[Rushtalk] It's Just *NOT* There!

John A. Quayle blueoval57 at verizon.net
Mon Mar 18 03:50:54 MDT 2013

At 12:33 AM 3/18/2013, you wrote:
>At 10:01 PM 3/17/2013 -0400, John A. Quayle wrote:
>>At 04:32 PM 3/17/2013, Paf Dvorak wrote:
>>>At 09:00 PM 3/16/2013 -0400, John A. Quayle wrote:
>>>>At 05:26 PM 3/16/2013, Paf Dvorak wrote:
>>>>>At 02:48 PM 3/16/2013 -0400, John A. Quayle wrote:
>>>>>>At 05:32 AM 3/16/2013, JD wrote:
>>>>>>>Hearsay within hearsay.
>>>>>>         No sir........there's a sworn affidavit, 
>>>>>> now........stuff's REAL, dewd!
>>>>>Assuming you're correct, why are NO US gov't officials doings 
>>>>>anything about it?
>>>>         He's the sacred one! All hail the big "O"!
>>>So how can you, in good conscience, vote for ANY REPUBLICAN who 
>>>either worships the big O or is too pussified to do anything or say anything??
>>         I can't/won't & Don't!
>So wait, I *know* yer not gonna ever vote fer a Demmie. And if ANY 
>presently "serving" Republican runs for office, or any Republican 
>who is doing NOTHING about Obobo now runs, are you telling me yer 
>gonna stay home and not vote in 2016??

         I'm seriously contemplating changing my registration to 

>>>>>>>On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 5:27 AM, John A. Quayle 
>>>>>>><<mailto:blueoval57 at verizon.net>blueoval57 at verizon.net > wrote:
>>>>>>>WorldNetDaily Exclusive
>>>>>>>Hawaii official now swears: No Obama birth certificate
>>>>>>>Signs affidavit declaring long-form, hospital-generated document absent
>>>>>>>Published: 01/24/2011 at 8:48 PM
>>>>>>>      by <http://www.wnd.com/author/jcorsi/>Jerome R. Corsi 
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>>>>>>>reporter. He has authored many books, including No. 1 N.Y. 
>>>>>>>Times best-sellers "The Obama Nation" and "Unfit for Command." 
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>>>>>>>Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an 
>>>>>>>affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii 
>>>>>>>that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate 
>>>>>>>existed for Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that neither Queens 
>>>>>>>Medical Center nor Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu had 
>>>>>>>any record of Obama having been born in their medical facilities.
>>>>>>>Notary seal on Timothy Adams' affidavit
>>>>>>>Adams was employed at the 
>>>>>>><http://www.honoluluelections.us/about_us>City and County of 
>>>>>>>Honolulu Elections Division from May 2008 through September 2008.
>>>>>>>His position was senior elections clerk, overseeing a group of 
>>>>>>>50 to 60 employees responsible for verifying the identity of 
>>>>>>>voters at the Absentee Ballot Office. It was in this capacity 
>>>>>>>that Adams became aware of the search for Obama's birth-certificate records.
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>>>>>>>probes this unprecedented presidential-eligibility mystery!
>>>>>>>"During the course of my employment," Adams swears in the 
>>>>>>>affidavit (viewable in full as 
>>>>>>><http://www.wnd.com/files/110123adams1.pdf>part 1 and 
>>>>>>><http://www.wnd.com/files/110123adams2.pdf>part 2), "I became 
>>>>>>>aware that many requests were being made to the City and 
>>>>>>>County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of 
>>>>>>>Elections, and the <http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/254401/#>Hawaii 
>>>>>>>Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy 
>>>>>>>of then-Senator Barack Obama's long-form, hospital-generated 
>>>>>>>birth certificate."
>>>>>>>As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his 
>>>>>>>supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the 
>>>>>>>Hawaii Department of Health.
>>>>>>>"Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections 
>>>>>>>Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii 
>>>>>>>long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for 
>>>>>>>Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health," Adams' 
>>>>>>>affidavit reads, "and there was no record that any such 
>>>>>>>document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of 
>>>>>>>Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government."
>>>>>>>Tim Adams, former senior elections clerk for Honolulu
>>>>>>>In a recorded telephone interview, Adams told WND that it was 
>>>>>>>common knowledge among election officials where he worked that 
>>>>>>>no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate could be 
>>>>>>>found at the Hawaii Department of Health.
