[Rushtalk] Is Homosexuality an Addiction Like Alcoholism?

John A. Quayle blueoval57 at verizon.net
Wed Jul 16 13:13:31 MDT 2014


At 02:45 PM 7/15/2014, Richard Whitenight wrote:
>John, didn't you hear? It was a comet, that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah :-).

         Well, at least it wasn't George W. Bush................


>On Tuesday, July 15, 2014, John A. Quayle 
><<mailto:blueoval57 at verizon.net>blueoval57 at verizon.net> wrote:
>At 10:50 PM 7/14/2014, Stephen A. Frye wrote:
>>You are agreeing with what someone else is 
>>claiming, without real data.  If there is 
>>conclusive data that homosexuality is DNA 
>>related, I don't think it's wide spread.  On 
>>the other hand, that it's choice is even less 
>>evidenced by data. It is extremely 
>>complex.  Recall, too, that well over 90% of 
>>our DNA is exact to the apes and other life 
>>forms.  Human breeding doesn't change 
>>that.  In fact, there simply are many orders 
>>of magnitude too few DNA pairs to dictate the 
>>trillions and trillions of neural pathways in 
>>our brain.  How all of those form is still 
>>leaps and bounds beyond our so limited comprehension.
>>
>>As for homosexuality, I won't take any bait on that argument.  Period.
>
>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  Stephen, if it's a "naturally 
>occurring thing", then why did God destroy Sodom and Gomorrah?  -  jaq
>
>
>>I work with DNA analysis all day, every day.  And my knowledge of it barely
>>scratches the surface.  From what I have read here, I doubt any of us has
>>sufficient knowledge to scientifically debate the issue.  AS I wrote, I
>>can't delve into it, and I work with it every day.  I find myself doubting
>>you have much more knowledge that that as a law student.
>>
>>The causes/reasons for homosexuality will likely never be fully determined,
>>and if they are, it won't matter.  Politics will out over science.  It is
>>incumbent on conservatives to believe it is a choice, thus allowing pointing
>>the finger of accusation and condemnation.  It is incumbent on liberals to
>>point to the other extreme in order to point the finger of accusation and
>>condemnation for others' lack of tolerance.  In reality, I doubt either side
>>truly wants to know the answer.  Each is far more comfortable in their
>>present beliefs and likely to disbelieve any data to the contrary - pointing
>>simply to the politics of any claim (much like what we see and hear today).
>>
>>By the way, sickle-cell anemia and trait are not the simple result of the
>>combining of recessive genes, they are the result of mutant genes.
>>
>>Keep studying.  It's a fascinating field.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com [ mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] On
>>Behalf Of Steven Laib
>>Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 5:59 PM
>>To: Rushtalk Discussion List
>>Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Is Homosexuality an Addiction Like Alcoholism?
>>
>>If I am wrong, please explain why.  Otherwise you look as if you are making
>>a statement out of thin air.Â
>>
>>Of course, you might be referring to a recessive gene that hides between
>>generations, but doesn't show itself unless it is a double positive, as is
>>the case with sickle cell trait vs. sickle cell anemia.  But the people who
>>were touting this theory when I encountered it in San Fran were going with
>>the theory that it only required a single gene and was a dominant trait.Â
>>
>>So, maybe I do know something about genetics.Â
>>
>>SDL
>>
>>Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:05 PM, "Stephen A. Frye" <s.frye at verizon.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > You may know a lot about law, but obviously little or nothing about
>>genetics.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com [ mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] On
>>Behalf Of Steven Laib
>> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 2:17 PM
>> > To: Rushtalk Discussion List
>> > Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Is Homosexuality an Addiction Like Alcoholism?
>> >
>> > You all may recall when the theory was floated that it was genetic. Of
>>course, that makes no sense in that it would have bred out of the population
>>generations ago for failure to reproduce itself, or would be so rare as to
>>be rarely seen.Â
>> >
>> > I'm thinking that there is a likely psychological predisposition because
>>of events of one's youth, bad role models, or such things.
>> >
>> > Then, if one acts on the predisposition addiction may follow.Â
>> >
>> > As a sidelight on this, my father was an alcoholic.  I drink alcohol on
>>occasion, but always keep myself under control, and make sure that I never
>>drink too much.  If homosexuality is an addiction, it may account for the
>>promiscuity that pervades much of that population.Â
>> >
>> > The dysfunctions that have become so common in today's population my be
>>responsible for the higher number of people predisposed to this addiction.
>>
>> >
>> > SDL
>> > --------------------------------------------
>> > On Mon, 7/14/14, John <blueoval57 at verizon.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Is Homosexuality an Addiction Like Alcoholism?
>> > To: "Rushtalk Discussion List" <rushtalk at csdco.com>
>> > Date: Monday, July 14, 2014, 4:10 PM
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 05:33 -0700, 
>> Tom  Matiska wrote:>> Interesting that
>>Perry was comparing  his  predisposition toward alcohol to the
>>predisposition many  have
>> > toward gay behavior.   I wonder f the light scattering of
>> > gasps
>> > from the San Fransisco audience were from the few who  actually
>>understood what he was saying?  Tom
>> >
>> >  On Sun Jul 13 14:44:52 CDT 2014, Carl William  Spitzer IVÂ
>> >
>> >> Addictions in all
>> > forms are curable and for the gay
>> >> community this
>> > is so
>> > much a threat that in California its
>> >> illegal to
>> > advertise treatments for homosexuality.
>> >
>> > Guess
>> > what, kiddies......this means they really 
>> KNOW that  they  are committing
>>fraud! - jaq  >  > CWSIV>> >> > >  >
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