[Rushtalk] Happy Death-by-Government Day!

JD northgate76 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 5 14:25:18 MDT 2013


Well, I remember people hanging off of helicopter skids during the fall of
Saigon, which is now Ho Chi Minh City, so I would chalk Vietnam up as a
loss.


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:02 PM, John A. Quayle <blueoval57 at verizon.net>wrote:

>  At 10:42 AM 6/5/2013, JD wrote:
>
> Well, we lost Nam and maintained our freedom somehow. And McNamara later
> admitted the domino theory
>
>
> **        ** *Well, much of the stuff we heard from the media was wrong
> about winning/losing. Long-timers on this list surely will remember former
> members, David Gonzalez and Michael Spearing, both of whom flew planes in
> 'Nam, according to what they told me off-list. We actually won much of the
> war - including the Tet Offensive, which was gleefully reported as a huge
> loss by Walter Cronkite.
>
> JAQ
>
>
>
> *
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:34 PM, John A. Quayle <blueoval57 at verizon.net> wrote:
>           This essay couldn't be more WRONG! Our liberties WERE preserved
> by soldiers fighting in WWI and WWII, Korea and Viet Nam. We find ourselves
> losing those freedoms almost by the second these days, but there's no
> culpability on the part of servicemen & women. Rather, it's voter
> stupidity, apathy, and general citizen complacency that has put us in that
> compromised position.
>
>
>
>
>  At 03:11 PM 5/27/2013, Paf Dvorak wrote:
>
>
> *Monday, May 27, 2013*
>
>
>
>  http://blog.kentforliberty.com/2013/05/happy-death-by-government-day.html
>
>
>
> *Happy Death-by-Government Day *
>
>
>
> Or, should it be called "Dead Government-paid Murderer Day"?
>
> I know that many people who were in the employ of the US government truly
> believed they were doing the right thing. I know that a lot of people
> actually fall for the "they fought for our freedom" propaganda, and have a
> powerful desire to honor the dead for that reason. I know I come off as a
> heartless monster for seeing it differently.
>
> But, if you are in the military you are only fighting for one "cause": the
> power (and wealth) of those who run the mafia called the US government. You
> are their pawn; their tool. That you get angry at that revelation is proof
> of how effectively you have been brainwashed.
>
> Your scars, your death, and your murders don't protect one single act of
> liberty. No one is free to write even one anti-State phrase on the
> "government's invention" because of your sacrifice. No one is able to carry
> a fully functional M16 onto a flight from Texas to DC because of your
> "service". No one is allowed to drive across the country without having to
> possess a plastic national ID card because of those you killed. No one is
> allowed to buy morphine for their cancer-stricken grandmother,
> over-the-counter in Walmart, because you were blown to bits in Iraq. Your
> lost leg, shattered and bleeding in the hot sun beside some nameless dirt
> road in Afghanistan, doesn't buy the liberty to do one single thing. Your
> dead "brothers" didn't accomplish anything that was worth losing their life
> for The State.
>
> I realize it is hard to accept this when you have been told the lie all
> your life, and when you want so badly for all those who have died in the
> past to have not died in vain (or worse, in service of evil).
>
> I'm sorry.
>
> Paf Dvorak
>
>  notmyname at thatswaytoomuch.info <http://thatswaytoomuch.info/>
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