[Rushtalk] It's Just *NOT* There!

JD northgate76 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 16 18:04:24 MDT 2013


Can't cross examine an affidavit can you?  That's why it's hearsay.
Besides, anyone can "swear" anything in an affidavit.

JD


On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:48 PM, John A. Quayle <blueoval57 at verizon.net>wrote:

>  At 05:32 AM 3/16/2013, JD wrote:
>
> Hearsay within hearsay.
>
>
> **        ** *No sir........there's a sworn affidavit, now........stuff's
> REAL, dewd!
>
>
>
> *
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 5:27 AM, John A. Quayle <blueoval57 at verizon.net >
> wrote:
>
> *WorldNetDaily Exclusive
>
> *
> *Hawaii official now swears: No Obama birth certificate
>
> *
> *Signs affidavit declaring long-form, hospital-generated document absent*
>
> Published: 01/24/2011 at 8:48 PM
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> Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit
> swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that no long-form,
> hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii
> and that neither Queens Medical Center nor Kapi’olani Medical Center in
> Honolulu had any record of Obama having been born in their medical
> facilities.
>
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> Notary seal on Timothy Adams’ affidavit
>
> Adams was employed at the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division<http://www.honoluluelections.us/about_us>from May 2008 through September 2008.
>
> His position was senior elections clerk, overseeing a group of 50 to 60
> employees responsible for verifying the identity of voters at the Absentee
> Ballot Office. It was in this capacity that Adams became aware of the
> search for Obama’s birth-certificate records.
>
>  See the movie Obama does not want you to see: Own the DVD that probes
> this unprecedented presidential-eligibility mystery!<http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104814>
>
> “During the course of my employment,” Adams swears in the affidavit
> (viewable in full as part 1 <http://www.wnd.com/files/110123adams1.pdf>and part
> 2 <http://www.wnd.com/files/110123adams2.pdf>), “I became aware that many
> requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections
> Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of
> Health <http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/254401/#> from around the country to
> obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama’s long-form, hospital-generated
> birth certificate.”
>
> As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told
> him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health.
>
> “Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division
> told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated
> birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of
> Health,” Adams’ affidavit reads, “and there was no record that any such
> document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any
> other branch or department of the Hawaii government.”
>
>  [image: []]
> Tim Adams, former senior elections clerk for Honolulu
>
> In a recorded telephone interview, Adams told WND that it was common
> knowledge among election officials where he worked that no long-form,
> hospital-generated birth certificate could be found at the Hawaii
> Department of Health.
>
> “My supervisor came and told me, ‘Of course, there’s no birth certificate.
> What? You stupid,’” Adams said. “She usually spoke well, but in saying this
> she reverted to a Hawaiian dialect. I really didn’t know how to respond to
> that. She said it and just walked off. She was quite a powerful lady.”
>
> Moreover, Adams was told that neither Queens Memorial Hospital nor
> Kapi’olani Medical Center had any records of Obama’s birth at their medical
> facilities: “Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections
> Division further told me on multiple occasions that Hawaii State government
> officials had made inquires about Sen. Obama’s birth records<http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/254401/#>to officials at Queens Medical Center and Kapi’olani Medical Center in
> Honolulu and that neither hospital had any record of Senator Obama having
> been born there, even though Governor Abercrombie is now asserting and
> various Hawaii government officials continue<http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/254401/#>to assert Barack Obama Jr. was born at Kapi’olani Medical Center on Aug. 4,
> 1961.”
>
> “We called the two hospitals in Honolulu: Queens and Kapi’olani,” Adams
> stressed. “Neither of them have any records that Barack Obama was born
> there.”
>
> In 2009, WND documented<http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103306>that Obama and his supporters had first claimed he was born at Queens
> Medical Center in Honolulu, before the story changed to Kapi’olani Medical
> Center in Honolulu.
>
> After WND’s report on the two conflicting hospitals<http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103465>,
> online news sites including the United Press International and Snopes.com
> scrubbed their websites to eliminate any reference to Queens Medical
> Center, substituting instead that Obama was born at Kapi’olani Medical
> Center without explaining the discrepancy or the correction.
>  [image: []]
> Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie
>
> In 2010, then-candidate for governor Neil Abercrombie was involved in an
> Obama birth controversy<http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103503>when he read a letter at a Kapi’olani Medical Center centennial dinner in
> Honolulu that supposedly was authored by President Obama, claiming
> Kapi’olani as his birth hospital.
>
>  As WND reported<http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103633>,
> the letter read by Abercrombie and initially displayed on the Kapi’olani