>>>>>>>"My supervisor came and told me, 'Of course, there's no birth 
>>>>>>>certificate. What? You stupid,'" Adams said. "She usually 
>>>>>>>spoke well, but in saying this she reverted to a Hawaiian 
>>>>>>>dialect. I really didn't know how to respond to that. She said 
>>>>>>>it and just walked off. She was quite a powerful lady."
>>>>>>>Moreover, Adams was told that neither Queens Memorial Hospital 
>>>>>>>nor Kapi'olani Medical Center had any records of Obama's birth 
>>>>>>>at their medical facilities: "Senior officers in the City and 
>>>>>>>County of Honolulu Elections Division further told me on 
>>>>>>>multiple occasions that Hawaii State government officials had 
>>>>>>>made inquires about Sen. Obama's 
>>>>>>><http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/254401/#>birth records to 
>>>>>>>officials at Queens Medical Center and Kapi'olani Medical 
>>>>>>>Center in Honolulu and that neither hospital had any record of 
>>>>>>>Senator Obama having been born there, even though Governor 
>>>>>>>Abercrombie is now asserting and various Hawaii government 
>>>>>>>officials <http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/254401/#>continue to 
>>>>>>>assert Barack Obama Jr. was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center 
>>>>>>>on Aug. 4, 1961."
>>>>>>>"We called the two hospitals in Honolulu: Queens and 
>>>>>>>Kapi'olani," Adams stressed. "Neither of them have any records 
>>>>>>>that Barack Obama was born there."
>>>>>>>In 2009, 
>>>>>>>documented that Obama and his supporters had first claimed he 
>>>>>>>was born at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu, before the 
>>>>>>>story changed to Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu.
>>>>>>>report on the two conflicting hospitals, online news sites 
>>>>>>>including the United Press International and Snopes.com 
>>>>>>>scrubbed their websites to eliminate any reference to Queens 
>>>>>>>Medical Center, substituting instead that Obama was born at 
>>>>>>>Kapi'olani Medical Center without explaining the discrepancy 
>>>>>>>or the correction.
>>>>>>>Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie
>>>>>>>In 2010, then-candidate for governor Neil Abercrombie 
>>>>>>>involved in an Obama birth controversy when he read a letter 
>>>>>>>at a Kapi'olani Medical Center centennial dinner in Honolulu 
>>>>>>>that supposedly was authored by President Obama, claiming 
>>>>>>>Kapi'olani as his birth hospital.
>>>>>>>WND reported, the letter read by Abercrombie and initially 
>>>>>>>displayed on the Kapi'olani website turned out to be a 
>>>>>>>computer-created likeness of a letter using HTML code, the 
>>>>>>>building blocks of Internet websites, not an actual paper letter.
>>>>>>>The White House has still not confirmed it wrote or sent the letter.
>>>>>>>Moreover, Adams claims, the Hawaii government was engaged in a 
>>>>>>>cover-up designed to tell the American public through the 
>>>>>>>Obama-supporting mainstream media that Obama was born in 
>>>>>>>Hawaii, even though no long-form, hospital-generated birth 
>>>>>>>certificate for Obama could be found on record in the Hawaii 
>>>>>>>Department of Health.
>>>>>>>In the affidavit Adams swears, "During the course of my 
>>>>>>>employment, I came to understand that for political reasons, 
>>>>>>>various officials in the government of Hawaii, including 
>>>>>>>then-Governor Linda Lingle and various officials of the Hawaii 
>>>>>>>Department of Health, including Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the 
>>>>>>>director of the Hawaii Department of Health, were making 
>>>>>>>representations that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, even 
>>>>>>>though no government official in Hawaii could find a long-form 
>>>>>>>birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a 
>>>>>>>Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth."
>>>>>>>Adams further swears his supervisors told him to quit asking 
>>>>>>>about Obama's birth records.
>>>>>>>"During the course of my employment," Adams states in the 
>>>>>>>affidavit, "I was told by senior officers in the City and 
>>>>>>>County of Honolulu Elections Division to stop inquiring about 
>>>>>>>Senator Obama's Hawaii birth records, even though it was 
>>>>>>>common knowledge among my fellow employees that no Hawaii 
>>>>>>>long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama."
>>>>>>>"I can go get my long-form, hospital-generated birth 
>>>>>>>certificate," Adams told WND. "And so I don't understand, this 
>>>>>>>whole controversy should have been settled three or four years 
>>>>>>>ago in about five minutes."
