From cwsiv at juno.com Fri Apr 1 11:05:54 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2022 10:05:54 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: <1648832754.628.4.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Tue, 2022-03-29 at 20:35 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: > Certainly hope that doesn?t happen. > you want civil war?? I know its coming but only Trump can post pone it.. Without Trumps return there will be no trust in the elections or any other institution of America. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Fri Apr 1 11:08:46 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2022 10:08:46 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: > Yes you do. He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish > some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented > resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence. His fault? > No. But it will be real. I am sickened by the hatred in this country. > I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by > Barrack Obama. Even so, it exploded during the trump years. Biden is > still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait > for another Trump term. I would much rather elect a President who > will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America. Ill take the hate and division. I want no unity with our domestic enemies. If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not. Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy. And we will keep our freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Fri Apr 1 12:32:28 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2022 11:32:28 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1464103642.1469986.1648662348990@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1648837948.628.10.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 18:13 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: > I agree with most of what you write here. I am not entirely on board > with the driving concept of good vs evil. That aside, the base hatred > in this country pushing us to the brink collapse. I am far less > concerned about what Trump might do than I am about the reactions to > what Trump might do. You mention progressive tyranny and their hatred > for everything we do? Yes, it was incremental. And we stood by and > watched it happen. We are now stuck with the consequences. I believe > we ALL need to learn to work and live together, rather than trying to > force everyone else to our way of thinking. We can point our finger > anywhere we Freedom can not live with tyranny. We have seen with the Fauci Ouchie and missuse of emergency powers that there is no longer any unity possible in America. We must either restore freedom or loose it. Freedoms enemies may not be defeated easily or peacefully depending upon the return of The True President Trump. If Trump fails or is killed then there will not be peaceful reform in America ever again. Compromising with evil has brought us to this situation where its peace or war. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Fri Apr 1 13:02:18 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 19:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: <1648832754.628.4.camel@linux-7k5b.site> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648832754.628.4.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: <1338273430.625602.1648839738153@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Agreed................ -----Original Message----- From: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 1:05 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Tue, 2022-03-29 at 20:35 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Certainly hope that doesn?t happen. you want civil war??? I know its coming but only Trump can post pone it.. Without Trumps return there will be no trust in the elections or any other institution of America. | -- Carl? Spitzer ? ___????????????? _???????????????????????????????????? ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? ()????? o??????????????????? |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_?? |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? |? ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /|?????????? ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \|?? Democrat is SIN and TREASON | _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Fri Apr 1 13:45:18 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 19:45:18 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_n?= =?windows-1252?q?ot_have_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=91I_know_Put?= =?windows-1252?q?in_very_well=92?= In-Reply-To: <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do. He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence. His fault? No. But it will be real. I am sickened by the hatred in this country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama. Even so, it exploded during the trump years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term. I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America. Ill take the hate and division. I want no unity with our domestic enemies. If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not. Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy. And we will keep our freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Fri Apr 1 13:53:15 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 19:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. ?This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well??On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do.? He is too controversial.? He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence.? His fault?? No. But it will be real.? I am sickened by the hatred in this country.? I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama.? Even so, it exploded during the trump years.? Biden is still fueling it.? If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term.? I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America.? Ill take the hate and division.? I want no unity with our domestic enemies.? If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not.? Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy.? And we will keep our freedom. | -- Carl? Spitzer ? ___????????????? _???????????????????????????????????? ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? ()????? o??????????????????? |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_?? |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? |? ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /|?????????? ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \|?? Democrat is SIN and TREASON | _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Fri Apr 1 15:49:25 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 21:49:25 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_n?= =?windows-1252?q?ot_have_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=91I_know_Put?= =?windows-1252?q?in_very_well=92?= In-Reply-To: <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: What?s reality? That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? And we?ll starve them out? And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. And we know we are the ones in the right, right? God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. The new commandment. So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do. He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence. His fault? No. But it will be real. I am sickened by the hatred in this country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama. Even so, it exploded during the trump years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term. I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America. Ill take the hate and division. I want no unity with our domestic enemies. If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not. Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy. And we will keep our freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Fri Apr 1 17:29:05 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 23:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? ?That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? ?And we?ll starve them out? ?And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. ?To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. ?Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. ?Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. ?And we know we are the ones in the right, right? ?God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? ?Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? ?All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. ?Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. ?The new commandment. ?So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. ?This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well??On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do.? He is too controversial.? He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence.? His fault?? No. But it will be real.? I am sickened by the hatred in this country.? I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama.? Even so, it exploded during the trump years.? Biden is still fueling it.? If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term.? I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America.? Ill take the hate and division.? I want no unity with our domestic enemies.? If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not.? Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy.? And we will keep our freedom. | -- Carl? Spitzer ? ___????????????? _???????????????????????????????????? ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? ()????? o??????????????????? |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_?? |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? |? ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /|?????????? ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \|?? Democrat is SIN and TREASON | _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Fri Apr 1 18:31:36 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 00:31:36 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_n?= =?windows-1252?q?ot_have_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=91I_know_Put?= =?windows-1252?q?in_very_well=92?= In-Reply-To: <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creatir will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. Right? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? And we?ll starve them out? And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. And we know we are the ones in the right, right? God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. The new commandment. So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do. He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence. His fault? No. But it will be real. I am sickened by the hatred in this country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama. Even so, it exploded during the trump years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term. I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America. Ill take the hate and division. I want no unity with our domestic enemies. If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not. Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy. And we will keep our freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Fri Apr 1 18:45:56 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 00:45:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - with SOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there's NO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. ?There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. ?Right? ?We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. ?We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me ?world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. ?You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't.THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? ?That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? ?And we?ll starve them out? ?And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. ?To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. ?Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. ?Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. ?And we know we are the ones in the right, right? ?God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? ?Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? ?All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. ?Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. ?The new commandment. ?So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. ?This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well??On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do.? He is too controversial.? He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence.? His fault?? No. But it will be real.? I am sickened by the hatred in this country.? I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama.? Even so, it exploded during the trump years.? Biden is still fueling it.? If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term.? I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America.? Ill take the hate and division.? I want no unity with our domestic enemies.? If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not.? Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy.? And we will keep our freedom. | -- Carl? Spitzer ? ___????????????? _???????????????????????????????????? ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? ()????? o??????????????????? |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_?? |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? |? ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /|?????????? ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \|?? Democrat is SIN and TREASON | _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Fri Apr 1 19:42:53 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 01:42:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1891450557.708766.1648863773943@mail.yahoo.com> -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. ?But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. ?Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. ?There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. ?We are just as guilty. ?And God stop it? ?I think God is counting on it. ?It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. ?Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. ?There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creatir will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. ?Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. ?Right? ?We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. ?I believe such was never the intention - of hope. ?But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. ?We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. ?It?s a me me me ?world. ?I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. ?Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. ?But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right?? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Stephen, I'm just curious........what do you suggest we do here? Fall on our swords, for example? Plead "mea culpa maxima"? What is YOUR solution? I revert back to a prior statement that in these times, we're seeing a battle of good and evil. Human trafficking (particularly childhood sex trafficking), abortion, mass tyranny (think "Great Reset"), America is involved in funding/operating biowarfare labs in Ukraine and Taiwan.........the list goes on. The left DESPISES us for even pointing this stuff out. These issues are merely the tip of the proverbial iceberg. Where is there room for "compromise" and how do we achieve that? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed.? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? No, the only "failure" here is not standing up for what's right - no matter what kind of hatred and violence we face. Who said, "evil only prevails when good men do nothing"? Can you not agree? Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't.THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? ?That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? ?And we?ll starve them out? ?And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. ?To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. ?Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. ?Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. ?And we know we are the ones in the right, right? ?God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? ?Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? ?All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. ?Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. ?The new commandment. ?So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. ?This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well??On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do.? He is too controversial.? He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence.? His fault?? No. But it will be real.? I am sickened by the hatred in this country.? I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama.? Even so, it exploded during the trump years.? Biden is still fueling it.? If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term.? I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America.? Ill take the hate and division.? I want no unity with our domestic enemies.? If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not.? Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy.? And we will keep our freedom. | -- Carl? Spitzer ? ___????????????? _???????????????????????????????????? ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? ()????? o??????????????????? |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_?? |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? |? ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /|?????????? ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \|?? Democrat is SIN and TREASON | _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Sat Apr 2 08:31:26 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2022 07:31:26 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1464103642.1469986.1648662348990@mail.yahoo.com> <1150270813.53923.1648670548434@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1648909886.14228.22.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 20:05 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: > Your question here is a red herring to the original issue. You see > the issue, so do I. You think Trump can fix it, I do not. In fact, I > believe his presence in the administration will make it worse. With > Trump in office, people will dig in their heels even deeper and more > firmly. That will solve nothing. It will solve the problem of seeing who are Americas domestic enemies the RINO scum and Democrats who obstruct the reforms Trump can and has implemented plus the undoing of the mess made by the fraud Democrats put up. No more hiding in plain site even the dumbest mush brain republican who turned against Ron Paul because freedom can not win will have to see the truth finally that Freedom aka Trump can win and restore freedom as long as elections are honest. Entrenches enemies are left without escape trapped in the fortifications made of their lies and diversions. We will see them for what they are so we know who to remove from office. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Sat Apr 2 08:34:13 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2022 07:34:13 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: <245546027.48647.1648671276434@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1464103642.1469986.1648662348990@mail.yahoo.com> <1150270813.53923.1648670548434@mail.yahoo.com> <245546027.48647.1648671276434@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1648910053.14228.25.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 20:14 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: > Let me spell it out for you........they hate Ted Cruz.......they > despise Ron DeSantis.......they won't stomach Jim Jordan - Hell, they > attacked Mitt Romney in 2012 and he's a RINO, for petesakes. I do > happen to know that a lot of people changed their registration because > of Trump to vote either independent or Republican and that exodus from > the local county Democrat party has accelerated since Biden's taken > over. I don't see anyone they (the hard left) are willing to accept, > do you? With the Fraud the democrats are all in for communism, socialism aka liberalism. No more denials they are the party of Stalin, Castro and AOC. Those they hate are the ones doing right even Putin though the jury is still out on that since EU PINKO's on another list are repeating the Wag the DOG lies of our domestic enemies. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Sat Apr 2 08:36:49 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2022 07:36:49 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1464103642.1469986.1648662348990@mail.yahoo.com> <1150270813.53923.1648670548434@mail.yahoo.com> <245546027.48647.1648671276434@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1648910209.14228.28.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 23:25 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: > None good. Just some worse than others. Besides, even if he gets the > job, he?s out four years down the road, leaving the door wide open. > If he?s the nominated candidate I will vote for him, but I believe it > would be a disaster. Also there is enough lingering hatred for him > that he is definitely not a shoe-in. Simply put, there is nothing > happening in the world right now that makes me look to him for > leadership. Maybe the next two years can alter that, but I am > skeptical. Anti Trump is Anti Christ. Trump forces the enemies of GOD and America to come out and identify themselves. So let the enemy show his hate for Trump so we can destroy them in the midterms. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Sat Apr 2 08:45:04 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2022 07:45:04 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: <1648910704.14228.36.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Fri, 2022-04-01 at 19:45 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: > We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or is Trump?s philosophy, > I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Well we can always simply shun them as the Amish do and ignore those of that party if they are in office and treat them as irrelevant. I simply propose the mercy of granting them some useless land say the east coast to live as they choose free from exposure to freedom and honest elections. They could then live on wind power and whatever resources they can scrounge up and coddle the criminals they love so much. I would let them choose how they wish to go to hell. But then I would back out of all these Cold War treaties and trade deals and free America to be first and let the rest solve their own problems. This would also allow them to be ruled by a tyrant they can love and we would be governed by concent not mandate. They could even jab themselves to oblivion if they so chose. For too long we have forced freedom on the ungrateful outside our borders its time we ended that on both inside and outside of our border. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Sat Apr 2 08:48:12 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2022 07:48:12 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1648910892.14228.39.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Fri, 2022-04-01 at 21:49 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: > What?s reality? That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on > one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? And > we?ll starve them out? And then we can all pat ourselves on the back > for the great Christians we are. To me, this thinking is more > despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating > each other. Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred > grows deeper by the day. Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. I want freedom from their desire to rule. I do not see indications that they will live and let live unless they have their own nation. I just refuse to give them my nation. If they would move to Venesuala I would help pay for the one way ticket third class on these unused ships that Fauci has closed off with the sniffle panic. I deny them nothing that does not belong to them but I do deny them what belongs to me. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Sat Apr 2 08:51:01 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2022 07:51:01 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1648911061.14228.42.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Fri, 2022-04-01 at 23:29 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: > No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people > who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S > reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is > immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. Perhaps I am being soft on the left. Remember the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah. But then its not my call I only describe a solution which lets me be free and lets the haters of freedom go to the devil however they choose. The nation is already divided all I propose is formalizing it. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sat Apr 2 09:33:06 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 15:33:06 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_n?= =?windows-1252?q?ot_have_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=91I_know_Put?= =?windows-1252?q?in_very_well=92?= In-Reply-To: <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: My mistake. I read your post claiming that they are all out to kill you and that you supported Carl?s goal to round them all up and starve them out. Either of these wrong? Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - with SOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there's NO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. Right? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? And we?ll starve them out? And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. And we know we are the ones in the right, right? God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. The new commandment. So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do. He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence. His fault? No. But it will be real. I am sickened by the hatred in this country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama. Even so, it exploded during the trump years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term. I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America. Ill take the hate and division. I want no unity with our domestic enemies. If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not. Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy. And we will keep our freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sat Apr 2 09:55:20 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 15:55:20 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_n?= =?windows-1252?q?ot_have_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=91I_know_Put?= =?windows-1252?q?in_very_well=92?= In-Reply-To: <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You cite the Bible. Religion is just like politics. We enter discussion with ?As long as you accept that I am right and you are wrong, we?ll have some common ground.? Scripture is a great collection of individual works, works written for the people of the time in language they could understand. But I believe that far too often we ziggy down to some little verse to cite a saying/thought that suits our needs at the time. We cite passages as symbolic or literal to suit our needs at the time. By doing this, I believe we miss the grandeur Of the entire work and the underlying infinitely pure thematic message. Scripture was never intended to be cited as a weapon or used as a tool to our own ends. It?s a guide to our relationship with the Creator. I have never fully grasped fighting over It or fighting with It. It?s not a sword, a spear. Rather It?s intended to be a healer. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - with SOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there's NO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. Right? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? And we?ll starve them out? And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. And we know we are the ones in the right, right? God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. The new commandment. So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do. He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence. His fault? No. But it will be real. I am sickened by the hatred in this country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama. Even so, it exploded during the trump years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term. I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America. Ill take the hate and division. I want no unity with our domestic enemies. If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not. Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy. And we will keep our freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 7:51:01 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Fri, 2022-04-01 at 23:29 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. Perhaps I am being soft on the left. Remember the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah. But then its not my call I only describe a solution which lets me be free and lets the haters of freedom go to the devil however they choose. The nation is already divided all I propose is formalizing it. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sat Apr 2 09:59:45 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 15:59:45 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_n?= =?windows-1252?q?ot_have_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=91I_know_Put?= =?windows-1252?q?in_very_well=92?= In-Reply-To: <1648910704.14228.36.camel@linux-7k5b.site> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648910704.14228.36.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: We certainly do like to force our beliefs on others. No shortage of that attitude. Some of what you write has some significance, but it is a far cry from the viciousness of your original post. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 7:45:04 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Fri, 2022-04-01 at 19:45 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or is Trump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Well we can always simply shun them as the Amish do and ignore those of that party if they are in office and treat them as irrelevant. I simply propose the mercy of granting them some useless land say the east coast to live as they choose free from exposure to freedom and honest elections. They could then live on wind power and whatever resources they can scrounge up and coddle the criminals they love so much. I would let them choose how they wish to go to hell. But then I would back out of all these Cold War treaties and trade deals and free America to be first and let the rest solve their own problems. This would also allow them to be ruled by a tyrant they can love and we would be governed by concent not mandate. They could even jab themselves to oblivion if they so chose. For too long we have forced freedom on the ungrateful outside our borders its time we ended that on both inside and outside of our border. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sat Apr 2 10:01:31 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 16:01:31 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_n?= =?windows-1252?q?ot_have_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=91I_know_Put?