[Rushtalk] George Will on Why Ron Paul is Right About Foreign Policy and RINO Mitt Romney is Wrong

Steven Laib stevenlaib at sbcglobal.net
Thu Aug 20 15:28:19 MDT 2015

You make a good point.  The issue carries an underlying assumption that 
social welfare spending savers or betters life.
I would suggest that some does, but a lot does not in the end. 
Therefore, the premise may not be universally applicable.


On 8/20/15 4:20 PM, Stephen A. Frye wrote:
> I agree with the underlying principle of your post.  At the same time, 
> I question our willingness – and even lust – to spend money to take 
> life, but balk at spending to save it or better it.  We’re an odd 
> species.  We fight very hard for our right to kill each other.
> *From:*rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com [mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] 
> *On Behalf Of *Steven Laib
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2015 5:54 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] George Will on Why Ron Paul is Right About 
> Foreign Policy and RINO Mitt Romney is Wrong
> The problem is that if we weren't spending horrendous amounts of money 
> on social welfare then the budget would not be anywhere near as 
> troubled by the military spending.
> IMO, Military spending is constitutionally mandated.  Social welfare 
> is not and may not even be permitted.
> Just my two cents.
> On 8/17/15 11:00 PM, Carl Spitzer wrote:
>     *George Will on Why Ron Paul is Right About Foreign Policy and
>     Mitt Romney is Wrong*
>     /Writes/George Will:
>     Few things so embitter a nation as squandered valor, hence
>     Americans, with much valor spent there, want Iraq to master its
>     fissures. But with America in the second decade of its longest
>     war, the probable Republican nominee is promising to extend it
>     indefinitely.
>     Mitt Romney opposes negotiations with the Taliban while they “are
>     killing our soldiers.” Which means: No negotiations until the war
>     ends, when there will be nothing about which to negotiate…
>     *The U.S. defense budget is about 43% of the world’s total
>     military spending ­ more than the combined defense spending of the
>     next 17 nations*, many of which are U.S. allies. *Are Republicans
>     really going to warn voters that America will be imperiled if the
>     defense budget is cut 8% from projections over the next decade? In
>     2017, defense spending would still be more than that of the next
>     10 countries.*
>     *Do Republicans think it is premature to withdraw up to 7,000
>     troops from Europe two decades after the Soviet Union’s
>     death?*About 73,000 will remain, most of them in prosperous,
>     pacific, largely unarmed and utterly unthreatened Germany. Why do
>     so many remain?
>     *Since 2001, the United States has waged war in three nations, and
>     some Republicans appear ready to bring the total to five, adding
>     Iran and Syria.*(/The Weekly Standard/, of neoconservative bent,
>     regrets that Obama “is reluctant to intervene to oust Iran’s
>     closest ally, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.”) *GOP critics say
>     Obama’s proposed defense cuts will limit America’s ability to
>     engage in troop-intensive nation-building. Most Americans probably
>     say: Good…*
>     Romney says: “It is unacceptable for Iran to have a nuclear
>     weapon…” (Leon) Panetta says Iran acquiring nuclear weapons is
>     “unacceptable” and “a red line for us” and if “we get intelligence
>     that they are proceeding with developing a nuclear weapon, then we
>     will take whatever steps necessary to stop it.”
>     *What, then, is the difference between Romney and Obama regarding
>     Iran?*
>     *Osama bin Laden and many other “high-value targets” are dead, the
>     drone war is being waged more vigorously than ever, and Guantanamo
>     is still open,*so Republicans can hardly say Obama has implemented
>     dramatic and dangerous discontinuities regarding counterterrorism.
>     Obama says that even with his proposed cuts, the defense budget
>     would increase at about the rate of inflation through the next decade.
>     *Republicans who think America is being endangered by
>     “appeasement” and military parsimony have worked that pedal on
>     their organ quite enough.*
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