> website turned out to be a computer-created likeness of a letter using HTML
> code, the building blocks of Internet websites, not an actual paper letter.
>
> The White House has still not confirmed it wrote or sent the letter.
>
> Moreover, Adams claims, the Hawaii government was engaged in a cover-up
> designed to tell the American public through the Obama-supporting
> mainstream media that Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no long-form,
> hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama could be found on record in
> the Hawaii Department of Health.
>
> In the affidavit Adams swears, “During the course of my employment, I came
> to understand that for political reasons, various officials in the
> government of Hawaii, including then-Governor Linda Lingle and various
> officials of the Hawaii Department of Health, including Dr. Chiyome Fukino,
> the director of the Hawaii Department of Health, were making
> representations that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no
> government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for
> Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his
> birth.”
>
> Adams further swears his supervisors told him to quit asking about Obama’s
> birth records.
>
> “During the course of my employment,” Adams states in the affidavit, “I
> was told by senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections
> Division to stop inquiring about Senator Obama’s Hawaii birth records, even
> though it was common knowledge among my fellow employees that no Hawaii
> long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama.”
>
> “I can go get my long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate,” Adams
> told WND. “And so I don’t understand, this whole controversy should have
> been settled three or four years ago in about five minutes.”
>
> Nor does Adams feel the short-form Certification of Live Birth is
> authoritative documentation proving that Obama was born in Hawaii.
>
> “My basic assumption is that he wasn’t born there,” Adams said.
> “Certifications of Live Birth were given to people who were born at home,
> or to people who were born overseas and whose parents brought them back to
> the islands. If his parents were U.S. citizens, or if one parent was a U.S.
> citizen, as was the case with Obama, the family would apply for a Hawaiian
> birth certificate when the parents came back from overseas. That’s normally
> how you would have gotten on [a Certification of Live Birth] in the 1960s.”
>
>  WND has reported<http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=121136>that in 1961, Obama’s grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, could have
> made an in-person request at the Hawaii Department of Health for a
> registration of a Hawaii birth, even if the infant Barack Obama Jr. had
> been foreign-born.
>
> In the past few days, Abercrombie has represented that there is a
> registration of Obama’s birth in the state archives.
>
> But the state registration of birth in 1961 theoretically could prove only
> that the grandparents had registered Obama’s birth, even if Obama was not
> born in Hawaii.
>
> Similarly, the newspaper announcements of baby Obama’s birth do not prove
> he was born in Hawaii, since the newspaper announcements could have been
> triggered by the grandparents appearing in-person to register baby Obama as
> a Hawaiian birth, even if the baby was born elsewhere.
>
>  WND has documented<http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=107337>that the address reported in the birth announcements published in the
> Hawaii newspapers at the time, 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, was the address
> where the grandparents lived.
>
>  WND has also reported<http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=107337>that Barack Obama Sr. maintained his own separate apartment in Honolulu at
> an 11th Avenue address, even after he was supposedly married to Ann Dunham,
> Barack Obama’s mother, and that Ann Dunham left Hawaii within three weeks
> of the baby’s birth<http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105341>to attend the University of Washington in Seattle.
>
> Dunham did not return to Hawaii until after Barack Obama Sr. left Hawaii
> in June 1962 to attend graduate school at Harvard University in Cambridge,
> Mass.
>
> It’s possible the yet-undisclosed birth record in the state archives that
> Abercrombie has discovered may have come from the grandparents registering
> baby Obama’s birth, an event that would have triggered both the newspaper
> birth announcements and availability of a Certification of Live Birth, even
> if no long-form record exists.
>
>  WND has confirmed<http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=165041>with Glen Takahashi, elections administrator for the city and county of
> Honolulu, that Adams was indeed working in their elections offices during
> the last presidential election.
>
> “We hire temporary workers, because we’re seasonal,” Takahashi told WND.
>
> Adams told WND he supported Hillary Clinton during the 2008 presidential
> election campaign.
>
> He described himself as a libertarian who wants less government spending,
> fewer laws that restrict personal freedoms, more adherences to the
> Constitution and an end to foreign wars.
>
> “I’m interested in individual liberty and upholding the Constitution,” he
> said. “I want to get American troops out from foreign countries, and I want
> to see the federal budget balanced.”
>
> He said he might be inclined to support former-Arkansas Governor Mike
> Huckabee or former-Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney in 2012 to run
> against President Obama, but he has not yet made up his mind.
>
> “It depends on how fiscally conservative Huckabee and Romney turn out to
> be on economics,” he said. “But from what I know right now, they would
> probably be better than Obama.”
>
>
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