[Rushtalk] Is Homosexuality an Addiction Like Alcoholism?

Richard Whitenight rwhitenight2004 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 15 12:45:13 MDT 2014


John, didn't you hear? It was a comet, that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah
:-).

On Tuesday, July 15, 2014, John A. Quayle <blueoval57 at verizon.net> wrote:

>  At 10:50 PM 7/14/2014, Stephen A. Frye wrote:
>
> You are agreeing with what someone else is claiming, without real data.
> If there is conclusive data that homosexuality is DNA related, I don't
> think it's wide spread.  On the other hand, that it's choice is even less
> evidenced by data. It is extremely complex.  Recall, too, that well over
> 90% of our DNA is exact to the apes and other life forms.  Human breeding
> doesn't change that.  In fact, there simply are many orders of magnitude
> too few DNA pairs to dictate the trillions and trillions of neural pathways
> in our brain.  How all of those form is still leaps and bounds beyond our
> so limited comprehension.
>
> As for homosexuality, I won't take any bait on that argument.  Period.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Stephen, if it's a "naturally occurring thing", then why did God destroy
> Sodom and Gomorrah?  -  jaq *
>
> I work with DNA analysis all day, every day.  And my knowledge of it barely
> scratches the surface.  From what I have read here, I doubt any of us has
> sufficient knowledge to scientifically debate the issue.  AS I wrote, I
> can't delve into it, and I work with it every day.  I find myself doubting
> you have much more knowledge that that as a law student.
>
> The causes/reasons for homosexuality will likely never be fully determined,
> and if they are, it won't matter.  Politics will out over science.  It is
> incumbent on conservatives to believe it is a choice, thus allowing
> pointing
> the finger of accusation and condemnation.  It is incumbent on liberals to
> point to the other extreme in order to point the finger of accusation and
> condemnation for others' lack of tolerance.  In reality, I doubt either
> side
> truly wants to know the answer.  Each is far more comfortable in their
> present beliefs and likely to disbelieve any data to the contrary -
> pointing
> simply to the politics of any claim (much like what we see and hear today).
>
> By the way, sickle-cell anemia and trait are not the simple result of the
> combining of recessive genes, they are the result of mutant genes.
>
> Keep studying.  It's a fascinating field.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com');> [
> mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com');>] On
> Behalf Of Steven Laib
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 5:59 PM
> To: Rushtalk Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Is Homosexuality an Addiction Like Alcoholism?
>
> If I am wrong, please explain why.  Otherwise you look as if you are making
> a statement out of thin air.
>
> Of course, you might be referring to a recessive gene that hides between
> generations, but doesn't show itself unless it is a double positive, as is
> the case with sickle cell trait vs. sickle cell anemia.  But the people who
> were touting this theory when I encountered it in San Fran were going with
> the theory that it only required a single gene and was a dominant trait.
>
> So, maybe I do know something about genetics.
>
> SDL
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> > On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:05 PM, "Stephen A. Frye" <s.frye at verizon.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','s.frye at verizon.net');>> wrote:
> >
> > You may know a lot about law, but obviously little or nothing about
> genetics.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com');> [
> mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com');>] On
> Behalf Of Steven Laib
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 2:17 PM
> > To: Rushtalk Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Is Homosexuality an Addiction Like Alcoholism?
> >
> > You all may recall when the theory was floated that it was genetic. Of
> course, that makes no sense in that it would have bred out of the
> population
> generations ago for failure to reproduce itself, or would be so rare as to
> be rarely seen.
> >
> > I'm thinking that there is a likely psychological predisposition because
> of events of one's youth, bad role models, or such things.
> >
> > Then, if one acts on the predisposition addiction may follow.
> >
> > As a sidelight on this, my father was an alcoholic.  I drink alcohol on
> occasion, but always keep myself under control, and make sure that I never
> drink too much.  If homosexuality is an addiction, it may account for the
> promiscuity that pervades much of that population.
> >
> > The dysfunctions that have become so common in today's population my be
> responsible for the higher number of people predisposed to this addiction.
>
> >
> > SDL
> > --------------------------------------------
> > On Mon, 7/14/14, John <blueoval57 at verizon.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','blueoval57 at verizon.net');>> wrote:
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Is Homosexuality an Addiction Like Alcoholism?
> > To: "Rushtalk Discussion List" <rushtalk at csdco.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rushtalk at csdco.com');>>
> > Date: Monday, July 14, 2014, 4:10 PM
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 05:33 -0700, Tom  Matiska wrote:>> Interesting
> that
> Perry was comparing  his  predisposition toward alcohol to the
> predisposition many  have
> > toward gay behavior.   I wonder f the light scattering of
> > gasps
> > from the San Fransisco audience were from the few who  actually
> understood what he was saying?  Tom
> >
> >  On Sun Jul 13 14:44:52 CDT 2014, Carl William  Spitzer IV
> >
> >> Addictions in all
> > forms are curable and for the gay
> >> community this
> > is so
> > much a threat that in California its
> >> illegal to
> > advertise treatments for homosexuality.
> >
> > Guess
> > what, kiddies......this means they really KNOW that  they  are committing
> fraud! - jaq  >  > CWSIV>> >> > >  >
> _______________________________________________>
> > Rushtalk mailing list> Rushtalk at csdco.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Rushtalk at csdco.com');>>
>  http://kalos.csdco.com/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk>
> >
> > -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rushtalk mailing list
> > Rushtalk at csdco.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Rushtalk at csdco.com');>
> > http://kalos.csdco.com/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rushtalk mailing list
> > Rushtalk at csdco.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Rushtalk at csdco.com');>
> > http://kalos.csdco.com/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rushtalk mailing list
> > Rushtalk at csdco.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Rushtalk at csdco.com');>
> > http://kalos.csdco.com/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk
> _______________________________________________
> Rushtalk mailing list
> Rushtalk at csdco.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Rushtalk at csdco.com');>
>  http://kalos.csdco.com/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk
>
> _______________________________________________
> Rushtalk mailing list
> Rushtalk at csdco.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Rushtalk at csdco.com');>
>  http://kalos.csdco.com/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk
>
>

-- 
Regards,
Richard Whitenight
Arlington, Texas

Twitter:  @rwhitenight0648

My e-mail is being maintained by the NSA, CIA, FBI, and the Department of
Homeland Security.  You can't get better secure e-mail than that.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://kalos.csdco.com/pipermail/rushtalk/attachments/20140715/f371993d/attachment.html 


More information about the Rushtalk mailing list