= =?windows-1252?q?in_very_well=92?= In-Reply-To: <1648910209.14228.28.camel@linux-7k5b.site> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1464103642.1469986.1648662348990@mail.yahoo.com> <1150270813.53923.1648670548434@mail.yahoo.com> <245546027.48647.1648671276434@mail.yahoo.com> <1648910209.14228.28.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: So Trump is synonymous with Christ? That is ignorant and insulting. No one needs equate any human with Christ. Absolutely disgusting. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 7:36:49 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 23:25 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: None good. Just some worse than others. Besides, even if he gets the job, he?s out four years down the road, leaving the door wide open. If he?s the nominated candidate I will vote for him, but I believe it would be a disaster. Also there is enough lingering hatred for him that he is definitely not a shoe-in. Simply put, there is nothing happening in the world right now that makes me look to him for leadership. Maybe the next two years can alter that, but I am skeptical. Anti Trump is Anti Christ. Trump forces the enemies of GOD and America to come out and identify themselves. So let the enemy show his hate for Trump so we can destroy them in the midterms. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sat Apr 2 10:49:41 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 16:49:41 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_n?= =?windows-1252?q?ot_have_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=91I_know_Put?= =?windows-1252?q?in_very_well=92?= In-Reply-To: <1891450557.708766.1648863773943@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1891450557.708766.1648863773943@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I love your last paragraph. I do I agree. And we are doing nothing but complaining. Maybe there is no solution. But I am quite sure that mimicking the hatred won?t work either. We arrived at this point incrementally, on a now rapidly increasing steep curve. Likely the possible solution will be achieved the same way. But so often we look for immediate solutions. We?re Americans; instant gratification is a part of our culture. How many of us have tried really reaching out? Personally, unlike what you claim, I don?t know anyone that wants me dead - other than occasionally my wife. But to lump every disagreement into that sentiment only serves what we oppose. We loathe being lumped into a single entity, but we do it to others. I am guessing I?ll get nowhere. But I have grown weary of hating everything and everyone. It?s mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and physically exhausting. So I am ready to try something new. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 6:42:53 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creatir will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. Right? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Stephen, I'm just curious........what do you suggest we do here? Fall on our swords, for example? Plead "mea culpa maxima"? What is YOUR solution? I revert back to a prior statement that in these times, we're seeing a battle of good and evil. Human trafficking (particularly childhood sex trafficking), abortion, mass tyranny (think "Great Reset"), America is involved in funding/operating biowarfare labs in Ukraine and Taiwan.........the list goes on. The left DESPISES us for even pointing this stuff out. These issues are merely the tip of the proverbial iceberg. Where is there room for "compromise" and how do we achieve that? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. No, the only "failure" here is not standing up for what's right - no matter what kind of hatred and violence we face. Who said, "evil only prevails when good men do nothing"? Can you not agree? Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? And we?ll starve them out? And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. And we know we are the ones in the right, right? God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. The new commandment. So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do. He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence. His fault? No. But it will be real. I am sickened by the hatred in this country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama. Even so, it exploded during the trump years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term. I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America. Ill take the hate and division. I want no unity with our domestic enemies. If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not. Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy. And we will keep our freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sat Apr 2 10:55:30 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 16:55:30 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_n?= =?windows-1252?q?ot_have_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=91I_know_Put?= =?windows-1252?q?in_very_well=92?= In-Reply-To: <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Capitals and underlining - exactly the same as ?it?s a known fact? and ?everybody knows?. You get the exact opposite response to what you?re trying to get. It?s akin to jumping up, pushing your chair back, and puffing up your chest. Might work with some people, but it demonstrates something far less favorable with me. I detest arrogance in all its many forms. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - with SOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there's NO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. Right? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? And we?ll starve them out? And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. And we know we are the ones in the right, right? God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. The new commandment. So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do. He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence. His fault? No. But it will be real. I am sickened by the hatred in this country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama. Even so, it exploded during the trump years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term. I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America. Ill take the hate and division. I want no unity with our domestic enemies. If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not. Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy. And we will keep our freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sat Apr 2 12:58:31 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 18:58:31 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Cc=92s?= Message-ID: Anyone in this group carry ccw insurance? With whom? Why this choice. Get Outlook for iOS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Sat Apr 2 17:50:58 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 23:50:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1296015297.849563.1648943458989@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Very much so....................first, the radical left (IOWs, the people running the country now) want all of us dead - those are Dan Bongino's words. Bongino says, "they hate you and want you dead." Secondly, I'm not for starving anyone, but I pray daily that God brings us justice and very soon. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 11:33 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? My mistake. I read your post claiming that they are all out to kill you and that you supported Carl?s goal to round them all up and starve them out. Either of these wrong? Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - withSOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there'sNO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. ?There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. ?Right? ?We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. ?We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me ?world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. ?You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't.THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? ?That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? ?And we?ll starve them out? ?And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. ?To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. ?Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. ?Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. ?And we know we are the ones in the right, right? ?God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? ?Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? ?All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. ?Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. ?The new commandment. ?So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. ?This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well??On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do.? He is too controversial.? He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence.? His fault?? No. But it will be real.? I am sickened by the hatred in this country.? I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama.? Even so, it exploded during the trump years.? Biden is still fueling it.? If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term.? I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America.? Ill take the hate and division.? I want no unity with our domestic enemies.? If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not.? Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy.? And we will keep our freedom. | -- Carl? Spitzer ? ___????????????? _???????????????????????????????????? ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? ()????? o??????????????????? |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_?? |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? |? ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /|?????????? ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \|?? Democrat is SIN and TREASON | _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Sat Apr 2 17:55:21 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 23:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1350686766.843883.1648943721774@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Stephen, I CITED Scripture, I didn't quote it. You have a unique fondness for reading into things what isn't here. As far as who's right about religion, I do what any good Catholic SHOULD do and obey the Magisterium. If you don't wish to, that's your choice. If you wish to go back and pick apart my prose from the earliest days of this chatgroup, I don't have time for that. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 11:55 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? You cite the Bible. ?Religion is just like politics. ?We enter discussion with ?As long as you accept that I am right and you are wrong, we?ll have some common ground.? ?Scripture is a great collection of individual works, works written for the people of the time in language they could understand. ?But I believe that far too often we ziggy down to some little verse to cite a saying/thought that suits our needs at the time. ?We cite passages as symbolic or literal to suit our needs at the time. ?By doing this, I believe we miss the grandeur Of the entire work and the underlying infinitely pure thematic message. ?Scripture was never intended to be cited as a weapon or used as a tool to our own ends. It?s a guide to our relationship with the Creator. ?I have never fully grasped fighting over It or fighting with It. ?It?s not a sword, a spear. ?Rather It?s intended to be a healer. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - withSOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there'sNO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. ?There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. ?Right? ?We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. ?We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me ?world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. ?You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't.THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? ?That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? ?And we?ll starve them out? ?And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. ?To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. ?Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. ?Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. ?And we know we are the ones in the right, right? ?God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? ?Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? ?All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. ?Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. ?The new commandment. ?So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. ?This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well??On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do.? He is too controversial.? He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence.? His fault?? No. But it will be real.? I am sickened by the hatred in this country.? I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama.? Even so, it exploded during the trump years.? Biden is still fueling it.? If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term.? I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America.? Ill take the hate and division.? I want no unity with our domestic enemies.? If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not.? Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy.? And we will keep our freedom. | -- Carl? Spitzer ? ___????????????? _???????????????????????????????????? ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? ()????? o??????????????????? |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_?? |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? |? ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /|?????????? ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \|?? Democrat is SIN and TREASON | _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Sat Apr 2 18:17:15 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 00:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1891450557.708766.1648863773943@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <888250539.853136.1648945035652@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? I'll go out on a limb here and wager that we're seeking instant gratification for the big reason that the left has positioned themselves into turning the final turns of the screw and we have little time left to act. Our societal norms are all but obliterated at this juncture. I never in my wildest imagination ever dreamed that I'd see what we're seeing today - men competing against women, genderless bathrooms and so forth. If I go to my doctor's office and tell him that I identify as a G.E. Frost-Free refrigerator, he'd call for a padded wagon to remove me from his office. Conversely, if I walk in and tell him I'm a woman, he's required to play along. The solution here that is obvious (at least to me) is to push back and explain to these cretins that they are whatever God made them and to Hell with their reactions! You are what God made you - it's ingrained in the DNA of every cell in your body! Somebody can all me a hater - I really couldn't care less. I'm completely fed up with this nonsense!! I have two grandchildren (so far) and I don't want them to be bothered by perverts while they use a public bathroom - whether it be in school or elsewhere. Human trafficking has become a world-wide problem that involves even the wealthiest among us. This is beyond troublesome. I don't hate everything, but I DO retain a strong desire to do what's right - no matter what. That gets me in dutch with those who are life-long malcontents and upset by literally everything..................