[Rushtalk] demolish all mosques

John A. Quayle blueoval57 at verizon.net
Sat Nov 30 17:03:41 MST 2013


At 10:18 AM 11/30/2013, Stephen A. Frye wrote:


>Can't find where I mentioned the Crusades.

         You are correct......you DIDN'T! I'm 
just trying to get a handle on where you're 
coming from with this argument.........
jaq

>That aside, the Holy Wars.  Hmmm.
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>From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com 
>[mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] On Behalf Of John A. Quayle
>Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 7:19 PM
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>At 08:29 PM 11/29/2013, Stephen A. Frye wrote:
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>Not a tangent.  History shows that for some many 
>countable number of years, Christians were quite 
>willing to torture and kill, along with their own enablers.
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>          Well, the Medieval Crusades were done 
> from a defensive standpoint. Christians were 
> abused by Muslim Turks. 
> <http://historymedren.about.com/od/crusades/p/crusadesbasics.htm>http://historymedren.about.com/od/crusades/p/crusadesbasics.htm 
> Is this what you're referring to, Stephen?
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>That aside, what do you propose?
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>Execute ALL Muslims. Outlaw Islam? What about 
>the millions of law abiding Islamists? Will they 
>just be collateral damage? What's your suggestion?
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>From: 
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>[ mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Putnam
>Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 7:58 PM
>To: <mailto:rushtalk at csdco.com>rushtalk at csdco.com
>Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] demolish all mosques
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>Don't go off on a tangent on me. We hare talking 
>about those that have proven their willingness 
>to kill along with their enablers.
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>On 11/28/2013 10:06 PM, Stephen A. Frye wrote:
>Agreed.  Nor does “turn the other cheekâ€Â 
>mean we we can kill those we believe *may* do us 
>harm.  So whom do we kill under the doctrine of 
>“self-defenseâ€Â?  Anyone and and everyone 
>that̢۪s the same color, or the same me 
>religion, or whatever as those who have killed 
>before?  Those innocents who have died as result 
>of “collateral l damageâ€Â in our war on 
>terror may harbor the same sentiment.  May they 
>start killing us in self-defense?  Where would this ever stop?  I wonder?
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>From: 
><mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com>rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com 
>[mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Putnam
>Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 5:11 PM
>To: <mailto:rushtalk at csdco.com>rushtalk at csdco.com
>Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] demolish all mosques
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>I don't know about waving the flag of 
>Christianity but I'm sure "turn the other cheek' 
>was not intended to mean allow yourself to be 
>killed. Self defense is a logical extension of the right to life.
>On 11/28/2013 11:07 AM, Stephen A. Frye wrote:
>I don̢۪t deny that, Dennis.  So maybe we 
>should ld just kill them all while proudly 
>waving the banner of our Christianity.  I am 
>sure that̢۪s what Our ur Loving Savior has 
>always intended.  He died for our freedom to do that.
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>From: 
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>[mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Putnam
>Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 6:20 AM
>To: <mailto:rushtalk at csdco.com>rushtalk at csdco.com
>Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] demolish all mosques
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>On 11/27/2013 7:34 PM, Stephen A. Frye wrote:
>The inquisition come to mind.
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>The cutting off of native American̢۪s earlobes 
>for not converting to to Christianity comes to 
>mind.  The denying medical treatment to those 
>who wouldn̢۪t convert to Christianity comes to to mind.
>Hardly valid comparisons (note: I'd rather have 
>my earlobe cut off then beheaded or fed feet 
>first into a chipper or thrown off a 2nd story 
>building multiple times until I died). And when 
>those incidents happened, were there world wide 
>celebrations in the streets by Christians? That 
>is the difference. I would bet that 
>condemnations of those incidents exceeded or at 
>least equaled celebrations. Unlike the opposite from world wide Muslims.
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>Just to name a few.
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>Religious fanatics aren̢۪t limited ed to any single denomination.
>I never said they were. What I tried to say, and 
>obviously failed, is that Muslims are the only 
>set of fanatics that declared open war on 
>non-Muslims and whose vast non-fantaical 
>majority celebrate in the streets when 
>non-Muslims are senselessly slaughtered. And no 
>where, it seems, is there any open condemnation.
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>From: 
><mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com>rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com 
>[mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Putnam
>Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 5:12 PM
>To: <mailto:rushtalk at csdco.com>rushtalk at csdco.com
>Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] demolish all mosques
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>I understand your basic point but I think you 
>missed Steven's. I know of no incident of 
>Christians, unprovoked, murdering 3000 innocent 
>people because they didn't like their religion 
>or way of life. Perhaps if you do you can tell 
>me about it and bring me closer into line with your thinking.
>On 11/26/2013 7:50 PM, Stephen A. Frye wrote:
>Freedom of religion Рas long as it̢۪s ours.
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>We̢۪re no better than an those we eschew.  Not one damned bit.
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>From: 
><mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com>rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com 
>[mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] On Behalf Of John A. Quayle
>Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:47 PM
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>At 04:50 PM 11/26/2013, you wrote:
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>From: Paf Dvorak 
><<mailto:notmyname at thatswaytoomuch.info> notmyname at thatswaytoomuch.info>
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>Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:36 PM
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>At 05:06 AM 11/26/2013 -0800, Steven Laib wrote:
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>If true, they are way ahead of us.
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>Did you miss the part where they're outlawing *other* religions?
>Apparently, I did.  That part I don't hold 
>with.  Islam is a violent political cult, not a religion in my opinion.
>Others don't have that label in my book.
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>From: Paf Dvorak 
><<mailto:notmyname at thatswaytoomuch.info> notmyname at thatswaytoomuch.info>
>To: <mailto:rushtalk at csdco.com>rushtalk at csdco.com
>Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 10:35 PM
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>Angola bans Islam, will demolish all mosques
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>Angola bans Islam, will demolish all mosques
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>9:02 AM 11/25/2013
><http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/25/angola-bans-islam-will-demolish-all-mosques/> 
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>A number of newspapers in the region are 
>reporting that the Republic of Angola has 
>outlawed Islam, apparently in an effort to 
>thwart the spread of Muslim radicalism in the country.
>Among them was La Nouvelle Tribune, a 
>French-language newspaper out of Morocco, 
><http://www.ibtimes.com/angola-bans-islam-dismantles-mosques-according-news-reports-1483660>reports 
>the International Business Times.
>La Nouvelle Tribune observed that a minaret on 
>an Angolan mosque had been removed previously. 
>Also, in the small city of Zango, not far from 
>the capital of Luanda, government officials reportedly destroyed a mosque.
>The Moroccan paper quoted Angola’s minister 
>of culture, Rosa Cruz e e Silva, a, for details.
>“The process of legalization of f f Islam 
>has not been approved by the Ministry of Justice 
>and Human Rights,â€Ã‚ Cruz e Silva said. 
>“Their mosques would be closed until further r r notice.â€Ã‚
>The ban, which includes an order to destroy all 
>mosques in the country, isn’t ¢t specific 
>to to Islam, 
><http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/angola-first-country-to-ban-islam-muslims-mosques-demolished/1/326414.html>according 
>to India Today. Other faiths which don’t 
>meet et et government approval will face the same restrictions.
>“All sects on the list t t published by the 
>Ministry of Justice and Human Rights in the 
>Angolan newspaper ‘Jornal de e Angola’ 
>„¢ ‚‰„¢ are prohibited to conduct worship, 
>p, so they should keep their doors 
>closed,â€Ã‚ Cruz e Silva was quoted by as saying by the Cameroon Voice.
>It’s not clear which other er er religions are included.
>Other government officials firmly agreed with the culture minister.
>Bento Francisco Bento, governor of the 
>country’s Luanda province, has declared ed 
>that at radical Muslims are “not welcome in n n Angola.â€Ã‚
>“This is the the final end of f Islamic 
>influence in our country,â€Ã‚ added 
>Angola’s President nt José Eduardo do dos Santos.
><https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ao.html>According 
>to the CIA’s World ld ld Factbook, the 
>people of Angola are mostly a mix of local 
>tribes. There’s a very small minority of 
>Europeans. s. s. There’s also a healthy 22 
>percent nt representation on from ethnic groups called “other.â€Ã‚
>About 50 percent ent of the people in Angola 
>practice indigenous religious beliefs. Roman 
>Catholics make up 38 percent of the population. Protestants make up 15 percent.
>To whatever extent adherents of Islam are living 
>among the 18 million or so inhabitants in 
>Angola, then, the population is by all accounts very small.
>Portuguese is the official language of Angola. 
>The country is slightly less than twice the size of Texas.
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>Read more: 
><http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/25/angola-bans-islam-will-demolish-all-mosques/#ixzz2litMvktg>http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/25/angola-bans-islam-will-demolish-all-mosques/#ixzz2litMvktg 
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