[Rushtalk] Is Homosexuality an Addiction Like Alcoholism?

Richard Whitenight rwhitenight2004 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 15 17:11:26 MDT 2014


Stephen, please give the list a warning when you're going to use big words
:-)

On Tuesday, July 15, 2014, Stephen A. Frye <s.frye at verizon.net> wrote:

> We have three MD's in the family.  I usually don't ask them anything.  But
> I
> do work with capillary electrophoresis for separations of compounds and DNA
> analysis in tissue.  Our DNA work is currently headed in the forensics
> direction.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com <javascript:;> [mailto:
> rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com <javascript:;>] On
> Behalf Of Steven Laib
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 8:01 PM
> To: Rushtalk Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Is Homosexuality an Addiction Like Alcoholism?
>
> I'm no longer a law student.  Graduated years ago.  Most of mty knowledge
> of
> biology and medicine came from my late uncle who was a medical professor at
> the University of Kansas.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> > On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:50 PM, "Stephen A. Frye" <s.frye at verizon.net
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > You are agreeing with what someone else is claiming, without real
> > data.  If there is conclusive data that homosexuality is DNA related,
> > I don't think it's wide spread.  On the other hand, that it's choice
> > is even less evidenced by data. It is extremely complex.  Recall, too,
> > that well over 90% of our DNA is exact to the apes and other life
> > forms.  Human breeding doesn't change that.  In fact, there simply are
> > many orders of magnitude too few DNA pairs to dictate the trillions
> > and trillions of neural pathways in our brain.  How all of those form
> > is still leaps and bounds beyond our so limited comprehension.
> >
> > As for homosexuality, I won't take any bait on that argument.  Period.
> >
> > I work with DNA analysis all day, every day.  And my knowledge of it
> > barely scratches the surface.  From what I have read here, I doubt any
> > of us has sufficient knowledge to scientifically debate the issue.  AS
> > I wrote, I can't delve into it, and I work with it every day.  I find
> > myself doubting you have much more knowledge that that as a law student.
> >
> > The causes/reasons for homosexuality will likely never be fully
> > determined, and if they are, it won't matter.  Politics will out over
> > science.  It is incumbent on conservatives to believe it is a choice,
> > thus allowing pointing the finger of accusation and condemnation.  It
> > is incumbent on liberals to point to the other extreme in order to
> > point the finger of accusation and condemnation for others' lack of
> > tolerance.  In reality, I doubt either side truly wants to know the
> > answer.  Each is far more comfortable in their present beliefs and
> > likely to disbelieve any data to the contrary - pointing simply to the
> politics of any claim (much like what we see and hear today).
> >
> > By the way, sickle-cell anemia and trait are not the simple result of
> > the combining of recessive genes, they are the result of mutant genes.
> >
> > Keep studying.  It's a fascinating field.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com <javascript:;> [mailto:
> rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com <javascript:;>]
> > On Behalf Of Steven Laib
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 5:59 PM
> > To: Rushtalk Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Is Homosexuality an Addiction Like Alcoholism?
> >
> > If I am wrong, please explain why.  Otherwise you look as if you are
> > making a statement out of thin air.
> >
> > Of course, you might be referring to a recessive gene that hides
> > between generations, but doesn't show itself unless it is a double
> > positive, as is the case with sickle cell trait vs. sickle cell
> > anemia.  But the people who were touting this theory when I
> > encountered it in San Fran were going with the theory that it only
> required a single gene and was a dominant trait.
> >
> > So, maybe I do know something about genetics.
> >
> > SDL
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:05 PM, "Stephen A. Frye" <s.frye at verizon.net
> <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> You may know a lot about law, but obviously little or nothing about
> > genetics.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com <javascript:;> [mailto:
> rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com <javascript:;>]
> >> On
> > Behalf Of Steven Laib
> >> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 2:17 PM
> >> To: Rushtalk Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Is Homosexuality an Addiction Like Alcoholism?
> >>
> >> You all may recall when the theory was floated that it was genetic.
> >> Of
> > course, that makes no sense in that it would have bred out of the
> > population generations ago for failure to reproduce itself, or would
> > be so rare as to be rarely seen.
> >>
> >> I'm thinking that there is a likely psychological predisposition
> >> because
> > of events of one's youth, bad role models, or such things.
> >>
> >> Then, if one acts on the predisposition addiction may follow.
> >>
> >> As a sidelight on this, my father was an alcoholic.  I drink alcohol
> >> on
> > occasion, but always keep myself under control, and make sure that I
> > never drink too much.  If homosexuality is an addiction, it may
> > account for the promiscuity that pervades much of that population.
> >>
> >> The dysfunctions that have become so common in today's population my
> >> be
> > responsible for the higher number of people predisposed to this
> addiction.
> >
> >>
> >> SDL
> >> --------------------------------------------
> >> On Mon, 7/14/14, John <blueoval57 at verizon.net <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Is Homosexuality an Addiction Like Alcoholism?
> >> To: "Rushtalk Discussion List" <rushtalk at csdco.com <javascript:;>>
> >> Date: Monday, July 14, 2014, 4:10 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 05:33 -0700, Tom  Matiska wrote:>> Interesting
> >>> that
> > Perry was comparing  his  predisposition toward alcohol to the
> > predisposition many  have
> >> toward gay behavior.   I wonder f the light scattering of
> >> gasps
> >> from the San Fransisco audience were from the few who  actually
> > understood what he was saying?  Tom
> >>
> >> On Sun Jul 13 14:44:52 CDT 2014, Carl William  Spitzer IV
> >>
> >>> Addictions in all
> >> forms are curable and for the gay
> >>> community this
> >> is so
> >> much a threat that in California its
> >>> illegal to
> >> advertise treatments for homosexuality.
> >>
> >> Guess
> >> what, kiddies......this means they really KNOW that  they  are
> >> committing
> > fraud! - jaq  >  > CWSIV>> >> > >  >
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