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 12:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? I love your last paragraph. I do I agree. And we are doing nothing but complaining. Maybe there is no solution. But I am quite sure that mimicking the hatred won?t work either. ?We arrived at this point incrementally, on a now rapidly increasing steep curve. ?Likely the possible solution will be achieved the same way. ?But so often we look for immediate solutions. We?re Americans; instant gratification is a part of our culture. ?How many of us have tried really reaching out? ?Personally, unlike what you claim, I don?t know anyone that wants me dead - other than occasionally my wife. ?But to lump every disagreement into that sentiment only serves what we oppose. We loathe being lumped into a single entity, but we do it to others. I am guessing I?ll get nowhere. But I have grown weary of hating everything and everyone. It?s mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and physically exhausting. So I am ready to try something new. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 6:42:53 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well??-----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. ?But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. ?Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. ?There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. ?We are just as guilty. ?And God stop it? ?I think God is counting on it. ?It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. ?Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. ?There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creatir will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. ?Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. ?Right? ?We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. ?I believe such was never the intention - of hope. ?But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. ?We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. ?It?s a me me me ?world. ?I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. ?Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. ?But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right?? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???Stephen, I'm just curious........what do you suggest we do here? Fall on our swords, for example? Plead "mea culpa maxima"? What is YOUR solution? I revert back to a prior statement that in these times, we're seeing a battle of good and evil. Human trafficking (particularly childhood sex trafficking), abortion, mass tyranny (think "Great Reset"), America is involved in funding/operating biowarfare labs in Ukraine and Taiwan.........the list goes on. The leftDESPISES us for even pointing this stuff out. These issues are merely the tip of the proverbial iceberg. Where is there room for "compromise" and how do we achieve that? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed.? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???No, the only "failure" here is not standing up for what's right - no matter what kind of hatred and violence we face. Who said, "evil only prevails when good men do nothing"? Can you not agree? Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't.THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? ?That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? ?And we?ll starve them out? ?And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. ?To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. ?Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. ?Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. ?And we know we are the ones in the right, right? ?God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? ?Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? ?All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. ?Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. ?The new commandment. ?So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. ?This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well??On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do.? He is too controversial.? He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence.? His fault?? No. But it will be real.? I am sickened by the hatred in this country.? I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama.? Even so, it exploded during the trump years.? Biden is still fueling it.? If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term.? I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America.? Ill take the hate and division.? I want no unity with our domestic enemies.? If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not.? Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy.? And we will keep our freedom. | -- Carl? Spitzer ? ___????????????? _???????????????????????????????????? ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? ()????? o??????????????????? |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_?? |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? |? ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /|?????????? ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \|?? Democrat is SIN and TREASON | _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Sat Apr 2 18:18:55 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 00:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2037521760.845209.1648945135146@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Capitals and underlining are meant to denote much anger........................ -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 12:55 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Capitals and underlining - exactly the same as ?it?s a known fact? and ?everybody knows?. ?You get the exact opposite response to what you?re trying to get. It?s akin to jumping up, pushing your chair back, and puffing up your chest. ?Might work with some people, but it demonstrates something far less favorable with me. ?I detest arrogance in all its many forms. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - withSOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there'sNO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. ?There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. ?Right? ?We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. ?We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me ?world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. ?You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't.THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? ?That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? ?And we?ll starve them out? ?And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. ?To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. ?Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. ?Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. ?And we know we are the ones in the right, right? ?God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? ?Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? ?All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. ?Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. ?The new commandment. ?So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. ?This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well??On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do.? He is too controversial.? He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence.? His fault?? No. But it will be real.? I am sickened by the hatred in this country.? I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama.? Even so, it exploded during the trump years.? Biden is still fueling it.? If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term.? I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America.? Ill take the hate and division.? I want no unity with our domestic enemies.? If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not.? Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy.? And we will keep our freedom. | -- Carl? Spitzer ? ___????????????? _???????????????????????????????????? ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? ()????? o??????????????????? |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_?? |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? |? ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /|?????????? ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \|?? Democrat is SIN and TREASON | _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sat Apr 2 18:56:02 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 00:56:02 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_n?= =?windows-1252?q?ot_have_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=91I_know_Put?= =?windows-1252?q?in_very_well=92?= In-Reply-To: <1350686766.843883.1648943721774@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> <1350686766.843883.1648943721774@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: First of all, I wrote ?cited?. What did ?read in?? What did I pick apart? I mentioned that you cited scripture, and not another word was about you. Your reply doesn?t follow from the post. Have you gone back? Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 4:55:21 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Stephen, I CITED Scripture, I didn't quote it. You have a unique fondness for reading into things what isn't here. As far as who's right about religion, I do what any good Catholic SHOULD do and obey the Magisterium. If you don't wish to, that's your choice. If you wish to go back and pick apart my prose from the earliest days of this chatgroup, I don't have time for that. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 11:55 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? You cite the Bible. Religion is just like politics. We enter discussion with ?As long as you accept that I am right and you are wrong, we?ll have some common ground.? Scripture is a great collection of individual works, works written for the people of the time in language they could understand. But I believe that far too often we ziggy down to some little verse to cite a saying/thought that suits our needs at the time. We cite passages as symbolic or literal to suit our needs at the time. By doing this, I believe we miss the grandeur Of the entire work and the underlying infinitely pure thematic message. Scripture was never intended to be cited as a weapon or used as a tool to our own ends. It?s a guide to our relationship with the Creator. I have never fully grasped fighting over It or fighting with It. It?s not a sword, a spear. Rather It?s intended to be a healer. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - with SOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there's NO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. Right? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? And we?ll starve them out? And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. And we know we are the ones in the right, right? God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. The new commandment. So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do. He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence. His fault? No. But it will be real. I am sickened by the hatred in this country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama. Even so, it exploded during the trump years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term. I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America. Ill take the hate and division. I want no unity with our domestic enemies. If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not. Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy. And we will keep our freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Sat Apr 2 18:58:15 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 00:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> <1350686766.843883.1648943721774@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <787517198.848868.1648947495995@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? I took the following to be directed at me: Scripture is a great collection of individual works, works written for the people of the time in language they could understand. But I believe that far too often we ziggy down to some little verse to cite a saying/thought that suits our needs at the time. We cite passages as symbolic or literal to suit our needs at the time. By doing this, I believe we miss the grandeur Of the entire work and the underlying infinitely pure thematic message. Scripture was never intended to be cited as a weapon or used as a tool to our own ends. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 8:56 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? First of all, I wrote ?cited?. ?What did ?read in?? ?What did I pick apart? ?I mentioned that you cited scripture, and not another word was about you. ?Your reply doesn?t follow from the post. ?Have you gone back? Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 4:55:21 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Stephen, ICITED Scripture, I didn't quote it. You have a unique fondness for reading into things what isn't here. As far as who's right about religion, I do what any good CatholicSHOULD do and obey the Magisterium. If you don't wish to, that's your choice. If you wish to go back and pick apart my prose from the earliest days of this chatgroup, I don't have time for that. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 11:55 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? You cite the Bible. ?Religion is just like politics. ?We enter discussion with ?As long as you accept that I am right and you are wrong, we?ll have some common ground.? ?Scripture is a great collection of individual works, works written for the people of the time in language they could understand. ?But I believe that far too often we ziggy down to some little verse to cite a saying/thought that suits our needs at the time. ?We cite passages as symbolic or literal to suit our needs at the time. ?By doing this, I believe we miss the grandeur Of the entire work and the underlying infinitely pure thematic message. ?Scripture was never intended to be cited as a weapon or used as a tool to our own ends. It?s a guide to our relationship with the Creator. ?I have never fully grasped fighting over It or fighting with It. ?It?s not a sword, a spear. ?Rather It?s intended to be a healer. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - withSOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there'sNO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. ?There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. ?Right? ?We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. ?We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me ?world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. ?You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't.THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? ?That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? ?And we?ll starve them out? ?And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. ?To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. ?Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. ?Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. ?And we know we are the ones in the right, right? ?God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? ?Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? ?All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. ?Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. ?The new commandment. ?So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. ?This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well??On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do.? He is too controversial.? He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence.? His fault?? No. But it will be real.? I am sickened by the hatred in this country.? I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama.? Even so, it exploded during the trump years.? Biden is still fueling it.? If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term.? I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America.? Ill take the hate and division.? I want no unity with our domestic enemies.? If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not.? Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy.? And we will keep our freedom. | -- Carl? Spitzer ? ___????????????? _???????????????????????????????????? ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? ()????? o??????????????????? |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_?? |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? |? ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /|?????????? ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \|?? Democrat is SIN and TREASON | _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sat Apr 2 19:05:39 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 01:05:39 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_n?= =?windows-1252?q?ot_have_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=91I_know_Put?= =?windows-1252?q?in_very_well=92?= In-Reply-To: <1350686766.843883.1648943721774@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> <1350686766.843883.1648943721774@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have no issue with the Magisterium per se. I take issue, in general, with most structured religion solely for the fact that they assert blind obedience and seemingly discourage free thinking. I understand the purpose, but not the need. Thinking back to the Middle Ages, Joan of Arc was chastised for listening to God and not to the Church. If you wanted to know something about God, you ask the Church. That didn?t work out so well for Copernicus, Galeleo, and others. And they were right! So the Church?s teachings are not infallible. Makes me ask ?are there still people in hell for eating meat on Friday?? That?s a rhetorical question, but it stimulates thought. Disclaimer: none of this is you personally, annex none of this is picking apart any of your previous prose. Did I leave anything out? Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 4:55:21 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Stephen, I CITED Scripture, I didn't quote it. You have a unique fondness for reading into things what isn't here. As far as who's right about religion, I do what any good Catholic SHOULD do and obey the Magisterium. If you don't wish to, that's your choice. If you wish to go back and pick apart my prose from the earliest days of this chatgroup, I don't have time for that. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 11:55 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? You cite the Bible. Religion is just like politics. We enter discussion with ?As long as you accept that I am right and you are wrong, we?ll have some common ground.? Scripture is a great collection of individual works, works written for the people of the time in language they could understand. But I believe that far too often we ziggy down to some little verse to cite a saying/thought that suits our needs at the time. We cite passages as symbolic or literal to suit our needs at the time. By doing this, I believe we miss the grandeur Of the entire work and the underlying infinitely pure thematic message. Scripture was never intended to be cited as a weapon or used as a tool to our own ends. It?s a guide to our relationship with the Creator. I have never fully grasped fighting over It or fighting with It. It?s not a sword, a spear. Rather It?s intended to be a healer. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - with SOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there's NO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. Right? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? And we?ll starve them out? And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. And we know we are the ones in the right, right? God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. The new commandment. So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do. He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence. His fault? No. But it will be real. I am sickened by the hatred in this country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama. Even so, it exploded during the trump years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term. I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America. Ill take the hate and division. I want no unity with our domestic enemies. If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not. Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy. And we will keep our freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Sat Apr 2 19:07:44 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 01:07:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] Has Anyone Seen Carl Lately?!? References: <1500446513.849200.1648948064840.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1500446513.849200.1648948064840@mail.yahoo.com> ? | ? | | Man Sentenced To Prison For Threatening To Behead Pelosi, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez | | ? | | 'Multiple times on multiple days' | | | | ? | | | | | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sat Apr 2 19:08:36 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 01:08:36 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_n?= =?windows-1252?q?ot_have_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=91I_know_Put?= =?windows-1252?q?in_very_well=92?= In-Reply-To: <1296015297.849563.1648943458989@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> <1296015297.849563.1648943458989@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The gospel according to Dan Bongino. Quite frankly I?m not sure who is running the country. Yes we are a thorn in the side of many. But I truly, truly, truly believe that God will just let this play out. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 4:50:58 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Very much so....................first, the radical left (IOWs, the people running the country now) want all of us dead - those are Dan Bongino's words. Bongino says, "they hate you and want you dead." Secondly, I'm not for starving anyone, but I pray daily that God brings us justice and very soon. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 11:33 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? My mistake. I read your post claiming that they are all out to kill you and that you supported Carl?s goal to round them all up and starve them out. Either of these wrong? Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - with SOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there's NO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. Right? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? And we?ll starve them out? And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. And we know we are the ones in the right, right? God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. The new commandment. So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do. He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence. His fault? No. But it will be real. I am sickened by the hatred in this country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama. Even so, it exploded during the trump years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term. I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America. Ill take the hate and division. I want no unity with our domestic enemies. If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not. Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy. And we will keep our freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Sat Apr 2 19:10:01 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 01:10:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> <1296015297.849563.1648943458989@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1180039489.848054.1648948201460@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Only so far. Then, we should pray that God puts a halt to it........... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 9:08 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? The gospel according to Dan Bongino. ?Quite frankly I?m not sure who is running the country. ?Yes we are a thorn in the side of many. ?But I truly, truly, truly believe that God will just let this play out. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 4:50:58 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Very much so....................first, the radical left (IOWs, the people running the country now) want all of us dead - those are Dan Bongino's words. Bongino says, "they hate you and want you dead." Secondly, I'm not for starving anyone, but I pray daily that God brings us justice and very soon. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 11:33 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? My mistake. I read your post claiming that they are all out to kill you and that you supported Carl?s goal to round them all up and starve them out. Either of these wrong? Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - withSOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there'sNO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. ?There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. ?Right? ?We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. ?We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me ?world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. ?You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't.THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? ?That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? ?And we?ll starve them out? ?And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. ?To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. ?Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. ?Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. ?And we know we are the ones in the right, right? ?God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? ?Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? ?All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. ?Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. ?The new commandment. ?So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. ?This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well??On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do.? He is too controversial.? He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence.? His fault?? No. But it will be real.? I am sickened by the hatred in this country.? I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama.? Even so, it exploded during the trump years.? Biden is still fueling it.? If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term.? I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America.? Ill take the hate and division.? I want no unity with our domestic enemies.? If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not.? Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy.? And we will keep our freedom. | -- Carl? Spitzer ? ___????????????? _???????????????????????????????????? ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? ()????? o??????????????????? |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_?? |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? |? ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /|?????????? ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \|?? Democrat is SIN and TREASON | _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 5:17:15 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? I'll go out on a limb here and wager that we're seeking instant gratification for the big reason that the left has positioned themselves into turning the final turns of the screw and we have little time left to act. Our societal norms are all but obliterated at this juncture. I never in my wildest imagination ever dreamed that I'd see what we're seeing today - men competing against women, genderless bathrooms and so forth. If I go to my doctor's office and tell him that I identify as a G.E. Frost-Free refrigerator, he'd call for a padded wagon to remove me from his office. Conversely, if I walk in and tell him I'm a woman, he's required to play along. The solution here that is obvious (at least to me) is to push back and explain to these cretins that they are whatever God made them and to Hell with their reactions! You are what God made you - it's ingrained in the DNA of every cell in your body! Somebody can all me a hater - I really couldn't care less. I'm completely fed up with this nonsense!! I have two grandchildren (so far) and I don't want them to be bothered by perverts while they use a public bathroom - whether it be in school or elsewhere. Human trafficking has become a world-wide problem that involves even the wealthiest among us. This is beyond troublesome. I don't hate everything, but I DO retain a strong desire to do what's right - no matter what. That gets me in dutch with those who are life-long malcontents and upset by literally everything..................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 12:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? I love your last paragraph. I do I agree. And we are doing nothing but complaining. Maybe there is no solution. But I am quite sure that mimicking the hatred won?t work either. We arrived at this point incrementally, on a now rapidly increasing steep curve. Likely the possible solution will be achieved the same way. But so often we look for immediate solutions. We?re Americans; instant gratification is a part of our culture. How many of us have tried really reaching out? Personally, unlike what you claim, I don?t know anyone that wants me dead - other than occasionally my wife. But to lump every disagreement into that sentiment only serves what we oppose. We loathe being lumped into a single entity, but we do it to others. I am guessing I?ll get nowhere. But I have grown weary of hating everything and everyone. It?s mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and physically exhausting. So I am ready to try something new. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 6:42:53 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creatir will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. Right? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Stephen, I'm just curious........what do you suggest we do here? Fall on our swords, for example? Plead "mea culpa maxima"? What is YOUR solution? I revert back to a prior statement that in these times, we're seeing a battle of good and evil. Human trafficking (particularly childhood sex trafficking), abortion, mass tyranny (think "Great Reset"), America is involved in funding/operating biowarfare labs in Ukraine and Taiwan.........the list goes on. The left DESPISES us for even pointing this stuff out. These issues are merely the tip of the proverbial iceberg. Where is there room for "compromise" and how do we achieve that? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. No, the only "failure" here is not standing up for what's right - no matter what kind of hatred and violence we face. Who said, "evil only prevails when good men do nothing"? Can you not agree? Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? And we?ll starve them out? And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. And we know we are the ones in the right, right? God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. The new commandment. So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do. He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence. His fault? No. But it will be real. I am sickened by the hatred in this country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama. Even so, it exploded during the trump years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term. I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America. Ill take the hate and division. I want no unity with our domestic enemies. If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not. Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy. And we will keep our freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sat Apr 2 19:11:24 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 01:11:24 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_n?= =?windows-1252?q?ot_have_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=91I_know_Put?