[Rushtalk] Is Homosexuality an Addiction Like Alcoholism?

Steven Laib stevenlaib at sbcglobal.net
Tue Jul 15 12:46:40 MDT 2014


I don't know.  I've been there and didn't see any signs of an impact crater.  Maybe we were misinformed.  

SDL


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On Tue, 7/15/14, Richard Whitenight <rwhitenight2004 at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Is Homosexuality an Addiction Like Alcoholism?
 To: "Rushtalk Discussion List" <rushtalk at csdco.com>
 Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2014, 1:45 PM
 
 John, didn't you
 hear? It was a comet, that destroyed Sodom and
 Gomorrah :-).
 
 On Tuesday,
 July 15, 2014, John A. Quayle <blueoval57 at verizon.net>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 At 10:50 PM 7/14/2014, Stephen A. Frye wrote:
 
 You are agreeing with what
 someone else is claiming, without real data.  If there is
 conclusive
 data that homosexuality is DNA related, I don't think
 it's wide
 spread.  On the other hand, that it's choice is even
 less evidenced
 by data. It is extremely complex.  Recall, too, that well
 over 90%
 of our DNA is exact to the apes and other life forms. 
 Human
 breeding doesn't change that.  In fact, there simply
 are many orders
 of magnitude too few DNA pairs to dictate the trillions and
 trillions of
 neural pathways in our brain.  How all of those form is
 still leaps
 and bounds beyond our so limited comprehension.
 
 
 As for homosexuality, I won't take any bait on that
 argument. 
 Period.
 
         
 Stephen,
 if it's a
 "naturally occurring thing", then why did God
 destroy Sodom and
 Gomorrah?  -  jaq
 
 
 
 
 I work with DNA
 analysis all day, every day.  And my knowledge of it
 barely
 
 scratches the surface.  From what I have read here, I doubt
 any of
 us has
 
 sufficient knowledge to scientifically debate the issue. 
 AS I
 wrote, I
 
 can't delve into it, and I work with it every day.  I
 find myself
 doubting
 
 you have much more knowledge that that as a law student.
 
 
 The causes/reasons for homosexuality will likely never be
 fully
 determined,
 
 and if they are, it won't matter.  Politics will out
 over
 science.  It is
 
 incumbent on conservatives to believe it is a choice, thus
 allowing
 pointing
 
 the finger of accusation and condemnation.  It is incumbent
 on
 liberals to
 
 point to the other extreme in order to point the finger of
 accusation
 and
 
 condemnation for others' lack of tolerance.  In
 reality, I doubt
 either side
 
 truly wants to know the answer.  Each is far more
 comfortable in
 their
 
 present beliefs and likely to disbelieve any data to the
 contrary -
 pointing
 
 simply to the politics of any claim (much like what we see
 and hear
 today).
 
 
 By the way, sickle-cell anemia and trait are not the simple
 result of
 the
 
 combining of recessive genes, they are the result of mutant
 genes.
 
 
 Keep studying.  It's a fascinating field.
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 
 From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com
 [
 mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] On
 
 Behalf Of Steven Laib
 
 Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 5:59 PM
 
 To: Rushtalk Discussion List
 
 Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Is Homosexuality an Addiction Like
 Alcoholism?
 
 
 If I am wrong, please explain why.  Otherwise you look as
 if you are
 making
 
 a statement out of thin air.  
 
 
 Of course, you might be referring to a recessive gene that
 hides
 between
 
 generations, but doesn't show itself unless it is a
 double positive, as
 is
 
 the case with sickle cell trait vs. sickle cell anemia. 
 But the
 people who
 
 were touting this theory when I encountered it in San Fran
 were going
 with
 
 the theory that it only required a single gene and was a
 dominant
 trait.  
 
 
 So, maybe I do know something about genetics.  
 
 
 SDL
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 
 
 
 > On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:05 PM, "Stephen A.
 Frye"
 <s.frye at verizon.net> wrote:
 
 > 
 
 > You may know a lot about law, but obviously little or
 nothing
 about
 
 genetics.
 
 > 
 
 > -----Original Message-----
 
 > From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com
 [
 mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] On
 
 Behalf Of Steven Laib
 
 > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 2:17 PM
 
 > To: Rushtalk Discussion List
 
 > Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Is Homosexuality an Addiction
 Like
 Alcoholism?
 
 > 
 
 > You all may recall when the theory was floated that it
 was genetic.
 Of
 
 course, that makes no sense in that it would have bred out
 of the
 population
 
 generations ago for failure to reproduce itself, or would be
 so rare as
 to
 
 be rarely seen.  
 
 > 
 
 > I'm thinking that there is a likely psychological
 predisposition
 because
 
 of events of one's youth, bad role models, or such
 things. 
 
 > 
 
 > Then, if one acts on the predisposition addiction may
 follow. 
 
 
 > 
 
 > As a sidelight on this, my father was an alcoholic.  I
 drink
 alcohol on
 
 occasion, but always keep myself under control, and make
 sure that I
 never
 
 drink too much.  If homosexuality is an addiction, it may
 account
 for the
 
 promiscuity that pervades much of that population.  
 
 > 
 
 > The dysfunctions that have become so common in
 today's population my
 be
 
 responsible for the higher number of people predisposed to
 this
 addiction.
 
 
 > 
 
 > SDL
 
 > --------------------------------------------
 
 > On Mon, 7/14/14, John <blueoval57 at verizon.net> wrote:
 
 > 
 
 > Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Is Homosexuality an Addiction
 Like
 Alcoholism?
 
 > To: "Rushtalk Discussion List"
 <rushtalk at csdco.com>
 
 > Date: Monday, July 14, 2014, 4:10 PM
 
 > 
 
 > 
 
 >> On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 05:33 -0700, Tom  Matiska
 wrote:>> Interesting that
 
 Perry was comparing  his  predisposition toward alcohol to
 the
 
 predisposition many  have 
 
 > toward gay behavior.   I wonder f the light
 scattering
 of
 
 > gasps
 
 > from the San Fransisco audience were from the few who 
 actually
 
 understood what he was saying?  Tom
 
 > 
 
 >  On Sun Jul 13 14:44:52 CDT 2014, Carl William 
 Spitzer
 IV  
 
 > 
 
 >> Addictions in all
 
 > forms are curable and for the gay
 
 >> community this
 
 > is so
 
 > much a threat that in California its
 
 >> illegal to
 
 > advertise treatments for homosexuality.
 
 > 
 
 > Guess
 
 > what, kiddies......this means they really KNOW that 
 they 
 are committing
 
 fraud! - jaq  >  > CWSIV>> >> >
 > 
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