[Rushtalk] Smart Meters

Dennis Putnam dap1 at bellsouth.net
Sat Jan 26 15:50:53 MST 2013


That was not the premise of the article. The only different between a
smart meter and what they can do now is that they don't have to send
someone to my house to shut off power.


On 1/26/2013 5:11 PM, John A. Quayle wrote:
> At 05:02 PM 1/26/2013, Dennis Putnam wrote:
>> Wong. All they did was cut power.
>
>          */It _DOES_ affect appliances when the power is shut off.
> They won't run!
>
>
> /*
>> On 1/26/2013 4:23 PM, John A. Quayle wrote:
>>> At 07:51 AM 1/26/2013, Dennis Putnam wrote:
>>>> Why are people perpetuating this myth? The smart meters can do
>>>> nothing but monitor usage and in some cases shut off all power.
>>>> They can otherwise not do anything to effect thermostats or any
>>>> other appliance.
>>>
>>>          */They did in Baltimore in July, 2011. A few people died
>>> from the heat............
>>>
>>>
>>> /*
>>>> On 1/25/2013 11:07 PM, John A. Quayle wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   *Fascist City Arrests Two Moms for Opposing 'Smart Meters' in Homes*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> posted on January 25, 2013
>>>>> <http://godfatherpolitics.com/9154/city-arrests-two-moms-for-opposing-smart-meters-in-homes/>
>>>>> by Tad Cronn <http://godfatherpolitics.com/author/tadcronn/>
>>>>> 362
>>>>> <http://godfatherpolitics.com/9154/city-arrests-two-moms-for-opposing-smart-meters-in-homes/#disqus_thread>
>>>>>
>>>>> UN
>>>>> <http://godfatherpolitics.com/9154/city-arrests-two-moms-for-opposing-smart-meters-in-homes/>
>>>>>  
>>>>> <http://godfatherpolitics.com/9154/city-arrests-two-moms-for-opposing-smart-meters-in-homes/>
>>>>> <http://godfatherpolitics.com/9154/city-arrests-two-moms-for-opposing-smart-meters-in-homes/>Two
>>>>> Naperville, Illinois, mothers found out what happens to Americans
>>>>> who think they can determine for themselves what is in their best
>>>>> interests.
>>>>>
>>>>> Malia "Kim" Bendis and Jennifer Stahl were arrested when the city
>>>>> sent around armed police officers to escort power company
>>>>> technicians to install "smart meters" on private homes where
>>>>> owners had previously refused to allow the devices.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both Stahl and Bendis are leaders of a group called Naperville
>>>>> Smart Meter Awareness which opposes the smart meters for, as the
>>>>> Chicago Tribune put it, "health, security and privacy" concerns.
>>>>> The group is suing the city over the installations which have
>>>>> already occurred in over 57,000 homes.
>>>>>
>>>>> The city says the wireless meters will make electricity more
>>>>> reliable, more efficient and cheaper. Its installation project is
>>>>> 99 percent complete, according to city officials, except for a few
>>>>> holdouts like Stahl and Bendis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Smart meters have been installed in homes across the nation under
>>>>> the same pretexts. The truth about smart meters is less innocent
>>>>> than government at all levels has let on. The devices were
>>>>> conceived and designed as part of the broader environmental
>>>>> program that has been adopted under Agenda 21.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are several health concerns about the wireless meters,
>>>>> including exposure to radiation and electromagnetic fields. Some
>>>>> people are apparently sensitive enough that they can hear a
>>>>> high-pitched buzz or hum from the meters. Health problems that
>>>>> have been documented after installation of the meters have
>>>>> included headaches, insomnia, increased irritability, inability to
>>>>> concentrate, memory problems, dizziness, fatigue, vision problems,
>>>>> nose bleeds, nausea, heart arrhythmia and a whole list of other
>>>>> ailments that some doctors have linked to interference with the
>>>>> human body's nervous system.
>>>>>
>>>>> As bad as all that is, however, the most urgent reason to oppose
>>>>> smart meters is because they are fascism in a box. The touted
>>>>> efficiency and reliability increases of the meters arise because
>>>>> the meters patch a home into a computerized network that allows
>>>>> faceless technocrats at some faraway power facility to determine
>>>>> if you are using too much electricity and control the utilities
>>>>> and even appliances in your home. With smart meters, the utility
>>>>> company can turn down or cut off the flow of electricity to your
>>>>> house, adjust your thermostat without your knowledge and monitor
>>>>> your usage in real time. If you have modern computerized
>>>>> appliances, they can control your washing machine, dryer,
>>>>> dishwasher, refrigerator, even your coffeemaker.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stahl said utility workers ignored a posted sign refusing to allow
>>>>> a smart meter, cut a lock on her gate and forced entry into her
>>>>> backyard. When she stood in front of her meter and refused to
>>>>> move, the police stepped in and arrested her. Bendis declined to
>>>>> speak to reporters on advice of her attorney.
>>>>>
>>>>> "It was forced on my house today," Stahl said. "It was really a
>>>>> violation. I violated something, but I've been violated too, so I
>>>>> guess we're now in a society of violating one another."
>>>>>
>>>>> She said her group represents other homeowners who were not
>>>>> allowed to refuse the smart meter installation.
>>>>>
>>>>> The city offers a wired version of the meters but forces
>>>>> recipients to pay a $70 fee for installation and an additional $25
>>>>> per month.
>>>>>
>>>>> City Manager Doug Krieger defended the arrests, saying that police
>>>>> were simply protecting utility workers at homes where owners had
>>>>> resisted previous attempts at installation. He said, "The city has
>>>>> always had and maintains the right to access our equipment, and
>>>>> today we were simply exercising that right."
>>>>>
>>>>> Protecting Americans' rights, on the other hand, apparently isn't
>>>>> in the plan.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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