[Rushtalk] RINO Marco Rubio: Being Gay Is Not A Choice

Dennis Putnam dap1 at bellsouth.net
Mon May 11 19:10:47 MDT 2015


No, my attempted focus was the constitutional implications.

On 5/11/2015 8:17 PM, Stephen A. Frye wrote:
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> I agree with your points here, but if the sanctity of marriage was the
> focus of your original post, you hid it well.
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> *On Behalf Of *Dennis Putnam
> *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2015 4:57 PM
> *To:* rushtalk at csdco.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] RINO Marco Rubio: Being Gay Is Not A Choice
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> I think you two are arguing different points. The cause of homosexual
> behavior is irrelevant to the issue I am arguing. My objection is
> usurping Holy Matrimony (aka marriage) which was established by
> religions long before the western hemisphere and even much of the
> eastern hemisphere were settled. Not by governments. Using force of
> law to change that tradition is a constitutional issue as it violates
> both the free exercise clause and freedom of speech clause. I have no
> objection to civil unions and extending the same benefits to that as
> marriage. However, homosexuals object to that as well which means
> there is a hidden agenda different from the purported one.
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> This is a very slippery slope we are starting down. The exact same
> arguments about civil rights to justify changing the millennia old
> tradition of marriage can be applied to plural marriages, incestuous
> marriage and even bestial marriage. If that doesn't sound like Sodom &
> Gomorrah I don't know what does except regardless of religion all will
> be force to accept it.
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> On 5/11/2015 6:46 PM, Stephen A. Frye wrote:
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>     BFD.  Often, over time, we, as a species, learn.  It’s an ongoing
>     process.
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>     Sometimes it pays to tenaciously hold onto our beliefs, sometimes
>     they’re not quite as right as we want them to be.
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>     *From:*rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com
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>     [mailto:rushtalk-bounces at csdco.com] *On Behalf Of *John A. Quayle
>     *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2015 1:58 PM
>     *To:* Rushtalk Discussion List; 'Rushtalk Discussion List'
>     *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] RINO Marco Rubio: Being Gay Is Not A Choice
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>     At 11:11 AM 5/10/2015, Stephen A. Frye wrote:
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>     */         Somebody ask this fool why there are no gay dogs, cats,
>     bulls, cows, sheep, and so forth.................../**/
>     Uh, actually there are according to studies done by Canadian
>     biologist Dr. Bruce Bagemihl.
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>     However, in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter.
>     Homosexual behavior is counter productive to reproduction and thus
>     abnormal. If a choice then psychiatric help is needed, to which
>     homosexuals strongly object. If genetic then research is needed to
>     correct the defect, to which homosexuals strongly object. That
>     conundrum by itself tells me homosexuals require psychiatric help
>     either way./*
>     */
>     I agree with you – up to this point.  But there is much in human
>     behavior and development that is explained neither by choice nor
>     by genetics. The formation of the trillions of neural pathways is
>     one example.  There simply aren’t enough DNA pairs to account for
>     that.
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>     I don’t know what causes homosexuality.  Frankly, I don’t care. 
>     But I don’t think, that in the complexities of human life, and
>     vastly not-understood human brain, we should limit our thinking to
>     only two possibilities./*
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>              */Homosexuality was viewed by the AMA as a "mental
>     problem" up until the very early 1970s, when the bully homosexual
>     advocates began to throw their weight around............
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>     jaq/*
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