[Rushtalk] It's Just *NOT* There!

John A. Quayle blueoval57 at verizon.net
Sun Mar 17 20:01:47 MDT 2013

At 04:32 PM 3/17/2013, Paf Dvorak wrote:
>At 09:00 PM 3/16/2013 -0400, John A. Quayle wrote:
>>At 05:26 PM 3/16/2013, Paf Dvorak wrote:
>>>At 02:48 PM 3/16/2013 -0400, John A. Quayle wrote:
>>>>At 05:32 AM 3/16/2013, JD wrote:
>>>>>Hearsay within hearsay.
>>>>         No sir........there's a sworn affidavit, 
>>>> now........stuff's REAL, dewd!
>>>Assuming you're correct, why are NO US gov't officials doings 
>>>anything about it?
>>         He's the sacred one! All hail the big "O"!
>So how can you, in good conscience, vote for ANY REPUBLICAN who 
>either worships the big O or is too pussified to do anything or say anything??

         I can't/won't & Don't!

>>>>>On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 5:27 AM, John A. Quayle 
>>>>><<mailto:blueoval57 at verizon.net>blueoval57 at verizon.net > wrote:
>>>>>WorldNetDaily Exclusive
>>>>>Hawaii official now swears: No Obama birth certificate
>>>>>Signs affidavit declaring long-form, hospital-generated document absent
>>>>>Published: 01/24/2011 at 8:48 PM
>>>>>     by <http://www.wnd.com/author/jcorsi/>Jerome R. Corsi 
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>>>>>reporter. He has authored many books, including No. 1 N.Y. Times 
>>>>>best-sellers "The Obama Nation" and "Unfit for Command." Corsi's 
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>>>>>Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an 
>>>>>affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that 
>>>>>no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for 
>>>>>Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that neither Queens Medical 
>>>>>Center nor Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu had any record 
>>>>>of Obama having been born in their medical facilities.
>>>>>Notary seal on Timothy Adams' affidavit
>>>>>Adams was employed at the 
>>>>><http://www.honoluluelections.us/about_us>City and County of 
>>>>>Honolulu Elections Division from May 2008 through September 2008.
>>>>>His position was senior elections clerk, overseeing a group of 
>>>>>50 to 60 employees responsible for verifying the identity of 
>>>>>voters at the Absentee Ballot Office. It was in this capacity 
>>>>>that Adams became aware of the search for Obama's birth-certificate records.
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>>>>>this unprecedented presidential-eligibility mystery!
>>>>>"During the course of my employment," Adams swears in the 
>>>>>affidavit (viewable in full as 
>>>>><http://www.wnd.com/files/110123adams1.pdf>part 1 and 
>>>>><http://www.wnd.com/files/110123adams2.pdf>part 2), "I became 
>>>>>aware that many requests were being made to the City and County 
>>>>>of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, 
>>>>>and the <http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/254401/#>Hawaii Department 
>>>>>of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of 
>>>>>then-Senator Barack Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate."
>>>>>As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his 
>>>>>supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the 
>>>>>Hawaii Department of Health.
>>>>>"Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections 
>>>>>Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, 
>>>>>hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama 
>>>>>in the Hawaii Department of Health," Adams' affidavit reads, 
>>>>>"and there was no record that any such document had ever been on 
>>>>>file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or 
>>>>>department of the Hawaii government."
>>>>>Tim Adams, former senior elections clerk for Honolulu
>>>>>In a recorded telephone interview, Adams told WND that it was 
>>>>>common knowledge among election officials where he worked that 
>>>>>no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate could be 
>>>>>found at the Hawaii Department of Health.
>>>>>"My supervisor came and told me, 'Of course, there's no birth 
>>>>>certificate. What? You stupid,'" Adams said. "She usually spoke 
>>>>>well, but in saying this she reverted to a Hawaiian dialect. I 
>>>>>really didn't know how to respond to that. She said it and just 
>>>>>walked off. She was quite a powerful lady."
>>>>>Moreover, Adams was told that neither Queens Memorial Hospital 
>>>>>nor Kapi'olani Medical Center had any records of Obama's birth 
>>>>>at their medical facilities: "Senior officers in the City and 
>>>>>County of Honolulu Elections Division further told me on 
>>>>>multiple occasions that Hawaii State government officials had 
>>>>>made inquires about Sen. Obama's 
>>>>><http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/254401/#>birth records to officials 
>>>>>at Queens Medical Center and Kapi'olani Medical Center in 
>>>>>Honolulu and that neither hospital had any record of Senator 
>>>>>Obama having been born there, even though Governor Abercrombie 
>>>>>is now asserting and various Hawaii government officials 
>>>>><http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/254401/#>continue to assert Barack 
>>>>>Obama Jr. was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center on Aug. 4, 1961."
>>>>>"We called the two hospitals in Honolulu: Queens and 
>>>>>Kapi'olani," Adams stressed. "Neither of them have any records 
>>>>>that Barack Obama was born there."
>>>>>In 2009, 
>>>>>documented that Obama and his supporters had first claimed he 
>>>>>was born at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu, before the story 
>>>>>changed to Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu.
>>>>>report on the two conflicting hospitals, online news sites 
>>>>>including the United Press International and Snopes.com scrubbed 
>>>>>their websites to eliminate any reference to Queens Medical 
>>>>>Center, substituting instead that Obama was born at Kapi'olani 
>>>>>Medical Center without explaining the discrepancy or the correction.
>>>>>Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie
>>>>>In 2010, then-candidate for governor Neil Abercrombie 
>>>>>involved in an Obama birth controversy when he read a letter at 
