[Rushtalk] ACA and Single Payer Healthcare

John Quayle blueoval57 at verizon.net
Sun Nov 27 22:16:06 MST 2016


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On 11/28/2016 12:01 AM, Richard Whitenight wrote:
> "Why would Obama want 'single prayer' healthcare?" "No Miss Latella, 
> that's 'single payer', not 'single prayer'." "Oh, I'm sorry; that's 
> different. I was wrong."
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 22:48 John Quayle <blueoval57 at verizon.net 
> <mailto:blueoval57 at verizon.net>> wrote:
>
>     /*Obamacare was designed as a trainwreck in order to shove single
>     payer down our collective throats as a panacea. If you think
>     you've lost choices under Obamacare (and you have), just wait
>     until it's single payer............*/
>
>
>     On 11/27/2016 8:49 PM, Carl Spitzer wrote:
>>     *From*: Lew Wolfgang <wolfgang at sweet-haven.com
>>     <mailto:Lew%20Wolfgang%20%3cwolfgang at sweet-haven.com%3e>>
>>
>>     Hi Folks,
>>
>>     Health insurance open season is upon us (in the US) and I now know that our premium is going up 9.9% over last year.  I checked the records and my 2017 premium is 245% more than 2009.  That's a bit more than the inflation rate...
>>
>>     What has gone horribly wrong?  The Affordable Care Act was presented as being "affordable", wasn't it?  Now we read that premiums will go up 116% in Arizona for a typical customer in 2017.
>>
>>     http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/10/25/arizona-obamacare-premiums/
>>
>>     Amazing, but predicted.  This whole mess comes as no surprise
>>     to people studying ACA with a critical mind.   Even Bill Clinton
>>     was quoted as saying.  ACA is "the craziest thing in the world!"
>>
>>     http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/04/politics/bill-clinton-obamacare-craziest-thing/
>>
>>     "So you've got this crazy system where all of a sudden 25 million more people
>>     have health care and then the people who are out there busting it, sometimes
>>     60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut
>>     in half. It's the craziest thing in the world," Clinton said."  Bill Clinton
>>
>>     This doesn't even mention the co-pays and out-of-pocket costs going up under
>>     ADA to confiscatory levels.
>>
>>     ACA was predicted to fail when it was crammed down the nation's throat, a
>>     prediction that is now finally coming to fruition.   Indeed, it was designed
>>     to fail.  But why?  Because the blame can be shifted to the insurance
>>     companies and people will clamor for complete government intervention
>>     to implement a single-payer national healthcare system.  This was, after
>>     all, obama's original self-proclaimed goal.
>>
>>     http://www.pnhp.org/news/2008/june/barack_obama_on_sing.php
>>
>>     Now that it's established that the goal has always been single-payer and
>>     that the well-being of the citizenry was used as a stepping stone to achieve it,
>>     maybe we can discuss single-payer?
>>
>>     What would single-payer healthcare look like?  Would it be panacea or
>>     pain in the ass?
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     Lew
>>
>>
>>
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