[Rushtalk] Smart Meters

Dennis Putnam dap1 at bellsouth.net
Sun Jan 27 07:31:05 MST 2013


OK, so explain the difference between what they can do with a smart
meter and a dumb meter other than not sending a technician to your house.

On 1/26/2013 7:22 PM, John A. Quayle wrote:
> At 06:27 PM 1/26/2013, Stephen A. Frye wrote:
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>> Back pedaling.  They cannot selectively shut off an appliance.
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>          */They can certainly shut 'em _ALL_ off! They don't have to
> be selective!
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>> *From:* rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com [mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com
>> <mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com>] *On Behalf Of *John A. Quayle
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:12 PM
>> *To:* Rushtalk Discussion List; Rushtalk Discussion List
>> *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] Smart Meters
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>> At 05:02 PM 1/26/2013, Dennis Putnam wrote:
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>> Wong. All they did was cut power.
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>>          */It _DOES_ affect appliances when the power is shut off.
>> They won't run!
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>> /*On 1/26/2013 4:23 PM, John A. Quayle wrote:
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>> At 07:51 AM 1/26/2013, Dennis Putnam wrote:
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>> Why are people perpetuating this myth? The smart meters can do
>> nothing but monitor usage and in some cases shut off all power. They
>> can otherwise not do anything to effect thermostats or any other
>> appliance.
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>>          */They did in Baltimore in July, 2011. A few people died
>> from the heat............
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>> /*On 1/25/2013 11:07 PM, John A. Quayle wrote:
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>>   *Fascist City Arrests Two Moms for Opposing 'Smart Meters' in Homes*
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>> posted on January 25, 2013
>> <http://godfatherpolitics.com/9154/city-arrests-two-moms-for-opposing-smart-meters-in-homes/>
>> by Tad Cronn <http://godfatherpolitics.com/author/tadcronn/>
>> 362
>> <http://godfatherpolitics.com/9154/city-arrests-two-moms-for-opposing-smart-meters-in-homes/#disqus_thread>
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>> UN
>> <http://godfatherpolitics.com/9154/city-arrests-two-moms-for-opposing-smart-meters-in-homes/>
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>> <http://godfatherpolitics.com/9154/city-arrests-two-moms-for-opposing-smart-meters-in-homes/>
>> Two Naperville, Illinois, mothers found out what happens to Americans
>> who think they can determine for themselves what is in their best
>> interests.
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>> Malia "Kim" Bendis and Jennifer Stahl were arrested when the city
>> sent around armed police officers to escort power company technicians
>> to install "smart meters" on private homes where owners had
>> previously refused to allow the devices.
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>> Both Stahl and Bendis are leaders of a group called Naperville Smart
>> Meter Awareness which opposes the smart meters for, as the Chicago
>> Tribune put it, "health, security and privacy" concerns. The group is
>> suing the city over the installations which have already occurred in
>> over 57,000 homes.
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>> The city says the wireless meters will make electricity more
>> reliable, more efficient and cheaper. Its installation project is 99
>> percent complete, according to city officials, except for a few
>> holdouts like Stahl and Bendis.
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>> Smart meters have been installed in homes across the nation under the
>> same pretexts. The truth about smart meters is less innocent than
>> government at all levels has let on. The devices were conceived and
>> designed as part of the broader environmental program that has been
>> adopted under Agenda 21.
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>> There are several health concerns about the wireless meters,
>> including exposure to radiation and electromagnetic fields. Some
>> people are apparently sensitive enough that they can hear a
>> high-pitched buzz or hum from the meters. Health problems that have
>> been documented after installation of the meters have included
>> headaches, insomnia, increased irritability, inability to
>> concentrate, memory problems, dizziness, fatigue, vision problems,
>> nose bleeds, nausea, heart arrhythmia and a whole list of other
>> ailments that some doctors have linked to interference with the human
>> body's nervous system.
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>> As bad as all that is, however, the most urgent reason to oppose
>> smart meters is because they are fascism in a box. The touted
>> efficiency and reliability increases of the meters arise because the
>> meters patch a home into a computerized network that allows faceless
>> technocrats at some faraway power facility to determine if you are
>> using too much electricity and control the utilities and even
>> appliances in your home. With smart meters, the utility company can
>> turn down or cut off the flow of electricity to your house, adjust
>> your thermostat without your knowledge and monitor your usage in real
>> time. If you have modern computerized appliances, they can control
>> your washing machine, dryer, dishwasher, refrigerator, even your
>> coffeemaker.
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>> Stahl said utility workers ignored a posted sign refusing to allow a
>> smart meter, cut a lock on her gate and forced entry into her
>> backyard. When she stood in front of her meter and refused to move,
>> the police stepped in and arrested her. Bendis declined to speak to
>> reporters on advice of her attorney.
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>> "It was forced on my house today," Stahl said. "It was really a
>> violation. I violated something, but I've been violated too, so I
>> guess we're now in a society of violating one another."
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>> She said her group represents other homeowners who were not allowed
>> to refuse the smart meter installation.
>>
>> The city offers a wired version of the meters but forces recipients
>> to pay a $70 fee for installation and an additional $25 per month.
>>
>> City Manager Doug Krieger defended the arrests, saying that police
>> were simply protecting utility workers at homes where owners had
>> resisted previous attempts at installation. He said, "The city has
>> always had and maintains the right to access our equipment, and today
>> we were simply exercising that right."
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>> Protecting Americans' rights, on the other hand, apparently isn't in
>> the plan.
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