>>>>>a Kapi'olani Medical Center centennial dinner in Honolulu that 
>>>>>supposedly was authored by President Obama, claiming Kapi'olani 
>>>>>as his birth hospital.
>>>>>WND reported, the letter read by Abercrombie and initially 
>>>>>displayed on the Kapi'olani website turned out to be a 
>>>>>computer-created likeness of a letter using HTML code, the 
>>>>>building blocks of Internet websites, not an actual paper letter.
>>>>>The White House has still not confirmed it wrote or sent the letter.
>>>>>Moreover, Adams claims, the Hawaii government was engaged in a 
>>>>>cover-up designed to tell the American public through the 
>>>>>Obama-supporting mainstream media that Obama was born in Hawaii, 
>>>>>even though no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate 
>>>>>for Obama could be found on record in the Hawaii Department of Health.
>>>>>In the affidavit Adams swears, "During the course of my 
>>>>>employment, I came to understand that for political reasons, 
>>>>>various officials in the government of Hawaii, including 
>>>>>then-Governor Linda Lingle and various officials of the Hawaii 
>>>>>Department of Health, including Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the director 
>>>>>of the Hawaii Department of Health, were making representations 
>>>>>that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no government 
>>>>>official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for 
>>>>>Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the 
>>>>>time of his birth."
>>>>>Adams further swears his supervisors told him to quit asking 
>>>>>about Obama's birth records.
>>>>>"During the course of my employment," Adams states in the 
>>>>>affidavit, "I was told by senior officers in the City and County 
>>>>>of Honolulu Elections Division to stop inquiring about Senator 
>>>>>Obama's Hawaii birth records, even though it was common 
>>>>>knowledge among my fellow employees that no Hawaii long-form, 
>>>>>hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama."
>>>>>"I can go get my long-form, hospital-generated birth 
>>>>>certificate," Adams told WND. "And so I don't understand, this 
>>>>>whole controversy should have been settled three or four years 
>>>>>ago in about five minutes."
>>>>>Nor does Adams feel the short-form Certification of Live Birth 
>>>>>is authoritative documentation proving that Obama was born in Hawaii.
>>>>>"My basic assumption is that he wasn't born there," Adams said. 
>>>>>"Certifications of Live Birth were given to people who were born 
>>>>>at home, or to people who were born overseas and whose parents 
>>>>>brought them back to the islands. If his parents were U.S. 
>>>>>citizens, or if one parent was a U.S. citizen, as was the case 
>>>>>with Obama, the family would apply for a Hawaiian birth 
>>>>>certificate when the parents came back from overseas. That's 
>>>>>normally how you would have gotten on [a Certification of Live 
>>>>>Birth] in the 1960s."
>>>>>has reported that in 1961, Obama's grandparents, Stanley and 
>>>>>Madelyn Dunham, could have made an in-person request at the 
>>>>>Hawaii Department of Health for a registration of a Hawaii 
>>>>>birth, even if the infant Barack Obama Jr. had been foreign-born.
>>>>>In the past few days, Abercrombie has represented that there is 
>>>>>a registration of Obama's birth in the state archives.
>>>>>But the state registration of birth in 1961 theoretically could 
>>>>>prove only that the grandparents had registered Obama's birth, 
>>>>>even if Obama was not born in Hawaii.
>>>>>Similarly, the newspaper announcements of baby Obama's birth do 
>>>>>not prove he was born in Hawaii, since the newspaper 
>>>>>announcements could have been triggered by the grandparents 
>>>>>appearing in-person to register baby Obama as a Hawaiian birth, 
>>>>>even if the baby was born elsewhere.
>>>>>has documented that the address reported in the birth 
>>>>>announcements published in the Hawaii newspapers at the time, 
>>>>>6085 Kalanianaole Highway, was the address where the grandparents lived.
>>>>>has also reported that Barack Obama Sr. maintained his own 
>>>>>separate apartment in Honolulu at an 11th Avenue address, even 
>>>>>after he was supposedly married to Ann Dunham, Barack Obama's 
>>>>>mother, and that Ann Dunham 
>>>>>Hawaii within three weeks of the baby's birth to attend the 
>>>>>University of Washington in Seattle.
>>>>>Dunham did not return to Hawaii until after Barack Obama Sr. 
>>>>>left Hawaii in June 1962 to attend graduate school at Harvard 
>>>>>University in Cambridge, Mass.
>>>>>It's possible the yet-undisclosed birth record in the state 
>>>>>archives that Abercrombie has discovered may have come from the 
>>>>>grandparents registering baby Obama's birth, an event that would 
>>>>>have triggered both the newspaper birth announcements and 
>>>>>availability of a Certification of Live Birth, even if no 
>>>>>long-form record exists.
>>>>>has confirmed with Glen Takahashi, elections administrator for 
>>>>>the city and county of Honolulu, that Adams was indeed working 
>>>>>in their elections offices during the last presidential election.
>>>>>"We hire temporary workers, because we're seasonal," Takahashi told WND.
>>>>>Adams told WND he supported Hillary Clinton during the 2008 
>>>>>presidential election campaign.
>>>>>He described himself as a libertarian who wants less government 
>>>>>spending, fewer laws that restrict personal freedoms, more 
>>>>>adherences to the Constitution and an end to foreign wars.
>>>>>"I'm interested in individual liberty and upholding the 
>>>>>Constitution," he said. "I want to get American troops out from 
>>>>>foreign countries, and I want to see the federal budget balanced."
>>>>>He said he might be inclined to support former-Arkansas Governor 
>>>>>Mike Huckabee or former-Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney in 
>>>>>2012 to run against President Obama, but he has not yet made up his mind.
>>>>>"It depends on how fiscally conservative Huckabee and Romney 
>>>>>turn out to be on economics," he said. "But from what I know 
>>>>>right now, they would probably be better than Obama."
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