[Rushtalk] Putin has a big problem in Syria that no one is talking about

Dennis Putnam dap1 at bellsouth.net
Sat Oct 17 06:20:42 MDT 2015

Russia is strapped financially and taking it down would be easy for
anyone with the guts. After flooding the market with our own oil, as
POTUS I'd call a summit of all the major credit cards and jawbone them
into agreeing to no long accept rubles in payment. I'd also set up
guarantees with Europe for importing US natural gas so they are not
dependent on Russia. Maybe then they will grow a backbone, although I
would not count on that in my strategy. That will decimate the Russian
economy and stop Putin in his tracks. Unfortunately the Russian people
will suffer immensely but then the citizens of any country are
ultimately responsible for their own government.

On 10/17/2015 1:59 AM, Tom Matiska wrote:
> Putin is doing more things right in Syria than we are.  Our next President has an excellent opportunity to change/correct our Syria policy and ease tensions with our former cold war foe.    Russia is an oil exporter that benefits when mid east instability drive up global oil prices.    He needs to worry about us agreeing with him.    Tom
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> "John A. Quayle" <blueoval57 at verizon.net> wrote:
>>         Does anyone else fear a war with Russia 
>> for the next U.S. President?!? I sure do!   - jaq
>> At 03:45 PM 10/15/2015, Carl Spitzer wrote:
>>> Putin has a big problem in Syria that no one is talking about
>>> Updated by 
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>>> Russian President Vladimir Putin.John Moore/Getty Images
>>> Putin has a big problem in Syria ­ one to which 
>>> Western coverage of the Russian military 
>>> intervention in Syria has not paid much attention.
>>> Namely, the intervention is not at all popular 
>>> with Russians themselves. Because Putin's 
>>> personal popularity is key to his political 
>>> longevity, that could be a very serious matter indeed for the Russian leader.
>>> A 
>>> <http://www.levada.ru/28-09-2015/voina-v-sirii-vnimanie-otsenki-igil>recent 
>>> poll by Moscow's Levada Center shows that only a 
>>> small minority of Russians support giving Bashar 
>>> al-Assad direct military support. Only 39 
>>> percent of respondents said they supported 
>>> Russia's policy toward the Assad regime. When 
>>> asked what Russia should do for Assad, 69 
>>> percent opposed direct military intervention. A 
>>> tiny 14 percent of respondents said that Russia 
>>> should send troops or other direct military support to Syria.
>>> It's clear that Putin is taking those concerns 
>>> seriously. In what seems to be an attempt to 
>>> shore up public opinion among Russians who are 
>>> worried about casualties in a faraway war, the 
>>> Kremlin has already promised that only 
>>> volunteers, not conscripts, will be sent to 
>>> Syria, and that the military intervention will consist only of airstrikes.
>>> But Putin's public opinion problems on Syria 
>>> could be just the beginning. Russia's economy is 
>>> already struggling, and a new war will be an 
>>> expensive additional burden. If Russia's 
>>> presence in Syria makes its forces a target of 
>>> terrorist attacks there, or, worse, if it 
>>> coincides with attacks at home, that could damage public opinion even further.
>>> Russians' skepticism of Putin's Syria policy is 
>>> especially stark when contrasted with the 
>>> overwhelmingly positive response to his actions 
>>> in Ukraine. That was a huge boost to Putin's 
>>> popularity, helping his regime weather Russia's 
>>> 2014 economic problems with high public support. 
>>> But the Ukraine intervention led to sanctions on 
>>> Russia, which 
>>> <http://www.vox.com/2015/7/8/8845635/putin-is-weak>proved 
>>> unpopular with the Russian elites.
>>> That's a problem for Putin, because he needs to 
>>> keep elites happy in order to maintain their 
>>> vital political support for his regime. If, as 
>>> some commentators have 
>>> <http://www.vox.com/2015/9/24/9392543/russia-syria-putin>suggested, 
>>> the Syria intervention is an attempt to gain 
>>> leverage to force the West to lift sanctions, 
>>> then Putin may find that it simply exchanges one 
>>> problem for another: Instead of public 
>>> popularity and elite frustration, he would have 
>>> happier elites but a less supportive public.
>>> And that's assuming it works, which it might 
>>> not. For one thing, it's not clear that Putin 
>>> will be able use Syria to gain leverage at all, 
>>> which could mean that he is left with a less 
>>> enthusiastic public and still has no sanctions relief to offer elites.
>>> Even if Putin does manage to pull it all off, 
>>> using his unpopular intervention in Syria as a 
>>> bargaining chip to reduce Western sanctions on 
>>> Russia, the trade-off might not be worth it.
>>> As Russian analyst 
>>> <http://www.vox.com/2015/5/6/8560977/russia-putin-nationalism>Alexander 
>>> Verkhovsky explained to me when I met with him 
>>> in Moscow last spring, Putin's popularity is his 
>>> "principal resource." As long as Putin is 
>>> popular, his position is fairly secure. But if 
>>> his popularity ratings falter, then he risks 
>>> being pushed out of office by Russian elites in 
>>> favor of someone else who can better protect 
>>> their interests ­ as Verkhovsky put it, he can 
>>> be "changed for another guy, even someone from 
>>> the same [Putinist] circle." So even if Putin is 
>>> able leverage the intervention in Syria to offer 
>>> elites the sanctions relief they want, that may 
>>> come at too high a political price.
>>> To be clear, none of this means that Syria will 
>>> be enough to overcome Putin's reportedly 
>>> sky-high approval, nor does it mean that one 
>>> unpopular Mideast adventure is going to bring 
>>> the downfall of the Putin government. But 
>>> Putin's hold on power, as solid as it might look 
>> >from the outside, isn't; it's beset by a number 
>>> of problems and, at the moment, is premised in 
>>> large part on overwhelming public support. With 
>>> elites alienated, a hit to his poll numbers is 
>>> also a hit to his basic legitimacy. That's a 
>>> precarious position to be in, particularly given 
>>> Russia's current economic downturn. No single 
>>> unpopular policy is going to bring it all 
>>> crashing down, but the point is that he's not in 
>>> a position to go gambling with his popularity, 
>>> and yet he's just done exactly that.
>>> In other words, while it may look like Putin is 
>>> pursuing a grand, brilliant gamble in Syria, the 
>>> reality is that he may have just made the worst 
>>> kind of bet: one in which he'll be the big loser 
>>> at home, no matter the outcome in Syria.
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