[Rushtalk] How many Trump products were made overseas? Here’s the complete list. - The Washington Post

Dennis Putnam dap1 at bellsouth.net
Thu Dec 22 13:22:47 MST 2016

The point people are missing is that as a business man Trump is using
good business sense. He has taken advantage of many stupid things for
the sake of his businesses which makes him smart. However, I he has also
said he plans to eliminate a lot of that stuff so no one needs to scam
the system to do business. This is the environment Democrats created and
want, now they whine about those who use it. The good old double standard.

On 12/22/2016 12:44 PM, Tom Matiska wrote:
> Throwing stones from glass houses......
> This article would be more interesting if someone named Clinton wasn't
> running against Trump.     Bill signed NAFTA after campaigning
> otherwise, made China's favored nation status permanent(annual
> approval Before Clinton), approved trade friendly amendments to GATT
> and WTO, effectively made the Port of Long Beach a Chinese port, took
> campaign donations from the Chinese via the likes of Charlie Trie,
> Johnny  Chung, John Huang, ,,....etc... etc...... etc....    Tom
> On Thursday, December 22, 2016 11:27 AM, Carl Spitzer <cwsiv at juno.com>
> wrote:
> *Perhaps  there are no available facilities in America for these
> products or because of competition he is forced to use the same
> facilities as others.  Like using illegals in his hotels as cleaning
> staff.  now he is in position to change that and force the hospitality
> industry to use citizens and at citizen wages.  Its not like these are
> Motel 6's these are very expensive facilities he runs.*
> Fact Checker <http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker>
>   *How many Trump products were made overseas? Here’s the complete list.*
> By Michelle Ye Hee Lee
> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/michelle-ye-hee-lee/> August 26
>       *Hillary Clinton: 'Shirts' | Campaign 2016*
> Play Video0:31
> /“Trump’s products have been made in 12 other countries.”/
> *— man in Clinton campaign ad, “Shirts” *
> The Hillary Clinton campaign has at least two ads attacking Donald
> Trump for outsourcing the production of his merchandise. Given Trump’s
> rhetoric against companies shipping jobs out of the United States — he
> vowed not to eat Oreo cookies anymore after Nabisco moved some U.S.
> factory jobs to Mexico — this is a frequent attack on his record as a
> businessman.
> Trump has a long history of outsourcing a variety of his products and
> has acknowledged doing so. When asked during a Republican primary
> debate in Miami why voters should trust that Trump “will run the
> country differently from how you run your businesses,” he answered:
> “Because nobody knows the system better than me. … I’m a businessman.
> These are laws. These are regulations. These are rules. We’re allowed
> to do it. … I’m the one that knows how to change it.”
> Trump also encouraged outsourcing to students of Trump University, the
> now-defunct program that is under litigation over allegations of
> fraud. In a 2005 post
> <https://web.archive.org/web/20060507011645/http://donaldtrump.trumpuniversity.com/default.asp?item=98255>
> titled “Outsourcing Creates Jobs in the Long Run,” Trump wrote that
> sending work outside your company “is not always a terrible thing.”
> “I know that doesn’t make it any easier for people whose jobs have
> been outsourced overseas, but if a company’s only means of survival is
> by farming jobs outside its walls, then sometimes it’s a necessary
> step. The other option might be to close its doors for good,” Trump
> wrote in the post.
> We searched for sources of Trump products through publicly available
> data, including online retail stores and public data of shipments at
> U.S. ports from 2007 through Aug. 17, 2016, gathered by the private
> company ImportGenius.com <https://www.importgenius.com/>. The data
> shows the last port of shipment before entering the United States
> (meaning Mexico is not included) and specifies the manufactured
> location for certain items. (Thanks to Kim Soffen, graphics reporter
> at The Washington Post, who worked with us to analyze the imports
> database. Check out her analysis of a decade of Trump’s imports
> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-products/>.)
> We took inventory below. We welcome reader suggestions for any new
> products and sources they find, and then we will update the list.
>       *The Facts*
> *Trump apparel *
> The Donald J. Trump Collection
> <https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dfashion&field-keywords=Trump+Dress+Shirts&rh=n%3A7141123011%2Ck%3ATrump+Dress+Shirts>
> includes ties, suits, dress shirts, eyeglasses and other accessories.
> Trump shirts were made in China, Bangladesh, Honduras and Vietnam.
> PolitiFact Virginia found
> <http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2016/jun/27/thomas-perez/tom-perez-erroneously-tags-all-trump-products-made/>
> some Trump sport coats made in India. The Clinton campaign pointed to
> import data from 2007 that showed a Trump men’s shirt shipment marked
> as made in South Korea.
> Some of the Trump suits on Amazon.com show they were imported, Made in
> USA or both. BuzzFeed ordered
> <https://www.amazon.com/Donald-Trump-Mens-Button-Stripe/dp/B00LP8WVKI/ref=pd_sim_sbs_309_17?ie=UTF8&refRID=15RC61CDM37NZN0E9FTN>
> a suit that was listed as both “imported” and “Made in USA” — and
> ended up with a label showing the suits were made in Indonesia.
> Users commented on Amazon.com that the suit that BuzzFeed
> purchased previously was listed as being imported from Mexico or
> China. This photo shows a Trump suit that carries a “Made in Mexico
> <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153455852936212&set=a.281103166211.188678.733516211&type=1&theater%20and%20other>”
> label.
> Manufacturing information online is not always reliable — for example,
> a photo of one shirt
> <https://www.amazon.com/Trump-Donald-Twill-Stripe-Shirt/dp/B003YUBG3I/ref=pd_sim_sbs_309_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=15RC61CDM37NZN0E9FTN>
