[Rushtalk] How many Trump products were made overseas? Here’s the complete list. - The Washington Post

Tom Matiska tom.matiska at att.net
Thu Dec 22 15:35:30 MST 2016

You mean my French Toast wasn't imported???  Tom
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JD <northgate76 at gmail.com> wrote:

>I ate some "Chinese" food once that turned out to have been Made In The
>USA.  It's a world of liars and scammers.  Be careful out there, friends.
>On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Dennis Putnam <dap1 at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> The point people are missing is that as a business man Trump is using good
>> business sense. He has taken advantage of many stupid things for the sake
>> of his businesses which makes him smart. However, I he has also said he
>> plans to eliminate a lot of that stuff so no one needs to scam the system
>> to do business. This is the environment Democrats created and want, now
>> they whine about those who use it. The good old double standard.
>> On 12/22/2016 12:44 PM, Tom Matiska wrote:
>> Throwing stones from glass houses......
>> This article would be more interesting if someone named Clinton wasn't
>> running against Trump.     Bill signed NAFTA after campaigning otherwise,
>> made China's favored nation status permanent(annual approval Before
>> Clinton), approved trade friendly amendments to GATT and WTO, effectively
>> made the Port of Long Beach a Chinese port, took campaign donations from
>> the Chinese via the likes of Charlie Trie, Johnny  Chung, John Huang,
>> ,,....etc... etc...... etc....    Tom
>> On Thursday, December 22, 2016 11:27 AM, Carl Spitzer <cwsiv at juno.com>
>> <cwsiv at juno.com> wrote:
>> *Perhaps  there are no available facilities in America for these products
>> or because of competition he is forced to use the same facilities as
>> others.  Like using illegals in his hotels as cleaning staff.  now he is in
>> position to change that and force the hospitality industry to use citizens
>> and at citizen wages.  Its not like these are Motel 6's these are very
>> expensive facilities he runs.*
>> Fact Checker <http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker> *How many
>> Trump products were made overseas? Here’s the complete list.*
>> By Michelle Ye Hee Lee
>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/michelle-ye-hee-lee/> August 26 *Hillary
>> Clinton: 'Shirts' | Campaign 2016* Play Video0:31
>> *“Trump’s products have been made in 12 other countries.”*
>> *— man in Clinton campaign ad, “Shirts” *
>> The Hillary Clinton campaign has at least two ads attacking Donald Trump
>> for outsourcing the production of his merchandise. Given Trump’s rhetoric
>> against companies shipping jobs out of the United States — he vowed not to
>> eat Oreo cookies anymore after Nabisco moved some U.S. factory jobs to
>> Mexico — this is a frequent attack on his record as a businessman.
>> Trump has a long history of outsourcing a variety of his products and has
>> acknowledged doing so. When asked during a Republican primary debate in
>> Miami why voters should trust that Trump “will run the country differently
>> from how you run your businesses,” he answered: “Because nobody knows the
>> system better than me. … I’m a businessman. These are laws. These are
>> regulations. These are rules. We’re allowed to do it. … I’m the one that
>> knows how to change it.”
>> Trump also encouraged outsourcing to students of Trump University, the
>> now-defunct program that is under litigation over allegations of fraud. In
>> a 2005 post
>> <https://web.archive.org/web/20060507011645/http://donaldtrump.trumpuniversity.com/default.asp?item=98255>
>> titled “Outsourcing Creates Jobs in the Long Run,” Trump wrote that sending
>> work outside your company “is not always a terrible thing.”
>> “I know that doesn’t make it any easier for people whose jobs have been
>> outsourced overseas, but if a company’s only means of survival is by
>> farming jobs outside its walls, then sometimes it’s a necessary step. The
>> other option might be to close its doors for good,” Trump wrote in the post.
>> We searched for sources of Trump products through publicly available data,
>> including online retail stores and public data of shipments at U.S. ports
>> from 2007 through Aug. 17, 2016, gathered by the private company
>> ImportGenius.com <https://www.importgenius.com/>. The data shows the last
>> port of shipment before entering the United States (meaning Mexico is not
>> included) and specifies the manufactured location for certain items.