>>>>>>>Nor does Adams feel the short-form Certification of Live Birth 
>>>>>>>is authoritative documentation proving that Obama was born in Hawaii.
>>>>>>>"My basic assumption is that he wasn't born there," Adams 
>>>>>>>said. "Certifications of Live Birth were given to people who 
>>>>>>>were born at home, or to people who were born overseas and 
>>>>>>>whose parents brought them back to the islands. If his parents 
>>>>>>>were U.S. citizens, or if one parent was a U.S. citizen, as 
>>>>>>>was the case with Obama, the family would apply for a Hawaiian 
>>>>>>>birth certificate when the parents came back from overseas. 
>>>>>>>That's normally how you would have gotten on [a Certification 
>>>>>>>of Live Birth] in the 1960s."
>>>>>>>has reported that in 1961, Obama's grandparents, Stanley and 
>>>>>>>Madelyn Dunham, could have made an in-person request at the 
>>>>>>>Hawaii Department of Health for a registration of a Hawaii 
>>>>>>>birth, even if the infant Barack Obama Jr. had been foreign-born.
>>>>>>>In the past few days, Abercrombie has represented that there 
>>>>>>>is a registration of Obama's birth in the state archives.
>>>>>>>But the state registration of birth in 1961 theoretically 
>>>>>>>could prove only that the grandparents had registered Obama's 
>>>>>>>birth, even if Obama was not born in Hawaii.
>>>>>>>Similarly, the newspaper announcements of baby Obama's birth 
>>>>>>>do not prove he was born in Hawaii, since the newspaper 
>>>>>>>announcements could have been triggered by the grandparents 
>>>>>>>appearing in-person to register baby Obama as a Hawaiian 
>>>>>>>birth, even if the baby was born elsewhere.
>>>>>>>has documented that the address reported in the birth 
>>>>>>>announcements published in the Hawaii newspapers at the time, 
>>>>>>>6085 Kalanianaole Highway, was the address where the grandparents lived.
>>>>>>>has also reported that Barack Obama Sr. maintained his own 
>>>>>>>separate apartment in Honolulu at an 11th Avenue address, even 
>>>>>>>after he was supposedly married to Ann Dunham, Barack Obama's 
>>>>>>>mother, and that Ann Dunham 
>>>>>>>Hawaii within three weeks of the baby's birth to attend the 
>>>>>>>University of Washington in Seattle.
>>>>>>>Dunham did not return to Hawaii until after Barack Obama Sr. 
>>>>>>>left Hawaii in June 1962 to attend graduate school at Harvard 
>>>>>>>University in Cambridge, Mass.
>>>>>>>It's possible the yet-undisclosed birth record in the state 
>>>>>>>archives that Abercrombie has discovered may have come from 
>>>>>>>the grandparents registering baby Obama's birth, an event that 
>>>>>>>would have triggered both the newspaper birth announcements 
>>>>>>>and availability of a Certification of Live Birth, even if no 
>>>>>>>long-form record exists.
>>>>>>>has confirmed with Glen Takahashi, elections administrator for 
>>>>>>>the city and county of Honolulu, that Adams was indeed working 
>>>>>>>in their elections offices during the last presidential election.
>>>>>>>"We hire temporary workers, because we're seasonal," Takahashi 
>>>>>>>told WND.
>>>>>>>Adams told WND he supported Hillary Clinton during the 2008 
>>>>>>>presidential election campaign.
>>>>>>>He described himself as a libertarian who wants less 
>>>>>>>government spending, fewer laws that restrict personal 
>>>>>>>freedoms, more adherences to the Constitution and an end to foreign wars.
>>>>>>>"I'm interested in individual liberty and upholding the 
>>>>>>>Constitution," he said. "I want to get American troops out 
>>>>>>>from foreign countries, and I want to see the federal budget balanced."
>>>>>>>He said he might be inclined to support former-Arkansas 
>>>>>>>Governor Mike Huckabee or former-Massachusetts Governor Mitt 
>>>>>>>Romney in 2012 to run against President Obama, but he has not 
>>>>>>>yet made up his mind.
>>>>>>>"It depends on how fiscally conservative Huckabee and Romney 
>>>>>>>turn out to be on economics," he said. "But from what I know 
>>>>>>>right now, they would probably be better than Obama."
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