= =?windows-1252?q?in_very_well=92?= In-Reply-To: <2037521760.845209.1648945135146@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> <2037521760.845209.1648945135146@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ahh. Pointless. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 5:18:55 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Capitals and underlining are meant to denote much anger........................ -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 12:55 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Capitals and underlining - exactly the same as ?it?s a known fact? and ?everybody knows?. You get the exact opposite response to what you?re trying to get. It?s akin to jumping up, pushing your chair back, and puffing up your chest. Might work with some people, but it demonstrates something far less favorable with me. I detest arrogance in all its many forms. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - with SOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there's NO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. Right? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? And we?ll starve them out? And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. And we know we are the ones in the right, right? God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. The new commandment. So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do. He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence. His fault? No. But it will be real. I am sickened by the hatred in this country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama. Even so, it exploded during the trump years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term. I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America. Ill take the hate and division. I want no unity with our domestic enemies. If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not. Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy. And we will keep our freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sat Apr 2 19:12:07 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 01:12:07 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_n?= =?windows-1252?q?ot_have_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=91I_know_Put?= =?windows-1252?q?in_very_well=92?= In-Reply-To: <787517198.848868.1648947495995@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> <1350686766.843883.1648943721774@mail.yahoo.com> <787517198.848868.1648947495995@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: And you accuse me of reading things in?!?!?! Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 5:58:15 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? I took the following to be directed at me: Scripture is a great collection of individual works, works written for the people of the time in language they could understand. But I believe that far too often we ziggy down to some little verse to cite a saying/thought that suits our needs at the time. We cite passages as symbolic or literal to suit our needs at the time. By doing this, I believe we miss the grandeur Of the entire work and the underlying infinitely pure thematic message. Scripture was never intended to be cited as a weapon or used as a tool to our own ends. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 8:56 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? First of all, I wrote ?cited?. What did ?read in?? What did I pick apart? I mentioned that you cited scripture, and not another word was about you. Your reply doesn?t follow from the post. Have you gone back? Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 4:55:21 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Stephen, I CITED Scripture, I didn't quote it. You have a unique fondness for reading into things what isn't here. As far as who's right about religion, I do what any good Catholic SHOULD do and obey the Magisterium. If you don't wish to, that's your choice. If you wish to go back and pick apart my prose from the earliest days of this chatgroup, I don't have time for that. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 11:55 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? You cite the Bible. Religion is just like politics. We enter discussion with ?As long as you accept that I am right and you are wrong, we?ll have some common ground.? Scripture is a great collection of individual works, works written for the people of the time in language they could understand. But I believe that far too often we ziggy down to some little verse to cite a saying/thought that suits our needs at the time. We cite passages as symbolic or literal to suit our needs at the time. By doing this, I believe we miss the grandeur Of the entire work and the underlying infinitely pure thematic message. Scripture was never intended to be cited as a weapon or used as a tool to our own ends. It?s a guide to our relationship with the Creator. I have never fully grasped fighting over It or fighting with It. It?s not a sword, a spear. Rather It?s intended to be a healer. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - with SOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there's NO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. Right? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? And we?ll starve them out? And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. And we know we are the ones in the right, right? God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. The new commandment. So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do. He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence. His fault? No. But it will be real. I am sickened by the hatred in this country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama. Even so, it exploded during the trump years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term. I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America. Ill take the hate and division. I want no unity with our domestic enemies. If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not. Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy. And we will keep our freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sat Apr 2 19:14:40 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 01:14:40 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] Has Anyone Seen Carl Lately?!? In-Reply-To: <1500446513.849200.1648948064840@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1500446513.849200.1648948064840.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1500446513.849200.1648948064840@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It is wrong to threaten. Of course few remember the previous President being threatened. Personally I totally support law enforcement - up to and including the state level. Federal law enforcement is a bastion of corruption and power lust. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of John A. Quayle via Rushtalk Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 6:07:44 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: John A. Quayle Subject: [Rushtalk] Has Anyone Seen Carl Lately?!? Man Sentenced To Prison For Threatening To Behead Pelosi, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez 'Multiple times on multiple days' [Man Sentenced To Prison For Threatening To Behead Pelosi, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sat Apr 2 19:16:20 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 01:16:20 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_n?= =?windows-1252?q?ot_have_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=91I_know_Put?= =?windows-1252?q?in_very_well=92?= In-Reply-To: <1180039489.848054.1648948201460@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> <1296015297.849563.1648943458989@mail.yahoo.com> <1180039489.848054.1648948201460@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Putting a halt to it requires a suspension of free will. But that?s a whole new area of philosophy I won?t get into. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 6:10:01 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Only so far. Then, we should pray that God puts a halt to it........... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 9:08 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? The gospel according to Dan Bongino. Quite frankly I?m not sure who is running the country. Yes we are a thorn in the side of many. But I truly, truly, truly believe that God will just let this play out. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 4:50:58 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Very much so....................first, the radical left (IOWs, the people running the country now) want all of us dead - those are Dan Bongino's words. Bongino says, "they hate you and want you dead." Secondly, I'm not for starving anyone, but I pray daily that God brings us justice and very soon. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 11:33 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? My mistake. I read your post claiming that they are all out to kill you and that you supported Carl?s goal to round them all up and starve them out. Either of these wrong? Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - with SOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there's NO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. Right? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? And we?ll starve them out? And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. And we know we are the ones in the right, right? God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. The new commandment. So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do. He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence. His fault? No. But it will be real. I am sickened by the hatred in this country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama. Even so, it exploded during the trump years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term. I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America. Ill take the hate and division. I want no unity with our domestic enemies. If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not. Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy. And we will keep our freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Sat Apr 2 19:23:40 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 01:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] Has Anyone Seen Carl Lately?!? In-Reply-To: References: <1500446513.849200.1648948064840.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1500446513.849200.1648948064840@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <180064315.864250.1648949020118@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? I offered this tongue-in-cheek in response to Carl's tersely worded statements of late...................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: John A. Quayle Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 9:14 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Has Anyone Seen Carl Lately?!? It is wrong to threaten. Of course few remember the previous President being threatened. Personally I totally support law enforcement - up to and including the state level. Federal law enforcement is a bastion of corruption and power lust. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Rushtalk on behalf of John A. Quayle via Rushtalk Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 6:07:44 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: John A. Quayle Subject: [Rushtalk] Has Anyone Seen Carl Lately?!??? | ? | | Man Sentenced To Prison For Threatening To Behead Pelosi, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez | | ? | | 'Multiple times on multiple days' | | | | ? | | | | | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Sat Apr 2 19:27:18 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 01:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> <1296015297.849563.1648943458989@mail.yahoo.com> <1180039489.848054.1648948201460@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <104759632.859883.1648949238877@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? I don't think that free will will have any play on the day of judgement. I see signs of that happening soon, but that's merely conjecture on my part, of course............ -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 9:16 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Putting a halt to it requires a suspension of free will. ?But that?s a whole new area of philosophy I won?t get into. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 6:10:01 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Only so far. Then, we should pray that God puts a halt to it........... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 9:08 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? The gospel according to Dan Bongino. ?Quite frankly I?m not sure who is running the country. ?Yes we are a thorn in the side of many. ?But I truly, truly, truly believe that God will just let this play out. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 4:50:58 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Very much so....................first, the radical left (IOWs, the people running the country now) want all of us dead - those are Dan Bongino's words. Bongino says, "they hate you and want you dead." Secondly, I'm not for starving anyone, but I pray daily that God brings us justice and very soon. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 11:33 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? My mistake. I read your post claiming that they are all out to kill you and that you supported Carl?s goal to round them all up and starve them out. Either of these wrong? Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - withSOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there'sNO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. ?There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. ?Right? ?We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. ?We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me ?world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. ?You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't.THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? ?That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? ?And we?ll starve them out? ?And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. ?To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. ?Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. ?Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. ?And we know we are the ones in the right, right? ?God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? ?Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? ?All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. ?Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. ?The new commandment. ?So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. ?This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well??On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do.? He is too controversial.? He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence.? His fault?? No. But it will be real.? I am sickened by the hatred in this country.? I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama.? Even so, it exploded during the trump years.? Biden is still fueling it.? If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term.? I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America.? Ill take the hate and division.? I want no unity with our domestic enemies.? If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not.? Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy.? And we will keep our freedom. | -- Carl? Spitzer ? ___????????????? _???????????????????????????????????? ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? ()????? o??????????????????? |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_?? |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? |? ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /|?????????? ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \|?? Democrat is SIN and TREASON | _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Sat Apr 2 19:27:47 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2022 18:27:47 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] Has Anyone Seen Carl Lately?!? In-Reply-To: <1500446513.849200.1648948064840@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1500446513.849200.1648948064840.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1500446513.849200.1648948064840@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1648949267.28469.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Sorry I do not have a flying guillotine. CWSIV From cwsiv at juno.com Sat Apr 2 20:56:21 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2022 19:56:21 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1648911061.14228.42.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: <1648954581.31869.4.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Sat, 2022-04-02 at 15:56 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: > Great Christian solution. > Yes it is because the other solutions are execution for treason, mass deportation, and imprisonment. So dividing the land is the peaceful solution. We keep freedom they keep tyranny. We keep fostle fuels, coal, oil and nuclear they keep wind and solar and electric cars. We keep our property and they can have the criminals of all kinds. We keep living children they keep planned parenthood. We keep medical freedom and they can become guini pigs for Fauci and company. We keep the military and personal guns they disarm. etc, etc etc. We become the Confederacy and they remain America and keep the national debt and income tax. So your right my solution is Christian and peaceful. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sun Apr 3 10:07:15 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 16:07:15 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_n?= =?windows-1252?q?ot_have_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=91I_know_Put?= =?windows-1252?q?in_very_well=92?= In-Reply-To: <104759632.859883.1648949238877@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1252795593.708044.1648860356957@mail.yahoo.com> <1296015297.849563.1648943458989@mail.yahoo.com> <1180039489.848054.1648948201460@mail.yahoo.com> <104759632.859883.1648949238877@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: We all speculate about that day. Like you, I have my own thoughts. But I do believe God is uninterested in vengeance, uninterested in words. He will look straight into the heart/soul where no one else can see. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 6:27:18 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? I don't think that free will will have any play on the day of judgement. I see signs of that happening soon, but that's merely conjecture on my part, of course............ -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 9:16 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Putting a halt to it requires a suspension of free will. But that?s a whole new area of philosophy I won?t get into. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 6:10:01 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Only so far. Then, we should pray that God puts a halt to it........... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 9:08 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? The gospel according to Dan Bongino. Quite frankly I?m not sure who is running the country. Yes we are a thorn in the side of many. But I truly, truly, truly believe that God will just let this play out. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 4:50:58 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Very much so....................first, the radical left (IOWs, the people running the country now) want all of us dead - those are Dan Bongino's words. Bongino says, "they hate you and want you dead." Secondly, I'm not for starving anyone, but I pray daily that God brings us justice and very soon. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 11:33 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? My mistake. I read your post claiming that they are all out to kill you and that you supported Carl?s goal to round them all up and starve them out. Either of these wrong? Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - with SOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there's NO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. Right? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? And we?ll starve them out? And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. And we know we are the ones in the right, right? God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. The new commandment. So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do. He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence. His fault? No. But it will be real. I am sickened by the hatred in this country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama. Even so, it exploded during the trump years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term. I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America. Ill take the hate and division. I want no unity with our domestic enemies. If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not. Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy. And we will keep our freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sun Apr 3 10:08:30 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 16:08:30 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] Has Anyone Seen Carl Lately?!? 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Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 7:56:21 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Sat, 2022-04-02 at 15:56 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Great Christian solution. Yes it is because the other solutions are execution for treason, mass deportation, and imprisonment. So dividing the land is the peaceful solution. We keep freedom they keep tyranny. We keep fostle fuels, coal, oil and nuclear they keep wind and solar and electric cars. We keep our property and they can have the criminals of all kinds. We keep living children they keep planned parenthood. We keep medical freedom and they can become guini pigs for Fauci and company. We keep the military and personal guns they disarm. etc, etc etc. We become the Confederacy and they remain America and keep the national debt and income tax. So your right my solution is Christian and peaceful. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 6:27:18 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? I don't think that free will will have any play on the day of judgement. I see signs of that happening soon, but that's merely conjecture on my part, of course............ -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 9:16 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Putting a halt to it requires a suspension of free will. But that?s a whole new area of philosophy I won?t get into. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 6:10:01 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Only so far. Then, we should pray that God puts a halt to it........... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 9:08 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? The gospel according to Dan Bongino. Quite frankly I?m not sure who is running the country. Yes we are a thorn in the side of many. But I truly, truly, truly believe that God will just let this play out. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 4:50:58 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Very much so....................first, the radical left (IOWs, the people running the country now) want all of us dead - those are Dan Bongino's words. Bongino says, "they hate you and want you dead." Secondly, I'm not for starving anyone, but I pray daily that God brings us justice and very soon. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 11:33 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? My mistake. I read your post claiming that they are all out to kill you and that you supported Carl?s goal to round them all up and starve them out. Either of these wrong? Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - with SOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there's NO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. Right? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S reality...............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? And we?ll starve them out? And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. And we know we are the ones in the right, right? God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. The new commandment. So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality.................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do. He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence. His fault? No. But it will be real. I am sickened by the hatred in this country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama. Even so, it exploded during the trump years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term. I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America. Ill take the hate and division. I want no unity with our domestic enemies. If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not. Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy. And we will keep our freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Quayle > *Sent:* Saturday, April 2, 2022 6:27:18 PM > *To:* stephen.frye at outlook.com ; > rushtalk at csdco.com > *Cc:* cwsiv at juno.com > *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have > happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? > I don't think that free will will have any play on the day of > judgement. I see signs of that happening soon, but that's merely > conjecture on my part, of course............ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Frye > To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com > > Cc: cwsiv at juno.com > Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 9:16 pm > Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have > happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? > > Putting a halt to it requires a suspension of free will. ?But that?s a > whole new area of philosophy I won?t get into. > > Get Outlook for iOS > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John A. Quayle > *Sent:* Saturday, April 2, 2022 6:10:01 PM > *To:* stephen.frye at outlook.com ; > rushtalk at csdco.com > *Cc:* cwsiv at juno.com > *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have > happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? > Only so far. Then, we should pray that God puts a halt to it........... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Frye > To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com > > Cc: cwsiv at juno.com > Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 9:08 pm > Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have > happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? > > The gospel according to Dan Bongino. ?Quite frankly I?m not sure who > is running the country. ?Yes we are a thorn in the side of many. ?But > I truly, truly, truly believe that God will just let this play out. > > Get Outlook for iOS > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John A. Quayle > *Sent:* Saturday, April 2, 2022 4:50:58 PM > *To:* stephen.frye at outlook.com ; > rushtalk at csdco.com > *Cc:* cwsiv at juno.com > *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have > happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? > Very much so....................first, the radical left (IOWs, the > people running the country now) want all of us dead - those are Dan > Bongino's words. Bongino says, "they hate you and want you dead." > Secondly, I'm not for starving anyone, but I pray daily that God > brings us justice and very soon. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Frye > To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com > > Cc: cwsiv at juno.com > Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 11:33 am > Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have > happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? > > My mistake. I read your post claiming that they are all out to kill > you and that you supported Carl?s goal to round them all up and starve > them out. Either of these wrong? > > Get Outlook for iOS > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John A. Quayle > *Sent:* Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM > *To:* stephen.frye at outlook.com ; > rushtalk at csdco.com > *Cc:* cwsiv at juno.com > *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have > happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? > Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same > token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what > conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative > friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their > lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 > elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - > with SOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal > affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there's NO > COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World > Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday > ). > These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). > However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this > because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over > evil in end. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Frye > To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com > > Cc: cwsiv at juno.com > Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm > Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have > happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? > > And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s > post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit > different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is > little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree > with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is > counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. > Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall > indeed be our own self-destruction. ?There?s life elsewhere, and if > there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and > try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself > again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed > without wisdom and compassion. ?Right? ?We care about others when it > suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it > benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as > Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. > ?We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me ?world. I > want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way > and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much > as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. ?You > proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why > we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then > you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of > us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, > and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. > > Get Outlook for iOS > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John A. Quayle > *Sent:* Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM > *To:* stephen.frye at outlook.com ; > rushtalk at csdco.com > *Cc:* cwsiv at juno.com > *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have > happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? > No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people > who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S > reality..............