as is necessary 
>>>>to facilitate postmarket assessments of 
>>>>device safety and effectiveness and notification of device risks;
>>>>(D) shall establish requirements for regular 
>>>>and timely reports to the Secretary, which 
>>>>shall be included in the registry, concerning 
>>>>adverse event trends, adverse event patterns, 
>>>>incidence and prevalence of adverse events, 
>>>>and other information the Secretary 
>>>>determines appropriate, which may include 
>>>>data on comparative safety and outcomes trends; and
>>>>(E) shall establish procedures to permit 
>>>>public access to the information in the 
>>>>registry in a manner and form that protects 
>>>>patient privacy and proprietary information 
>>>>and is comprehensive, useful, and not 
>>>>misleading to patients, physicians, and scientists.
>>>>(5) To carry out this subsection, there are 
>>>>authorized to be appropriated such sums as 
>>>>may be necessary for fiscal years 2010 and 2011.’’.
>>>>(2) EFFECTIVE DATE.­The Secretary of Health 
>>>>and Human Services shall establish and begin 
>>>>implementation of the registry under section 
>>>>519(g) of the Federal Food, Drug, and 
>>>>Cosmetic Act, as added by paragraph (1), by 
>>>>not later than the date that is 36 months 
>>>>after the date of the enactment of this Act, 
>>>>without regard to whether or not final 
>>>>regulations to establish and operate the 
>>>>registry have been promulgated by such date.
>>>>303(f)(1)(B)(ii) of the Federal Food, Drug, 
>>>>and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C. 333(f)(1)(B)(ii)) 
>>>>is amended by striking ‘‘519(g)’’ and inserting ‘‘519(h)’’.
>>>>(1) RECOMMENDATIONS.­The HIT Policy Committee 
>>>>established under section 3002 of the Public 
>>>>Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 300jj–12) shall 
>>>>recommend to the head of the Office of the 
>>>>National Coordinator for Health Information 
>>>>Technology standards, implementation 
>>>>specifications, and certification criteria 
>>>>for the electronic exchange and use in 
>>>>certified electronic health records of a 
>>>>unique device identifier for each device 
>>>>described in section 519(g)(1) of the Federal 
>>>>Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, as added by subsection (a).
>>>>CERTIFICATION CRITERIA.­The Secretary of the 
>>>>Health Human Services, acting through the 
>>>>head of the Office of the National 
>>>>Coordinator for Health Information 
>>>>Technology, shall adopt standards, 
>>>>implementation specifications, and 
>>>>certification criteria for the electronic 
>>>>exchange and use in certified electronic 
>>>>health records of a unique device identifier 
>>>>for each device described in paragraph (1), 
>>>>if such an identifier is required by section 
>>>>519(f) of the Federal Food, Drug, and 
>>>>Cosmetic Act U.S.C. 360i(f)) for the device.
>>>>In its final version ­ the actual 974-page 
>>>>Obamacare law ­ even that “National Medical 
>>>>Device Registry” section is deleted.
>>>>In re incrementalism and the constitution:
>>>>Lest we've not brushed up on history in some time,
>>>>"The Constitutional Convention (also known as 
>>>>the Philadelphia Convention, the Federal 
>>>>Convention, or the Grand Convention at 
>>>>Philadelphia) took place from May 25 to 
>>>>September 17, 1787, in Philadelphia, 
>>>>Pennsylvania, to address problems in 
>>>>governing the United States of America, which 
>>>>had been operating under the Articles of 
>>>>Confederation following independence from 
>>>>Great Britain. Although the Convention was 
>>>>intended to revise the Articles of 
>>>>Confederation, the intention from the outset 
>>>>of many of its proponents, chief among them 
>>>>James Madison and Alexander Hamilton, was to 
>>>>create a new government rather than fix the 
>>>>existing one. The delegates elected George 
>>>>Washington to preside over the Convention. 
>>>>The result of the Convention was the United 
>>>>States Constitution, placing the Convention 
>>>>among the most significant events in the history of the United States."
>>>>Kinda makes that most important document seem 
>>>>like something of a whim, and just as binding.
>>>>>- On Thu, 2/14/13, John A. Quayle <blueoval57 at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>From: John A. Quayle <blueoval57 at verizon.net>
>>>>>Subject: [Rushtalk] Micro-chipping Humans Is On The Way!
>>>>>To: "Rushtalk" <rushtalk at csdco.com>
>>>>>Date: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 10:42 PM
>>>>>Micro Chip Implant Coming March 23, 2013
>>>>>The New Health Care (Obama care) law H.R. 
>>>>>3590 Also HR 4872 requires all US citizens to have the RFID implanted
>>>>>This evil plan is being launched by America. 
>>>>>its a micro chip injected in your hand. it 
>>>>>will contain all your personal data heath 
>>>>>and bank accounts etc. its also a GPS device 
>>>>>being monitored. they can deactivate it at 
>>>>>any time if they find you suspicious or not 
>>>>>loyal to their government or go against them 
>>>>>or their system and you will lose everything 
>>>>>you ever had. soon this device will be made 
>>>>>common just like they did credit cards, 
>>>>>turning paper money into digital money. 
>>>>>means nothing is physically in your hand. it 
>>>>>will be made a must for every citizen with 
>>>>>time according to their plan and then they 
>>>>>will spread it outside America so they can 
>>>>>monitor and control as many people as they 
>>>>>can and turn them into slaves with their digital technologies.
>>>>>this device is the future or slavery
>>>>>BEWARE of this EVIL DEVICE. if you don't 
>>>>>believe me do your own research before you come to argue or debate.
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