>> (Thanks to Kim Soffen, graphics reporter at The Washington Post, who worked
>> with us to analyze the imports database. Check out her analysis of a
>> decade of Trump’s imports
>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-products/>.)
>> We took inventory below. We welcome reader suggestions for any new
>> products and sources they find, and then we will update the list.
>> *The Facts* *Trump apparel *
>> The Donald J. Trump Collection
>> <https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dfashion&field-keywords=Trump+Dress+Shirts&rh=n%3A7141123011%2Ck%3ATrump+Dress+Shirts>
>> includes ties, suits, dress shirts, eyeglasses and other accessories.
>> Trump shirts were made in China, Bangladesh, Honduras and Vietnam. PolitiFact
>> Virginia found
>> <http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2016/jun/27/thomas-perez/tom-perez-erroneously-tags-all-trump-products-made/>
>> some Trump sport coats made in India. The Clinton campaign pointed to
>> import data from 2007 that showed a Trump men’s shirt shipment marked as
>> made in South Korea.
>> Some of the Trump suits on Amazon.com show they were imported, Made in USA
>> or both. BuzzFeed ordered
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Donald-Trump-Mens-Button-Stripe/dp/B00LP8WVKI/ref=pd_sim_sbs_309_17?ie=UTF8&refRID=15RC61CDM37NZN0E9FTN>
>> a suit that was listed as both “imported” and “Made in USA” — and ended up
>> with a label showing the suits were made in Indonesia.
>> Users commented on Amazon.com that the suit that BuzzFeed
>> purchased previously was listed as being imported from Mexico or China.
>> This photo shows a Trump suit that carries a “Made in Mexico
>> <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153455852936212&set=a.281103166211.188678.733516211&type=1&theater%20and%20other>”
>> label.
>> Manufacturing information online is not always reliable — for example, a photo
>> of one shirt
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Trump-Donald-Twill-Stripe-Shirt/dp/B003YUBG3I/ref=pd_sim_sbs_309_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=15RC61CDM37NZN0E9FTN>
>> shows a “Made in Bangladesh” label, but the item description says it was
>> made in China. This may be a reflection of the different countries that
>> products sometimes pass through before they are ultimately shipped into the
>> United States.
>> Trump eyeglasses are made in China
>> <http://www.eyeglasses.com/eyeglasses/donald-j-trump-dt-85.html>.
>> Cufflinks and other accessories do not list the source of manufacturing on
>> Amazon.com.
>> “Success by Trump,” a cologne in the Trump Fragrance line, was
>> manufactured in the United States, according to PolitiFact Virginia
>> <http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2016/jun/27/thomas-perez/tom-perez-erroneously-tags-all-trump-products-made/>. The
>> Trump campaign’s “Make America Great Again” hats are made at a Southern
>> California factory
>> <http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-trump-hats-cali-fame-carson-20151124-story.html>
>> and are labeled “Proudly Made in USA
>> <https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/product-p/dtc-odtrh-wh.htm>.”
>> *Trump home items*
>> Trump Home <http://www.trump.com/merchandise/trump-home/> has a range of
>> items, including chandeliers, mirrors, bedding, table lamps, cabinets,
>> sofas, barstools, cocktail tables and more.
>> Trump expanded the Trump Home brand internationally, including in Turkey.
>> A Trump Organization news release
>> <http://www.trumphomebydorya.com/pages/trump-home-press-releases> shows
>> it partnered with a global luxury furniture brand, Dorya International, to
>> expand the Trump Home brand to a production facility in Turkey. According
>> to Furniture Today
>> <http://www.furnituretoday.com/article/524877-dorya-expands-trump-line>,
>> components of the Trump by Dorya furniture were made in Germany,
>> particularly the brass and stainless pieces.
