[Rushtalk] It's Just *NOT* There!

Paf Dvorak notmyname at thatswaytoomuch.info
Sun Mar 17 14:32:05 MDT 2013


At 09:00 PM 3/16/2013 -0400, John A. Quayle wrote:
>At 05:26 PM 3/16/2013, Paf Dvorak wrote:
>>At 02:48 PM 3/16/2013 -0400, John A. Quayle wrote:
>>>At 05:32 AM 3/16/2013, JD wrote:
>>>>Hearsay within hearsay.
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>>>         No sir........there's a sworn affidavit, 
>>> now........stuff's REAL, dewd!
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>>Assuming you're correct, why are NO US gov't officials doings 
>>anything about it?
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>         He's the sacred one! All hail the big "O"!

So how can you, in good conscience, vote for ANY REPUBLICAN who 
either worships the big O or is too pussified to do anything or say anything??






>>>>On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 5:27 AM, John A. Quayle 
>>>><<mailto:blueoval57 at verizon.net>blueoval57 at verizon.net > wrote:
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>>>>WorldNetDaily Exclusive
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>>>>Hawaii official now swears: No Obama birth certificate
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>>>>Signs affidavit declaring long-form, hospital-generated document absent
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>>>>Published: 01/24/2011 at 8:48 PM
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>>>>    by <http://www.wnd.com/author/jcorsi/>Jerome R. Corsi 
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>>>>Jerome R. Corsi, a Harvard Ph.D., is a WND senior staff reporter. 
>>>>He has authored many books, including No. 1 N.Y. Times 
>>>>best-sellers "The Obama Nation" and "Unfit for Command." Corsi's 
>>>>latest book is 
>>>><http://superstore.wnd.com/digital/WND-digital/wheres-the-real-birth-certificate-e-book>"Where's 
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>>>>Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an 
>>>>affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that 
>>>>no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for 
>>>>Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that neither Queens Medical Center 
>>>>nor Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu had any record of Obama 
>>>>having been born in their medical facilities.
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>>>>Notary seal on Timothy Adams' affidavit
>>>>Adams was employed at the 
>>>><http://www.honoluluelections.us/about_us>City and County of 
>>>>Honolulu Elections Division from May 2008 through September 2008.
>>>>His position was senior elections clerk, overseeing a group of 50 
>>>>to 60 employees responsible for verifying the identity of voters 
>>>>at the Absentee Ballot Office. It was in this capacity that Adams 
>>>>became aware of the search for Obama's birth-certificate records.
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>>>><http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104814>See the 
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>>>>this unprecedented presidential-eligibility mystery!
>>>>"During the course of my employment," Adams swears in the 
>>>>affidavit (viewable in full as 
>>>><http://www.wnd.com/files/110123adams1.pdf>part 1 and 
>>>><http://www.wnd.com/files/110123adams2.pdf>part 2), "I became 
>>>>aware that many requests were being made to the City and County 
>>>>of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, 
>>>>and the <http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/254401/#>Hawaii Department of 
>>>>Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator 
>>>>Barack Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate."
>>>>As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his 
>>>>supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the 
>>>>Hawaii Department of Health.
>>>>"Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections 
>>>>Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, 
>>>>hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in 
>>>>the Hawaii Department of Health," Adams' affidavit reads, "and 
>>>>there was no record that any such document had ever been on file 
>>>>in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or 
>>>>department of the Hawaii government."
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>>>>Tim Adams, former senior elections clerk for Honolulu
>>>>In a recorded telephone interview, Adams told WND that it was 
>>>>common knowledge among election officials where he worked that no 
>>>>long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate could be found at 
>>>>the Hawaii Department of Health.
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>>>>"My supervisor came and told me, 'Of course, there's no birth 
>>>>certificate. What? You stupid,'" Adams said. "She usually spoke 
>>>>well, but in saying this she reverted to a Hawaiian dialect. I 
>>>>really didn't know how to respond to that. She said it and just 
>>>>walked off. She was quite a powerful lady."
>>>>Moreover, Adams was told that neither Queens Memorial Hospital 
>>>>nor Kapi'olani Medical Center had any records of Obama's birth at 
>>>>their medical facilities: "Senior officers in the City and County 
>>>>of Honolulu Elections Division further told me on multiple 
>>>>occasions that Hawaii State government officials had made 
>>>>inquires about Sen. Obama's 
>>>><http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/254401/#>birth records to officials 
>>>>at Queens Medical Center and Kapi'olani Medical Center in 
>>>>Honolulu and that neither hospital had any record of Senator 
>>>>Obama having been born there, even though Governor Abercrombie is 
>>>>now asserting and various Hawaii government officials 
>>>><http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/254401/#>continue to assert Barack 
>>>>Obama Jr. was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center on Aug. 4, 1961."
>>>>"We called the two hospitals in Honolulu: Queens and Kapi'olani," 
>>>>Adams stressed. "Neither of them have any records that Barack 
>>>>Obama was born there."
>>>>In 2009, 
>>>><http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103306>WND 
>>>>documented that Obama and his supporters had first claimed he was 
>>>>born at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu, before the story 
>>>>changed to Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu.
>>>>After 
>>>><http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103465>WND's 
>>>>report on the two conflicting hospitals, online news sites 
>>>>including the United Press International and Snopes.com scrubbed 
>>>>their websites to eliminate any reference to Queens Medical 
>>>>Center, substituting instead that Obama was born at Kapi'olani 
>>>>Medical Center without explaining the discrepancy or the correction.
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>>>>Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie
>>>>In 2010, then-candidate for governor Neil Abercrombie 
>>>><http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103503>was 
>>>>involved in an Obama birth controversy when he read a letter at a 
>>>>Kapi'olani Medical Center centennial dinner in Honolulu that 
>>>>supposedly was authored by President Obama, claiming Kapi'olani 
>>>>as his birth hospital.
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>>>><http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103633>As 
>>>>WND reported, the letter read by Abercrombie and initially 
>>>>displayed on the Kapi'olani website turned out to be a 
>>>>computer-created likeness of a letter using HTML code, the 
>>>>building blocks of Internet websites, not an actual paper letter.
>>>>The White House has still not confirmed it wrote or sent the letter.
>>>>Moreover, Adams claims, the Hawaii government was engaged in a 
>>>>cover-up designed to tell the American public through the 
>>>>Obama-supporting mainstream media that Obama was born in Hawaii, 
>>>>even though no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate 
>>>>for Obama could be found on record in the Hawaii Department of Health.
>>>>In the affidavit Adams swears, "During the course of my 
>>>>employment, I came to understand that for political reasons, 
>>>>various officials in the government of Hawaii, including 
>>>>then-Governor Linda Lingle and various officials of the Hawaii 
>>>>Department of Health, including Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the director 
>>>>of the Hawaii Department of Health, were making representations 
>>>>that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no government 
>>>>official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for 
>>>>Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the 
>>>>time of his birth."
>>>>Adams further swears his supervisors told him to quit asking 
>>>>about Obama's birth records.
>>>>"During the course of my employment," Adams states in the 
>>>>affidavit, "I was told by senior officers in the City and County 
>>>>of Honolulu Elections Division to stop inquiring about Senator 
>>>>Obama's Hawaii birth records, even though it was common knowledge 
>>>>among my fellow employees that no Hawaii long-form, 
>>>>hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama."
>>>>"I can go get my long-form, hospital-generated birth 
>>>>certificate," Adams told WND. "And so I don't understand, this 
>>>>whole controversy should have been settled three or four years 
>>>>ago in about five minutes."
>>>>Nor does Adams feel the short-form Certification of Live Birth is 
>>>>authoritative documentation proving that Obama was born in Hawaii.
>>>>"My basic assumption is that he wasn't born there," Adams said. 
>>>>"Certifications of Live Birth were given to people who were born 
>>>>at home, or to people who were born overseas and whose parents 
>>>>brought them back to the islands. If his parents were U.S. 
>>>>citizens, or if one parent was a U.S. citizen, as was the case 
>>>>with Obama, the family would apply for a Hawaiian birth 
>>>>certificate when the parents came back from overseas. That's 
>>>>normally how you would have gotten on [a Certification of Live 
>>>>Birth] in the 1960s."
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>>>><http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=121136>WND 
>>>>has reported that in 1961, Obama's grandparents, Stanley and 
>>>>Madelyn Dunham, could have made an in-person request at the 
>>>>Hawaii Department of Health for a registration of a Hawaii birth, 
>>>>even if the infant Barack Obama Jr. had been foreign-born.
>>>>In the past few days, Abercrombie has represented that there is a 
>>>>registration of Obama's birth in the state archives.
>>>>But the state registration of birth in 1961 theoretically could 
>>>>prove only that the grandparents had registered Obama's birth, 
>>>>even if Obama was not born in Hawaii.
>>>>Similarly, the newspaper announcements of baby Obama's birth do 
>>>>not prove he was born in Hawaii, since the newspaper 
>>>>announcements could have been triggered by the grandparents 
>>>>appearing in-person to register baby Obama as a Hawaiian birth, 
>>>>even if the baby was born elsewhere.
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>>>><http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=107337>WND 
>>>>has documented that the address reported in the birth 
>>>>announcements published in the Hawaii newspapers at the time, 
>>>>6085 Kalanianaole Highway, was the address where the grandparents lived.
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>>>><http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=107337>WND 
>>>>has also reported that Barack Obama Sr. maintained his own 
>>>>separate apartment in Honolulu at an 11th Avenue address, even 
>>>>after he was supposedly married to Ann Dunham, Barack Obama's 
>>>>mother, and that Ann Dunham 
>>>><http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105341>left 
>>>>Hawaii within three weeks of the baby's birth to attend the 
>>>>University of Washington in Seattle.
>>>>Dunham did not return to Hawaii until after Barack Obama Sr. left 
>>>>Hawaii in June 1962 to attend graduate school at Harvard 
>>>>University in Cambridge, Mass.
>>>>It's possible the yet-undisclosed birth record in the state 
>>>>archives that Abercrombie has discovered may have come from the 
>>>>grandparents registering baby Obama's birth, an event that would 
>>>>have triggered both the newspaper birth announcements and 
>>>>availability of a Certification of Live Birth, even if no 
>>>>long-form record exists.
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>>>><http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=165041>WND 
>>>>has confirmed with Glen Takahashi, elections administrator for 
>>>>the city and county of Honolulu, that Adams was indeed working in 
>>>>their elections offices during the last presidential election.
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>>>>"We hire temporary workers, because we're seasonal," Takahashi told WND.
>>>>Adams told WND he supported Hillary Clinton during the 2008 
>>>>presidential election campaign.
>>>>He described himself as a libertarian who wants less government 
>>>>spending, fewer laws that restrict personal freedoms, more 
>>>>adherences to the Constitution and an end to foreign wars.
>>>>"I'm interested in individual liberty and upholding the 
>>>>Constitution," he said. "I want to get American troops out from 
>>>>foreign countries, and I want to see the federal budget balanced."
>>>>He said he might be inclined to support former-Arkansas Governor 
>>>>Mike Huckabee or former-Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney in 
>>>>2012 to run against President Obama, but he has not yet made up his mind.
>>>>"It depends on how fiscally conservative Huckabee and Romney turn 
>>>>out to be on economics," he said. "But from what I know right 
>>>>now, they would probably be better than Obama."
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