> shows a “Made in Bangladesh” label, but the item description says it
> was made in China. This may be a reflection of the different countries
> that products sometimes pass through before they are ultimately
> shipped into the United States.
> Trump eyeglasses are made in China
> <http://www.eyeglasses.com/eyeglasses/donald-j-trump-dt-85.html>.
> Cufflinks and other accessories do not list the source of
> manufacturing on Amazon.com.
> “Success by Trump,” a cologne in the Trump Fragrance line, was
> manufactured in the United States, according to PolitiFact Virginia
> <http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2016/jun/27/thomas-perez/tom-perez-erroneously-tags-all-trump-products-made/>. The
> Trump campaign’s “Make America Great Again” hats are made at a
> Southern California factory
> <http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-trump-hats-cali-fame-carson-20151124-story.html>
> and are labeled “Proudly Made in USA
> <https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/product-p/dtc-odtrh-wh.htm>.”
> *Trump home items*
> Trump Home <http://www.trump.com/merchandise/trump-home/> has a range
> of items, including chandeliers, mirrors, bedding, table lamps,
> cabinets, sofas, barstools, cocktail tables and more.
> Trump expanded the Trump Home brand internationally, including in
> Turkey. A Trump Organization news release
> <http://www.trumphomebydorya.com/pages/trump-home-press-releases>
> shows it partnered with a global luxury furniture brand, Dorya
> International, to expand the Trump Home brand to a production facility
> in Turkey. According to Furniture Today
> <http://www.furnituretoday.com/article/524877-dorya-expands-trump-line>,
> components of the Trump by Dorya furniture were made in Germany,
> particularly the brass and stainless pieces.
> Several Trump Home items are listed as made in China or imported from
> China — mirrors, ceramic vases, wall decorations, kitchen items and
> lighting fixtures. The Clinton campaign has pointed to a trademark
> registration
> <https://www.quickcompany.in/trademarks/1624713-trump-home> for the
> Trump Home brand that shows picture frames and other home products
> were made in India.
> The Trump Home by Rogaska tabletop collection featured a crystal and
> china collection with a company based in Slovenia
> <http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/21/garden/21qna.html>. Trump bedding
> comforters <http://www.downlitebedding.com/trump-hotel-bedding> are
> listed as made in USA
> <https://www.amazon.com/Clearance-Sale-Luxury-Hypoallergenic-Comforter/dp/B00MBXX72M>.
> *Trump hotel items*
> Many hotel amenities at Trump’s hotels were manufactured overseas and
> imported. Trump Hotel pens were made in China or Taiwan, and imported
> into the United States via South Korea. Shampoo, body wash,
> moisturizers, shower caps, laundry bags, show bags, pet collars, pet
> leashes and bath towels at Trump hotels are all listed as made in China.
> *Trump beverages*
> The Trump Natural Spring Water
> <http://www.trump.com/merchandise/trump-natural-spring-water/> is served
> at Trump hotels, restaurants and golf clubs. Trump water comesfrom New
> York or Vermont
> <http://www.aquagrade.com/bottle/trump-ice-natural-spring-water/>, and
> is bottled in New York.
> Trump Vodka was manufactured
> <http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-trump-vodka/> at a distillery
> in the Netherlands, supposedly distilled five times from “European
> wheat,” but the distribution company stopped carrying it in 2010. An
> Israeli company continued to carry Trump Vodka, although the version
> sold in Israel is different from the original Trump Vodka. The Trump
> Vodka produced and sold in Israel is made from ingredients that make
> it kosher for Passover, which made it a popular beverage around the
> holidays. But the Jerusalem Post reported
> <http://www.jpost.com/Not-Just-News/Podcast/Exclusive-Some-Trump-Vodka-popular-as-kosher-for-Passover-spirit-may-not-be-kosher-450568>
> that it turned out that not all ingredients actually were kosher for
> Passover.
> Note: There’s a Trump Winery located in Charlottesville, Va., but it
> is reported to be owned by his son, Eric. The Trump Winery website
> <http://www.trumpwinery.com/legal/> says its name is a registered
> trademark of Eric Trump Wine Manufacturing, LLC. The winery
> imports glassware.
>       *The Bottom Line*
> The Clinton ad claims that “Trump’s products have been made in 12
> other countries.” This is correct. We know of at least 12 countries
> where Trump products were manufactured (China, the Netherlands,
> Mexico, India, Turkey, Slovenia, Honduras, Germany, Bangladesh,
> Indonesia, Vietnam and South Korea). Further, Trump products transited
> other countries through the packaging and shipping process — meaning
> workers in more than 12 countries contributed to getting many of
> Trump’s products made, packaged and delivered to the United States.
> As our inventory shows, manufacturing is a global process. Components
> of a product of an American company are made in different parts of the
> world, depending on who offers the most competitive prices, and
> ultimately imported into the country to be sold to American consumers.
> It’s not as simple as deciding not to eat an Oreo because Nabisco
> found a cheaper place to employ some of its workers.
> Trump’s practice as a businessman is not consistent with his current
> rhetoric against trade as a presidential nominee — this vulnerability
> is backed with more than enough factual evidence. If Trump brand
> customers took the same stance against his products as he did against
> Nabisco, it is clear they would be left with few Trump items to buy.
> However, we do know of at least four Trump products made in the United
> States: “Make America Great Again” hats, bedding, water and cologne.
> .https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/26/how-many-trump-products-were-made-overseas-heres-the-complete-list/?utm_term=.3ffa94338f62
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