[Rushtalk] ACA and Single Payer Healthcare

Richard Whitenight rwhitenight2004 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 27 22:01:17 MST 2016


"Why would Obama want 'single prayer' healthcare?"

"No Miss Latella, that's 'single payer', not 'single prayer'."

"Oh, I'm sorry; that's different. I was wrong."

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 22:48 John Quayle <blueoval57 at verizon.net> wrote:

>                     *Obamacare was designed as a trainwreck in order to
> shove single payer down our collective throats as a panacea. If you think
> you've lost choices under Obamacare (and you have), just wait until it's
> single payer............*
>
> On 11/27/2016 8:49 PM, Carl Spitzer wrote:
>
> *From*: Lew Wolfgang <wolfgang at sweet-haven.com
> <Lew%20Wolfgang%20%3cwolfgang at sweet-haven.com%3e>>
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Health insurance open season is upon us (in the US) and I now know that our premium is going up 9.9% over last year.  I checked the records and my 2017 premium is 245% more than 2009.  That's a bit more than the inflation rate...
>
> What has gone horribly wrong?  The Affordable Care Act was presented as being "affordable", wasn't it?  Now we read that premiums will go up 116% in Arizona for a typical customer in 2017.
> http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/10/25/arizona-obamacare-premiums/
>
> Amazing, but predicted.  This whole mess comes as no surprise
> to people studying ACA with a critical mind.   Even Bill Clinton
> was quoted as saying.  ACA is "the craziest thing in the world!"
> http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/04/politics/bill-clinton-obamacare-craziest-thing/
>
> "So you've got this crazy system where all of a sudden 25 million more people
> have health care and then the people who are out there busting it, sometimes
> 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut
> in half. It's the craziest thing in the world," Clinton said."  Bill Clinton
>
> This doesn't even mention the co-pays and out-of-pocket costs going up under
> ADA to confiscatory levels.
>
> ACA was predicted to fail when it was crammed down the nation's throat, a
> prediction that is now finally coming to fruition.   Indeed, it was designed
> to fail.  But why?  Because the blame can be shifted to the insurance
> companies and people will clamor for complete government intervention
> to implement a single-payer national healthcare system.  This was, after
> all, obama's original self-proclaimed goal.
> http://www.pnhp.org/news/2008/june/barack_obama_on_sing.php
>
> Now that it's established that the goal has always been single-payer and
> that the well-being of the citizenry was used as a stepping stone to achieve it,
> maybe we can discuss single-payer?
>
> What would single-payer healthcare look like?  Would it be panacea or
> pain in the ass?
>
> Regards,
> Lew
>
>
>
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