[Rushtalk] demolish all mosques

Dennis Putnam dap1 at bellsouth.net
Thu Nov 28 18:10:35 MST 2013


I don't know about waving the flag of Christianity but I'm sure "turn
the other cheek' was not intended to mean allow yourself to be killed.
Self defense is a logical extension of the right to life.

On 11/28/2013 11:07 AM, Stephen A. Frye wrote:
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> I don't deny that, Dennis.  So maybe we should just kill them all
> while proudly waving the banner of our Christianity.  I am sure that's
> what Our Loving Savior has always intended.  He died for our freedom
> to do that.
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> *From:*rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com [mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Dennis Putnam
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 28, 2013 6:20 AM
> *To:* rushtalk at csdco.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] demolish all mosques
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>  
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> On 11/27/2013 7:34 PM, Stephen A. Frye wrote:
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>     The inquisition come to mind.
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>      
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>     The cutting off of native American's earlobes for not converting
>     to Christianity comes to mind.  The denying medical treatment to
>     those who wouldn't convert to Christianity comes to mind.
>
> Hardly valid comparisons (note: I'd rather have my earlobe cut off
> then beheaded or fed feet first into a chipper or thrown off a 2nd
> story building multiple times until I died). And when those incidents
> happened, were there world wide celebrations in the streets by
> Christians? That is the difference. I would bet that condemnations of
> those incidents exceeded or at least equaled celebrations. Unlike the
> opposite from world wide Muslims.
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>
> Just to name a few.
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>     Religious fanatics aren't limited to any single denomination.
>
> I never said they were. What I tried to say, and obviously failed, is
> that Muslims are the only set of fanatics that declared open war on
> non-Muslims and whose vast non-fantaical majority celebrate in the
> streets when non-Muslims are senselessly slaughtered. And no where, it
> seems, is there any open condemnation.
>
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> *From:*rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com <mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com>
> [mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Putnam
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 26, 2013 5:12 PM
> *To:* rushtalk at csdco.com <mailto:rushtalk at csdco.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] demolish all mosques
>
>  
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> I understand your basic point but I think you missed Steven's. I know
> of no incident of Christians, unprovoked, murdering 3000 innocent
> people because they didn't like their religion or way of life. Perhaps
> if you do you can tell me about it and bring me closer into line with
> your thinking.
>
> On 11/26/2013 7:50 PM, Stephen A. Frye wrote:
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>     Freedom of religion -- as long as it's ours.
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>      
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>     We're no better than those we eschew.  Not one damned bit.
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>      
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>     *From:*rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com
>     <mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com>
>     [mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] *On Behalf Of *John A. Quayle
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:47 PM
>     *To:* Rushtalk Discussion List
>     *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] demolish all mosques
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>      
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>     At 04:50 PM 11/26/2013, you wrote:
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>     *From:*Paf Dvorak <notmyname at thatswaytoomuch.info
>     <mailto:notmyname at thatswaytoomuch.info>>
>     *To:* Rushtalk Discussion List <rushtalk at csdco.com
>     <mailto:rushtalk at csdco.com>>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:36 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] demolish all mosques
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>     At 05:06 AM 11/26/2013 -0800, Steven Laib wrote:
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>     If true, they are way ahead of us. 
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>     SDL
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>     Did you miss the part where they're outlawing *other* religions?
>
>     Apparently, I did.  That part I don't hold with.  Islam is a
>     violent political cult, not a religion in my opinion. 
>     Others don't have that label in my book.
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>              */_AGREED_/**/!!!!
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>     /*
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>     SDL
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>     *From:*Paf Dvorak <notmyname at thatswaytoomuch.info
>     <mailto:notmyname at thatswaytoomuch.info>>
>     *To:* rushtalk at csdco.com <mailto:rushtalk at csdco.com>

>     *Sent:* Monday, November 25, 2013 10:35 PM
>     *Subject:* [Rushtalk] demolish all mosques
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>
>     Angola bans Islam, will demolish all mosques   
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>       Angola bans Islam, will demolish all mosques
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>     9:02 AM 11/25/2013
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>     <http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/25/angola-bans-islam-will-demolish-all-mosques/>A
>     number of newspapers in the region are reporting that the Republic
>     of Angola has outlawed Islam, apparently in an effort to thwart
>     the spread of Muslim radicalism in the country.
>
>     Among them was La Nouvelle Tribune, a French-language newspaper
>     out of Morocco, reports the International Business Times
>     <http://www.ibtimes.com/angola-bans-islam-dismantles-mosques-according-news-reports-1483660>.
>
>     La Nouvelle Tribune observed that a minaret on an Angolan mosque
>     had been removed previously. Also, in the small city of Zango, not
>     far from the capital of Luanda, government officials reportedly
>     destroyed a mosque.
>
>     The Moroccan paper quoted AngolaâEUR^(TM)s minister of culture,
>     Rosa Cruz e Silva, for details.
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>     âEURoeThe process of legalization of Islam has not been approved
>     by the Ministry of Justice and Human Rights,âEUR? Cruz e Silva
>     said. âEURoeTheir mosques would be closed until further notice.âEUR?
>
>     The ban, which includes an order to destroy all mosques in the
>     country, isnâEUR^(TM)t specific to Islam, according to India Today
>     <http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/angola-first-country-to-ban-islam-muslims-mosques-demolished/1/326414.html>.
>     Other faiths which donâEUR^(TM)t meet government approval will
>     face the same restrictions.
>
>     âEURoeAll sects on the list published by the Ministry of Justice
>     and Human Rights in the Angolan newspaper âEUR~Jornal de
>     AngolaâEUR^(TM) are prohibited to conduct worship, so they should
>     keep their doors closed,âEUR? Cruz e Silva was quoted by as saying
>     by the Cameroon Voice.
>
>     ItâEUR^(TM)s not clear which other religions are included.
>
>     Other government officials firmly agreed with the culture minister.
>
>     Bento Francisco Bento, governor of the countryâEUR^(TM)s Luanda
>     province, has declared that radical Muslims are âEURoenot welcome
>     in Angola.âEUR?
>
>     âEURoeThis is the final end of Islamic influence in our
>     country,âEUR? added AngolaâEUR^(TM)s President José Eduardo dos
>     Santos.
>
>     According to the CIAâEUR^(TM)s World Factbook
>     <https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ao.html>,
>     the people of Angola are mostly a mix of local tribes.
>     ThereâEUR^(TM)s a very small minority of Europeans.
>     ThereâEUR^(TM)s also a healthy 22 percent representation from
>     ethnic groups called âEURoeother.âEUR?
>
>     About 50 percent of the people in Angola practice indigenous
>     religious beliefs. Roman Catholics make up 38 percent of the
>     population. Protestants make up 15 percent.
>
>     To whatever extent adherents of Islam are living among the 18
>     million or so inhabitants in Angola, then, the population is by
>     all accounts very small.
>
>     Portuguese is the official language of Angola. The country is
>     slightly less than twice the size of Texas.
>
>     /Follow Eric on Twitter <https://twitter.com/ericowensdc> and on
>     Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/EricOwensDC?fref=ts>, and send
>     education-related story tips to erico at dailycaller.com
>     <mailto:erico at dailycaller.com>/.
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>     Read more:
>     http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/25/angola-bans-islam-will-demolish-all-mosques/#ixzz2litMvktg
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>     Paf Dvorak
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