[Rushtalk] demolish all mosques

Stephen A. Frye s.frye at verizon.net
Fri Nov 29 14:57:26 MST 2013


Sorry Dennis – when I read that I was sound asleep – almost.  I will re-read.

 

From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com [mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Putnam
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:00 PM
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Come on Stephen, surely you recognized my paraphrasing of your original statement as equal sarcasm.  "Freedom of religion – as long as we agree with the religion."

On 11/28/2013 10:11 PM, Stephen A. Frye wrote:

It is not a non sequitur. There was no stated premise, and I drew no conclusion. You, in your own words, added a condition to the first amendment.  You believe that you have justification for that.  What if others believe they have justification for adding conditions to other amendments?  No difference whatsoever.

 

From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com [mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Putnam
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 5:11 PM
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Non-sequitur Stephen and you know it.

On 11/28/2013 11:11 AM, Stephen A. Frye wrote:

Son of a gun.  I’ll print out my copy of the Constitution.  I missed that sentence last time I read it.  Missed it in the Federalist Papers, too, and in most of the interpretations of the Bill of Rights I have read.  I’m just really glad that caveat is part of the actual preserved right and not something someone added later.

 

So, are rights to privacy, attorney’s, trials, etc all just for Christians and not for criminals, or is those intended for the selective application as you suggest here, too?

From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com [mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Putnam
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 6:23 AM
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Wrong. Religious freedom as long as it is not intolerance toward others to the point of declared war and promises of death and destruction to entire nations with the capability of carrying it out.

On 11/27/2013 7:35 PM, Stephen A. Frye wrote:

I am sure you disagree.  Just as many Muslims disagree with us.

 

But you make my point to perfection:  religious freedom, as long as it’s us.

 

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At 07:23 PM 11/26/2013, Stephen A. Frye wrote:






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And, for many years, people thought that about Christianity.  Should it have been outlawed?
 
Freedom of religion – as long as we agree with the religion.


         Should we permit open practice of Satanism?!? I vehemently disagree!







 
From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com [ mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com <mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com> ] On Behalf Of Steven Laib
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From: Paf Dvorak < notmyname at thatswaytoomuch.info <mailto:notmyname at thatswaytoomuch.info> >
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At 05:06 AM 11/26/2013 -0800, Steven Laib wrote:

If true, they are way ahead of us.  

SDL

Did you miss the part where they're outlawing *other* religions?

Apparently, I did.  That part I don't hold with.  Islam is a violent political cult, not a religion in my opinion.  
Others don't have that label in my book. 

SDL


From: Paf Dvorak < notmyname at thatswaytoomuch.info <mailto:notmyname at thatswaytoomuch.info> >
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 Angola bans Islam, will demolish all mosques <http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/public-domain-Getty-Images-David-Jensen.jpg>    








Angola bans Islam, will demolish all mosques






9:02 AM 11/25/2013
 <http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/25/angola-bans-islam-will-demolish-all-mosques/>  

A number of newspapers in the region are reporting that the Republic of Angola has outlawed Islam, apparently in an effort to thwart the spread of Muslim radicalism in the country.

Among them was La Nouvelle Tribune, a French-language newspaper out of Morocco, reports the International Business Times <http://www.ibtimes.com/angola-bans-islam-dismantles-mosques-according-news-reports-1483660> .

La Nouvelle Tribune observed that a minaret on an Angolan mosque had been removed previously. Also, in the small city of Zango, not far from the capital of Luanda, government officials reportedly destroyed a mosque.

The Moroccan paper quoted Angola’s minister of culture, Rosa Cruz e Silva, for details.

“The process of legalization of Islam has not been approved by the Ministry of Justice and Human Rights,” Cruz e Silva said. “Their mosques would be closed until further notice.”

The ban, which includes an order to destroy all mosques in the country, isn’t specific to Islam, according to India Today <http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/angola-first-country-to-ban-islam-muslims-mosques-demolished/1/326414.html> . Other faiths which don’t meet government approval will face the same restrictions.

“All sects on the list published by the Ministry of Justice and Human Rights in the Angolan newspaper ‘Jornal de Angola’ are prohibited to conduct worship, so they should keep their doors closed,” Cruz e Silva was quoted by as saying by the Cameroon Voice.

It’s not clear which other religions are included.

Other government officials firmly agreed with the culture minister.

Bento Francisco Bento, governor of the country’s Luanda province, has declared that radical Muslims are “not welcome in Angola.”

“This is the final end of Islamic influence in our country,” added Angola’s President José Eduardo dos Santos.

According to the CIA’s World Factbook <https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ao.html> , the people of Angola are mostly a mix of local tribes. There’s a very small minority of Europeans. There’s also a healthy 22 percent representation from ethnic groups called “other.”

About 50 percent of the people in Angola practice indigenous religious beliefs. Roman Catholics make up 38 percent of the population. Protestants make up 15 percent.

To whatever extent adherents of Islam are living among the 18 million or so inhabitants in Angola, then, the population is by all accounts very small.

Portuguese is the official language of Angola. The country is slightly less than twice the size of Texas.

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Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/25/angola-bans-islam-will-demolish-all-mosques/#ixzz2litMvktg 



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