[Rushtalk] Smart Meters

Stephen A. Frye s.frye at verizon.net
Tue Jan 29 16:51:59 MST 2013

I think you're right.  I just got a report of my electricity usage (comes on
my bill every month), and it shows different billing rates for different
times.  Interesting, not only do "they" know I was running the washing
machine, that smart chip inside told "them" exactly what I was washing.  I
have a full report of how many batches of socks and undies, how many blue
jeans, how often we change the bedding, and towels, well, way too many
towels.  When "they" correlate with the water company reports from the smart
faucets in each bathroom, "they" have decided we may be taking too many
showers.  And I won't even go down the path of the girls' batches of


And the dryer.  Yes, the dryer.  Well, when "they" did an analysis of dryer
usage, and lack of iron usage, "they" recommend turning down the dryer
temperature and using the iron more often instead of relying on the drying
cycle to get the wrinkles out.  And "they" are pretty upset that we don't
iron the sheets.


Then the toaster.  I guess it has a smart chip, too.  The report tells me I
would do better to change the settings.  Toasting wheat bread on the bagel
setting is just begging for trouble.


And the blender, holy cow.  Our girls like to make smoothies, and the report
is showing that they should just slightly adjust the ratio of fruit to milk.


The refrigerator is pretty happy, but the report clearly indicates I could
be more efficient about the number of times I open and close the door.  I'll
work on that.


And my wife's hair curler and blow dryer.  Well, the report on that goes on
forever.  "They" have a plethora of recommendations on these, but "they"
will have to deal with my wife on those.  I say "let fools rush in where
even angels fear to tread."


"They" also want us to review and adjust the number of times we open and
close the garage door in one day.  The girls like to use the garage door
because it has the remote/encoded opener, and they don't have to carry (and
lose) a key.  But of course with the smart chip in the garage door opener,
"they" know our secret code and "they" know exactly how often we change it -
and how well we change it.  "They" tell me they are reviewing all of our
in-home security procedures.  My question is 'why can't "they" read the
smart chip in my car, know when I am coming up the driveway, and open the
garage door for me?'


The oven.  My cooking.  "They" are recommending several different cookbooks,
as not only does the smart chip monitor usage, it can tell what I am cooking
and how I do it, and let me tell you, it ain't pretty, and "they" know it.


And our bottled water cooler.  Well, "they" try to remind me that it is far
more cost effective to use the 5-gallon bottles.  I just wish the smart chip
in there would lift that bottle up for me.  It's amazing when you drop a
five gallon bottle how fast water can come out of it before you can pick it
up.  Can the smart chip monitor that?  Can it help me mop up the spilled
water?  Maybe "they" will come over and help me mop it up.



From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com [mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] On
Behalf Of John A. Quayle
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Smart Meters


At 09:31 AM 1/27/2013, Dennis Putnam wrote:

OK, so explain the difference between what they can do with a smart meter
and a dumb meter other than not sending a technician to your house.

         They can see which of your appliances is on and when (they all have
chips in them nowadays!).........

On 1/26/2013 7:22 PM, John A. Quayle wrote:

At 06:27 PM 1/26/2013, Stephen A. Frye wrote:

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Back pedaling.  They cannot selectively shut off an appliance.

         They can certainly shut 'em ALL off! They don't have to be

From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com [ mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] On
Behalf Of John A. Quayle
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Smart Meters
At 05:02 PM 1/26/2013, Dennis Putnam wrote:

Wong. All they did was cut power.

         It DOES affect appliances when the power is shut off. They won't

On 1/26/2013 4:23 PM, John A. Quayle wrote:

At 07:51 AM 1/26/2013, Dennis Putnam wrote:

Why are people perpetuating this myth? The smart meters can do nothing but
monitor usage and in some cases shut off all power. They can otherwise not
do anything to effect thermostats or any other appliance.

         They did in Baltimore in July, 2011. A few people died from the

On 1/25/2013 11:07 PM, John A. Quayle wrote:


Fascist City Arrests Two Moms for Opposing 'Smart Meters' in Homes

posted on January 25, 2013
meters-in-homes/>  by Tad Cronn

meters-in-homes/> UN
meters-in-homes/>   Two Naperville, Illinois, mothers found out what happens
to Americans who think they can determine for themselves what is in their
best interests.

Malia "Kim" Bendis and Jennifer Stahl were arrested when the city sent
around armed police officers to escort power company technicians to install
"smart meters" on private homes where owners had previously refused to allow
the devices.

Both Stahl and Bendis are leaders of a group called Naperville Smart Meter
Awareness which opposes the smart meters for, as the Chicago Tribune put it,
"health, security and privacy" concerns. The group is suing the city over
the installations which have already occurred in over 57,000 homes.

The city says the wireless meters will make electricity more reliable, more
efficient and cheaper. Its installation project is 99 percent complete,
according to city officials, except for a few holdouts like Stahl and

Smart meters have been installed in homes across the nation under the same
pretexts. The truth about smart meters is less innocent than government at
all levels has let on. The devices were conceived and designed as part of
the broader environmental program that has been adopted under Agenda 21.

There are several health concerns about the wireless meters, including
exposure to radiation and electromagnetic fields. Some people are apparently
sensitive enough that they can hear a high-pitched buzz or hum from the
meters. Health problems that have been documented after installation of the
meters have included headaches, insomnia, increased irritability, inability
to concentrate, memory problems, dizziness, fatigue, vision problems, nose
bleeds, nausea, heart arrhythmia and a whole list of other ailments that
some doctors have linked to interference with the human body's nervous

As bad as all that is, however, the most urgent reason to oppose smart
meters is because they are fascism in a box. The touted efficiency and
reliability increases of the meters arise because the meters patch a home
into a computerized network that allows faceless technocrats at some faraway
power facility to determine if you are using too much electricity and
control the utilities and even appliances in your home. With smart meters,
the utility company can turn down or cut off the flow of electricity to your
house, adjust your thermostat without your knowledge and monitor your usage
in real time. If you have modern computerized appliances, they can control
your washing machine, dryer, dishwasher, refrigerator, even your

Stahl said utility workers ignored a posted sign refusing to allow a smart
meter, cut a lock on her gate and forced entry into her backyard. When she
stood in front of her meter and refused to move, the police stepped in and
arrested her. Bendis declined to speak to reporters on advice of her

"It was forced on my house today," Stahl said. "It was really a violation. I
violated something, but I've been violated too, so I guess we're now in a
society of violating one another."

She said her group represents other homeowners who were not allowed to
refuse the smart meter installation.

The city offers a wired version of the meters but forces recipients to pay a
$70 fee for installation and an additional $25 per month.

City Manager Doug Krieger defended the arrests, saying that police were
simply protecting utility workers at homes where owners had resisted
previous attempts at installation. He said, "The city has always had and
maintains the right to access our equipment, and today we were simply
exercising that right."

Protecting Americans' rights, on the other hand, apparently isn't in the



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