[Rushtalk] No Can Do!

Stephen A. Frye s.frye at verizon.net
Sun May 18 13:03:49 MDT 2014


While I still tend to agree on the intrusion issue, Western European educational standards are indeed dictated at the fed level, and those countries are leaving us in the dust as far as scientific education is concerned.

 

From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com [mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] On Behalf Of Tom Matiska
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Bingo on the intrusion.  Dept of Education did not exist in my time nor did its predecessor HEW exist during my parents school years.  What to teach and how to teach it was discussed at local school board and PTA meetings, not dictated from above. Tom   

 

 

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From: Dennis Putnam <dap1 at bellsouth.net>
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As a professional tutor, I can tell you it is crap and my opinion has nothing to do with inertia. That being said, the real problem with it is more intrusion from the federal government. When the US led the world in education was when the local school districts had the most control. As an aside, I've also read the history requirements. It is pure unadulterated, progressive indoctrination by way of revised history.

On 5/17/2014 3:55 PM, Stephen A. Frye wrote:

All of this, yes, and I think a far more comprehensive approach.

 

The biggest problem is that it’s a change, and people resist change.

 

From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com [mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] On Behalf Of Paf Dvorak
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I think what Americans don't 'get' is that this common core teaching/learning method isn't to be used to cypher EVERY math question one runs across, but rather attempts to teach the kids how to think...or another way to think.





At 06:48 AM 5/17/2014 -0700, Stephen A. Frye wrote:

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I am not so sure it’s all bad.  No doubt, it is confusing, but only because the approach to teaching/learning is different.  Different does not automatically make it bad.
 
Here in the U.S>, we teach the various areas of math discreetly:  algebra, geometry, trig, etc.  Most of western Europe doesn’t do that.  They teach mathematical concepts the encompass all of those areas and slowly and steadily move to more and more difficult concepts.
 
When our new exchange students arrive here in August, most of them juniors, they are leaps and bounds ahead of their American peers.  Most of them can move straight into AP Calculus, and still encounter little new material.
 
Our two juniors, one from Germany and one from Denmark, just took the Common Core practice tests.  The American kids were all complaining they were the hardest tests they had ever taken.  Our students told us they were doing that math in the 7th and 8th grades.
 
From: rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com [ mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com <mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com> ] On Behalf Of Bernard L Willis
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 9:31 PM
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My State (IN.) is dropping it.  
 
BW
 
On Fri, 16 May 2014 23:13:48 -0400 "John A. Quayle" <blueoval57 at verizon.net > writes:

Common core is becoming a "common nightmare" - even for college students. Take a look:

         http://eaglerising.com/6195/common-core-math-confuses-college-students/ 

 

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