[Rushtalk] How many Trump products were made overseas? Here’s the complete list. - The Washington Post

JD northgate76 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 22 14:19:36 MST 2016

I ate some "Chinese" food once that turned out to have been Made In The
USA.  It's a world of liars and scammers.  Be careful out there, friends.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Dennis Putnam <dap1 at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> The point people are missing is that as a business man Trump is using good
> business sense. He has taken advantage of many stupid things for the sake
> of his businesses which makes him smart. However, I he has also said he
> plans to eliminate a lot of that stuff so no one needs to scam the system
> to do business. This is the environment Democrats created and want, now
> they whine about those who use it. The good old double standard.
> On 12/22/2016 12:44 PM, Tom Matiska wrote:
> Throwing stones from glass houses......
> This article would be more interesting if someone named Clinton wasn't
> running against Trump.     Bill signed NAFTA after campaigning otherwise,
> made China's favored nation status permanent(annual approval Before
> Clinton), approved trade friendly amendments to GATT and WTO, effectively
> made the Port of Long Beach a Chinese port, took campaign donations from
> the Chinese via the likes of Charlie Trie, Johnny  Chung, John Huang,
> ,,....etc... etc...... etc....    Tom
> On Thursday, December 22, 2016 11:27 AM, Carl Spitzer <cwsiv at juno.com>
> <cwsiv at juno.com> wrote:
> *Perhaps  there are no available facilities in America for these products
> or because of competition he is forced to use the same facilities as
> others.  Like using illegals in his hotels as cleaning staff.  now he is in
> position to change that and force the hospitality industry to use citizens
> and at citizen wages.  Its not like these are Motel 6's these are very
> expensive facilities he runs.*
> Fact Checker <http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker> *How many
> Trump products were made overseas? Here’s the complete list.*
> By Michelle Ye Hee Lee
> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/michelle-ye-hee-lee/> August 26 *Hillary
> Clinton: 'Shirts' | Campaign 2016* Play Video0:31
> *“Trump’s products have been made in 12 other countries.”*
> *— man in Clinton campaign ad, “Shirts” *
> The Hillary Clinton campaign has at least two ads attacking Donald Trump
> for outsourcing the production of his merchandise. Given Trump’s rhetoric
> against companies shipping jobs out of the United States — he vowed not to
> eat Oreo cookies anymore after Nabisco moved some U.S. factory jobs to
> Mexico — this is a frequent attack on his record as a businessman.
> Trump has a long history of outsourcing a variety of his products and has
> acknowledged doing so. When asked during a Republican primary debate in
> Miami why voters should trust that Trump “will run the country differently
> from how you run your businesses,” he answered: “Because nobody knows the
> system better than me. … I’m a businessman. These are laws. These are
> regulations. These are rules. We’re allowed to do it. … I’m the one that
> knows how to change it.”
> Trump also encouraged outsourcing to students of Trump University, the
> now-defunct program that is under litigation over allegations of fraud. In
> a 2005 post
> <https://web.archive.org/web/20060507011645/http://donaldtrump.trumpuniversity.com/default.asp?item=98255>
> titled “Outsourcing Creates Jobs in the Long Run,” Trump wrote that sending
> work outside your company “is not always a terrible thing.”
> “I know that doesn’t make it any easier for people whose jobs have been
> outsourced overseas, but if a company’s only means of survival is by
> farming jobs outside its walls, then sometimes it’s a necessary step. The
> other option might be to close its doors for good,” Trump wrote in the post.
> We searched for sources of Trump products through publicly available data,
> including online retail stores and public data of shipments at U.S. ports
> from 2007 through Aug. 17, 2016, gathered by the private company
> ImportGenius.com <https://www.importgenius.com/>. The data shows the last
> port of shipment before entering the United States (meaning Mexico is not
> included) and specifies the manufactured location for certain items.
> (Thanks to Kim Soffen, graphics reporter at The Washington Post, who worked
> with us to analyze the imports database. Check out her analysis of a
> decade of Trump’s imports
> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-products/>.)
> We took inventory below. We welcome reader suggestions for any new
> products and sources they find, and then we will update the list.
> *The Facts* *Trump apparel *
> The Donald J. Trump Collection
> <https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dfashion&field-keywords=Trump+Dress+Shirts&rh=n%3A7141123011%2Ck%3ATrump+Dress+Shirts>
> includes ties, suits, dress shirts, eyeglasses and other accessories.
> Trump shirts were made in China, Bangladesh, Honduras and Vietnam. PolitiFact
> Virginia found
> <http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2016/jun/27/thomas-perez/tom-perez-erroneously-tags-all-trump-products-made/>
> some Trump sport coats made in India. The Clinton campaign pointed to
> import data from 2007 that showed a Trump men’s shirt shipment marked as
> made in South Korea.
> Some of the Trump suits on Amazon.com show they were imported, Made in USA
> or both. BuzzFeed ordered
> <https://www.amazon.com/Donald-Trump-Mens-Button-Stripe/dp/B00LP8WVKI/ref=pd_sim_sbs_309_17?ie=UTF8&refRID=15RC61CDM37NZN0E9FTN>
> a suit that was listed as both “imported” and “Made in USA” — and ended up
> with a label showing the suits were made in Indonesia.
> Users commented on Amazon.com that the suit that BuzzFeed
> purchased previously was listed as being imported from Mexico or China.
> This photo shows a Trump suit that carries a “Made in Mexico
> <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153455852936212&set=a.281103166211.188678.733516211&type=1&theater%20and%20other>”
> label.
