[Rushtalk] Got My answer

John A. Quayle blueoval57 at verizon.net
Fri Feb 6 17:39:34 MST 2015

         Answering this nonsense: 

>         After reading Jim Greenwood's diatribe 
> on "the public interest" on Sunday, February 1, 
> 2015, I feel it's rather obvious Mr. Greenwood 
> has no clue about socialism's destructiveness. 
> As with nearly all of his tomes to this 
> newspaper, he speaks of a "fear and ignorance 
> of socialism" within the body of his missive. 
> Unfortunately, the "ignorance of socialism" is 
> all his own. Socialism has NOTHING to do with 
> self-government, despite his claim, nor did it 
> begin with the American Revolution.
>         Socialism's origins began with the 
> French Revolution of 1789. The movement sought 
> to eliminate the rights, personal property, and 
> sovereignty of the individual, replacing them 
> with the "rights of the collective", 
> administered by an all-powerful government. The 
> Framers of the American Constitution were as 
> dead-set against socialism as one could get. 
> These men would today be referred to as 
> "libertarians" - seeking to preserve maximum 
> freedom and rights of the sovereign individual, 
> rather than a bloated collective bureaucracy. 
> Let's examine some of the Founding Fathers' quotes on the topic.
>         "I place economy among the first and 
> most important virtues, and public debt as the 
> greatest of dangers to be feared. To preserve 
> our independence, we must not let our rulers 
> load us with perpetual debt. If we run into 
> such debts, we must be taxed in our meat and 
> drink, in our necessities and in our comforts, 
> in our labor and in our amusements." - Thomas Jefferson
>         "Beware the greedy hand of government 
> thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry." - Thomas Paine
>         "Government is instituted to protect 
> property of every sort; as well that which lies 
> in the various rights of individuals, as that 
> which the term particularly expresses. This 
> being the end of government, that alone is a 
> just government which impartially secures to 
> every man whatever is his own."  James Madison, Essay on Property, 1792
>         "To take from one, because it is 
> thought his own industry and that of his 
> fathers has acquired too much, in order to 
> spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have 
> not exercised equal industry and skill, is to 
> violate arbitrarily the first principle of 
> association, the guarantee to everyone the free 
> exercise of his industry and the fruits 
> acquired by it."  Thomas Jefferson, letter to Joseph Milligan, April 6, 1816
>         Vladimir Lenin opined of socialism, 
> "without big banks, socialism would be 
> impossible." Most people like to think of big 
> banks as "capitalist" institutions, but that is 
> not really accurate. In the end, giant 
> corporate banks like we have in the United 
> States are actually collectivist institutions. 
> They tend to greatly concentrate wealth and 
> power, and socialists find those kinds of banks very useful.
>         Does that sound to you, the reader, 
> like the concept is "in the public interest"? 
> It sure doesn't to me. Mr. Greenwood goes on to 
> to mention "a Supreme Court decision in 1819, 
> formally establishing the public interest as 
> guiding principle in making federal law." 
> Personally, I could find no such decision made 
> by the Supreme Court that particular year, any 
> before, or after that same year, that involved 
> those words or anything close to those thoughts. The Supreme Court ruled on "
>McCulloch v. Maryland" in 1819 - largely a 
>banking/economic case. I'll let the reader do 
>some homework on the decision in the interest of saving column space here.
>         Mr. Greenwood also mentions that "North 
> Korea and Cuba, two of the world's poorest 
> nations, have universal education and 
> healthcare, most important components of 
> governments that serve the public interest." 
> Mr. Greenwood fails to mention that both 
> countries - despite calling themselves 
> 'socialist' - are in reality Communist. Karl 
> Marx and Frederich Engels wrote in "Kommunist 
> Manifesto" in 1848 that their vision was to use 
> socialism as an "on-ramp" into Communist 
> take-overs of sovereign nations. Ayn Rand, the 
> Russian-born philosopher, once wrote of 
> socialism, "there is no difference between 
> Communism and Socialism, except in the means of 
> achieving the same ultimate end. Communism 
> proposes to enslave men by force. Socialism - 
> by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide."
>         The Holy Father, Pope Pius XII, spoke 
> of Socialism, "The Church Will Fight Socialism 
> to the End. [The Church undertook] the 
> protection of the individual and the family 
> against a current threatening to bring about a 
> total socialization which in the end would make 
> the specter of the 'Leviathan' become a 
> shocking reality. The Church will fight this 
> battle to the end, for it is a question of 
> supreme values: the dignity of man and the 
> salvation of souls." (“Radio message to the 
> Katholikentag of Vienna,” September 14, 1952 
> in Discorsi e Radiomessaggi, vol. XIV, p. 314)
>         I can insert a plethora of more 
> anti-Socialism quotes made by a multitude of 
> Popes over the centuries, but you, the reader, 
> hopefully get the idea. Let no individual make 
> a the critical mistake in thinking that 
> Socialism is a benign or even beneficial form of governance.
>John A. Quayle
>North Franklin Twp.
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