>> Several Trump Home items are listed as made in China or imported from
>> China — mirrors, ceramic vases, wall decorations, kitchen items and
>> lighting fixtures. The Clinton campaign has pointed to a trademark
>> registration <https://www.quickcompany.in/trademarks/1624713-trump-home>
>> for the Trump Home brand that shows picture frames and other home products
>> were made in India.
>> The Trump Home by Rogaska tabletop collection featured a crystal and china
>> collection with a company based in Slovenia
>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/21/garden/21qna.html>. Trump bedding
>> comforters <http://www.downlitebedding.com/trump-hotel-bedding> are
>> listed as made in USA
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Clearance-Sale-Luxury-Hypoallergenic-Comforter/dp/B00MBXX72M>
>> .
>> *Trump hotel items*
>> Many hotel amenities at Trump’s hotels were manufactured overseas and
>> imported. Trump Hotel pens were made in China or Taiwan, and imported into
>> the United States via South Korea. Shampoo, body wash, moisturizers, shower
>> caps, laundry bags, show bags, pet collars, pet leashes and bath towels at
>> Trump hotels are all listed as made in China.
>> *Trump beverages*
>> The Trump Natural Spring Water
>> <http://www.trump.com/merchandise/trump-natural-spring-water/> is served
>> at Trump hotels, restaurants and golf clubs. Trump water comesfrom New
>> York or Vermont
>> <http://www.aquagrade.com/bottle/trump-ice-natural-spring-water/>, and is
>> bottled in New York.
>> Trump Vodka was manufactured
>> <http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-trump-vodka/> at a distillery in
>> the Netherlands, supposedly distilled five times from “European wheat,” but
>> the distribution company stopped carrying it in 2010. An Israeli company
>> continued to carry Trump Vodka, although the version sold in Israel is
>> different from the original Trump Vodka. The Trump Vodka produced and sold
>> in Israel is made from ingredients that make it kosher for Passover, which
>> made it a popular beverage around the holidays. But the Jerusalem Post
>> reported
>> <http://www.jpost.com/Not-Just-News/Podcast/Exclusive-Some-Trump-Vodka-popular-as-kosher-for-Passover-spirit-may-not-be-kosher-450568>
>> that it turned out that not all ingredients actually were kosher for
>> Passover.
>> Note: There’s a Trump Winery located in Charlottesville, Va., but it is
>> reported to be owned by his son, Eric. The Trump Winery website
>> <http://www.trumpwinery.com/legal/> says its name is a registered
>> trademark of Eric Trump Wine Manufacturing, LLC. The winery
>> imports glassware.
>> *The Bottom Line* The Clinton ad claims that “Trump’s products have been
>> made in 12 other countries.” This is correct. We know of at least 12
>> countries where Trump products were manufactured (China, the Netherlands,
>> Mexico, India, Turkey, Slovenia, Honduras, Germany, Bangladesh, Indonesia,
>> Vietnam and South Korea). Further, Trump products transited other countries
>> through the packaging and shipping process — meaning workers in more than
>> 12 countries contributed to getting many of Trump’s products made, packaged
>> and delivered to the United States.
>> As our inventory shows, manufacturing is a global process. Components of a
>> product of an American company are made in different parts of the world,
>> depending on who offers the most competitive prices, and ultimately
>> imported into the country to be sold to American consumers. It’s not as
>> simple as deciding not to eat an Oreo because Nabisco found a cheaper place
>> to employ some of its workers.
>> Trump’s practice as a businessman is not consistent with his current
>> rhetoric against trade as a presidential nominee — this vulnerability is
>> backed with more than enough factual evidence. If Trump brand customers
>> took the same stance against his products as he did against Nabisco, it is
>> clear they would be left with few Trump items to buy. However, we do know
>> of at least four Trump products made in the United States: “Make America
>> Great Again” hats, bedding, water and cologne.
>> .https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/
>> 08/26/how-many-trump-products-were-made-overseas-heres-the-
>> complete-list/?utm_term=.3ffa94338f62
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