> Manufacturing information online is not always reliable — for example, a photo
> of one shirt
> <https://www.amazon.com/Trump-Donald-Twill-Stripe-Shirt/dp/B003YUBG3I/ref=pd_sim_sbs_309_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=15RC61CDM37NZN0E9FTN>
> shows a “Made in Bangladesh” label, but the item description says it was
> made in China. This may be a reflection of the different countries that
> products sometimes pass through before they are ultimately shipped into the
> United States.
> Trump eyeglasses are made in China
> <http://www.eyeglasses.com/eyeglasses/donald-j-trump-dt-85.html>.
> Cufflinks and other accessories do not list the source of manufacturing on
> Amazon.com.
> “Success by Trump,” a cologne in the Trump Fragrance line, was
> manufactured in the United States, according to PolitiFact Virginia
> <http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2016/jun/27/thomas-perez/tom-perez-erroneously-tags-all-trump-products-made/>. The
> Trump campaign’s “Make America Great Again” hats are made at a Southern
> California factory
> <http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-trump-hats-cali-fame-carson-20151124-story.html>
> and are labeled “Proudly Made in USA
> <https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/product-p/dtc-odtrh-wh.htm>.”
> *Trump home items*
> Trump Home <http://www.trump.com/merchandise/trump-home/> has a range of
> items, including chandeliers, mirrors, bedding, table lamps, cabinets,
> sofas, barstools, cocktail tables and more.
> Trump expanded the Trump Home brand internationally, including in Turkey.
> A Trump Organization news release
> <http://www.trumphomebydorya.com/pages/trump-home-press-releases> shows
> it partnered with a global luxury furniture brand, Dorya International, to
> expand the Trump Home brand to a production facility in Turkey. According
> to Furniture Today
> <http://www.furnituretoday.com/article/524877-dorya-expands-trump-line>,
> components of the Trump by Dorya furniture were made in Germany,
> particularly the brass and stainless pieces.
> Several Trump Home items are listed as made in China or imported from
> China — mirrors, ceramic vases, wall decorations, kitchen items and
> lighting fixtures. The Clinton campaign has pointed to a trademark
> registration <https://www.quickcompany.in/trademarks/1624713-trump-home>
> for the Trump Home brand that shows picture frames and other home products
> were made in India.
> The Trump Home by Rogaska tabletop collection featured a crystal and china
> collection with a company based in Slovenia
> <http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/21/garden/21qna.html>. Trump bedding
> comforters <http://www.downlitebedding.com/trump-hotel-bedding> are
> listed as made in USA
> <https://www.amazon.com/Clearance-Sale-Luxury-Hypoallergenic-Comforter/dp/B00MBXX72M>
> .
> *Trump hotel items*
> Many hotel amenities at Trump’s hotels were manufactured overseas and
> imported. Trump Hotel pens were made in China or Taiwan, and imported into
> the United States via South Korea. Shampoo, body wash, moisturizers, shower
> caps, laundry bags, show bags, pet collars, pet leashes and bath towels at
> Trump hotels are all listed as made in China.
> *Trump beverages*
> The Trump Natural Spring Water
> <http://www.trump.com/merchandise/trump-natural-spring-water/> is served
> at Trump hotels, restaurants and golf clubs. Trump water comesfrom New
> York or Vermont
> <http://www.aquagrade.com/bottle/trump-ice-natural-spring-water/>, and is
> bottled in New York.
> Trump Vodka was manufactured
> <http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-trump-vodka/> at a distillery in
> the Netherlands, supposedly distilled five times from “European wheat,” but
> the distribution company stopped carrying it in 2010. An Israeli company
> continued to carry Trump Vodka, although the version sold in Israel is
> different from the original Trump Vodka. The Trump Vodka produced and sold
> in Israel is made from ingredients that make it kosher for Passover, which
> made it a popular beverage around the holidays. But the Jerusalem Post
> reported
> <http://www.jpost.com/Not-Just-News/Podcast/Exclusive-Some-Trump-Vodka-popular-as-kosher-for-Passover-spirit-may-not-be-kosher-450568>
> that it turned out that not all ingredients actually were kosher for
> Passover.
> Note: There’s a Trump Winery located in Charlottesville, Va., but it is
> reported to be owned by his son, Eric. The Trump Winery website
> <http://www.trumpwinery.com/legal/> says its name is a registered
> trademark of Eric Trump Wine Manufacturing, LLC. The winery
> imports glassware.
> *The Bottom Line* The Clinton ad claims that “Trump’s products have been
> made in 12 other countries.” This is correct. We know of at least 12
> countries where Trump products were manufactured (China, the Netherlands,
> Mexico, India, Turkey, Slovenia, Honduras, Germany, Bangladesh, Indonesia,
> Vietnam and South Korea). Further, Trump products transited other countries
> through the packaging and shipping process — meaning workers in more than
> 12 countries contributed to getting many of Trump’s products made, packaged
> and delivered to the United States.
> As our inventory shows, manufacturing is a global process. Components of a
> product of an American company are made in different parts of the world,
> depending on who offers the most competitive prices, and ultimately
> imported into the country to be sold to American consumers. It’s not as
> simple as deciding not to eat an Oreo because Nabisco found a cheaper place
> to employ some of its workers.
> Trump’s practice as a businessman is not consistent with his current
> rhetoric against trade as a presidential nominee — this vulnerability is
> backed with more than enough factual evidence. If Trump brand customers
> took the same stance against his products as he did against Nabisco, it is
> clear they would be left with few Trump items to buy. However, we do know
> of at least four Trump products made in the United States: “Make America
> Great Again” hats, bedding, water and cologne.
> .https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/
> 08/26/how-many-trump-products-were-made-overseas-heres-the-
> complete-list/?utm_term=.3ffa94338f62
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