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is > immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Frye > To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com > > Cc: cwsiv at juno.com > Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm > Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have > happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? > > What?s reality? ?That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on > one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? ?And > we?ll starve them out? ?And then we can all pat ourselves on the back > for the great Christians we are. ?To me, this thinking is more > despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating > each other. ?Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred > grows deeper by the day. ?Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. > ?And we know we are the ones in the right, right? ?God is in our side, > so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is > disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more > disgusted? ?Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in > His name? ?All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their > devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, > get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to > hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. ?Who is more > dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who > use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a > test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things > our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved > you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which > we are left. ?The new commandment. ?So much easier to hate, to accuse, > to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the > speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it > to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is > the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A > complete denial. > > Get Outlook for iOS > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John A. Quayle > *Sent:* Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM > *To:* rushtalk at csdco.com > *Cc:* stephen.frye at outlook.com ; > cwsiv at juno.com > *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have > happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? > Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality................... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk > To: rushtalk at csdco.com > Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} > > Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm > Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have > happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? > > We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, > I want absolutely no part of either. ?This is contemptible. > > Get Outlook for iOS > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Rushtalk on behalf of Carl > Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk > *Sent:* Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM > *To:* rushtalk at csdco.com > *Cc:* Carl Spitzer {C Juno} > *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have > happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? > On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: >> Yes you do.? He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish >> some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented >> resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence.? His fault?? >> No. But it will be real.? I am sickened by the hatred in this >> country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was >> started by Barrack Obama.? Even so, it exploded during the trump >> years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and >> quashed now, wait for another Trump term.? I would much rather elect >> a President who will at least try to mend it. > > Trump is mending America.? Ill take the hate and division. I want no > unity with our domestic enemies.? If we must draw a border some place > and say inside is America and outside is not.? Ship all liberals, > slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food > or energy. And we will keep our freedom. > > > > > > -- > Carl? Spitzer > ? ___????????????? _ > ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? 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We have USCCA and are looking to see if there is something better. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Dennis Putnam via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 10:00:34 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Dennis Putnam Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? I don't have CCW Insurance but perhaps this will help: https://gununiversity.com/concealed-carry-insurance/ On 4/3/2022 12:18 PM, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: No problem if no one answered, just checking to see if my ccw question made it out there. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 6:27:18 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? I don't think that free will will have any play on the day of judgement. I see signs of that happening soon, but that's merely conjecture on my part, of course............ -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 9:16 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Putting a halt to it requires a suspension of free will. But that?s a whole new area of philosophy I won?t get into. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 6:10:01 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Only so far. Then, we should pray that God puts a halt to it........... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 9:08 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? The gospel according to Dan Bongino. Quite frankly I?m not sure who is running the country. Yes we are a thorn in the side of many. But I truly, truly, truly believe that God will just let this play out. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 4:50:58 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Very much so....................first, the radical left (IOWs, the people running the country now) want all of us dead - those are Dan Bongino's words. Bongino says, "they hate you and want you dead." Secondly, I'm not for starving anyone, but I pray daily that God brings us justice and very soon. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 11:33 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? My mistake. I read your post claiming that they are all out to kill you and that you supported Carl?s goal to round them all up and starve them out. Either of these wrong? Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the results - with SOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, there's NO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday ). These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over evil in end. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. Right? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a me me me world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an olive branch. You proved that with your post - pointless to even try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest will be sucked down with the chaff. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S reality..............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? What?s reality? That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? And we?ll starve them out? And then we can all pat ourselves on the back for the great Christians we are. To me, this thinking is more despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating each other. Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred grows deeper by the day. Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. And we know we are the ones in the right, right? God is in our side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more disgusted? Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in His name? All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. Who is more dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which we are left. The new commandment. So much easier to hate, to accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our Savior?s message. A complete denial. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality................... -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, I want absolutely no part of either. This is contemptible. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Yes you do. He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence. His fault? No. But it will be real. I am sickened by the hatred in this country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was started by Barrack Obama. Even so, it exploded during the trump years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and quashed now, wait for another Trump term. I would much rather elect a President who will at least try to mend it. Trump is mending America. Ill take the hate and division. I want no unity with our domestic enemies. If we must draw a border some place and say inside is America and outside is not. Ship all liberals, slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food or energy. And we will keep our freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 4/3/2022 1:12 PM, Stephen Frye wrote: > Thanks. ?I had seen that site. ?We have USCCA and are looking to see > if there is something better. > > Get Outlook for iOS > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Rushtalk on behalf of Dennis > Putnam via Rushtalk > *Sent:* Sunday, April 3, 2022 10:00:34 AM > *To:* rushtalk at csdco.com > *Cc:* Dennis Putnam > *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have > happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? > I don't have CCW Insurance but perhaps this will help: > > https://gununiversity.com/concealed-carry-insurance/ > > > On 4/3/2022 12:18 PM, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: >> No problem if no one answered, just checking to see if my ccw >> question made it out there. >> >> Get Outlook for iOS >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* John A. Quayle >> *Sent:* Saturday, April 2, 2022 6:27:18 PM >> *To:* stephen.frye at outlook.com >> ; >> rushtalk at csdco.com >> >> *Cc:* cwsiv at juno.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have >> happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? >> I don't think that free will will have any play on the day of >> judgement. I see signs of that happening soon, but that's merely >> conjecture on my part, of course............ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephen Frye >> >> To: John A. Quayle ; >> rushtalk at csdco.com >> >> Cc: cwsiv at juno.com >> >> Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 9:16 pm >> Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have >> happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? >> >> Putting a halt to it requires a suspension of free will. ?But that?s >> a whole new area of philosophy I won?t get into. >> >> Get Outlook for iOS >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* John A. Quayle >> *Sent:* Saturday, April 2, 2022 6:10:01 PM >> *To:* stephen.frye at outlook.com >> ; >> rushtalk at csdco.com >> >> *Cc:* cwsiv at juno.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have >> happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? >> Only so far. Then, we should pray that God puts a halt to it........... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephen Frye >> >> To: John A. Quayle ; >> rushtalk at csdco.com >> >> Cc: cwsiv at juno.com >> >> Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 9:08 pm >> Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have >> happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? >> >> The gospel according to Dan Bongino. ?Quite frankly I?m not sure who >> is running the country. ?Yes we are a thorn in the side of many. ?But >> I truly, truly, truly believe that God will just let this play out. >> >> Get Outlook for iOS >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* John A. Quayle >> *Sent:* Saturday, April 2, 2022 4:50:58 PM >> *To:* stephen.frye at outlook.com >> ; >> rushtalk at csdco.com >> >> *Cc:* cwsiv at juno.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have >> happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? >> Very much so...................first, the radical left (IOWs, the >> people running the country now) want all of us dead - those are Dan >> Bongino's words. Bongino says, "they hate you and want you dead." >> Secondly, I'm not for starving anyone, but I pray daily that God >> brings us justice and very soon. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephen Frye >> >> To: John A. Quayle ; >> rushtalk at csdco.com >> >> Cc: cwsiv at juno.com >> >> Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2022 11:33 am >> Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have >> happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? >> >> My mistake. I read your post claiming that they are all out to kill >> you and that you supported Carl?s goal to round them all up and >> starve them out. Either of these wrong? >> >> Get Outlook for iOS >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* John A. Quayle >> *Sent:* Friday, April 1, 2022 5:45:56 PM >> *To:* stephen.frye at outlook.com >> ; >> rushtalk at csdco.com >> >> *Cc:* cwsiv at juno.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have >> happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? >> Stephen, I cannot speak for anyone else and refuse to try. By the >> same token, I don't want anyone speaking for me, either. I'm not sure >> what conservatives you're speaking to or about, but all of my >> conservative friends here around me merely wish to be left alone to >> live their lives. Yes, there are people here (me included) who want >> the 2020 elections de-certified and a full investigation into the >> results - with SOUND reason. The other side wants to view this as a >> personal affront. This is only a single issue - make no mistake, >> there's NO COMMON GROUND! Let's look at the World Economic Forum or >> the World Government Forum (which occurred Wednesday >> >> ). >> These are run by truly wicked and evil people (think: Klaus Schwab). >> However, I refuse to get bent out of shape completely over this >> because the Bible tells that God is good and good will triumph over >> evil in end. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephen Frye >> >> To: John A. Quayle ; >> rushtalk at csdco.com >> >> Cc: cwsiv at juno.com >> >> Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 8:31 pm >> Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have >> happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? >> >> And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s >> post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit >> different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is >> little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree >> with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is >> counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. >> Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness >> shall indeed be our own self-destruction. ?There?s life elsewhere, >> and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creator will sit >> back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to >> destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, >> power, greed without wisdom and compassion. ?Right? ?We care about >> others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, >> or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of >> hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds >> superior ambition. ?We get smarter and smarter, but no wiser. It?s a >> me me me ?world. I want it, I want it bigger, better, and I want it >> now. Get in my way and I will run your a$$ over. But none of this >> distressed me as much as the fact that no one is willing to offer an >> olive branch. ?You proved that with your post - pointless to even >> try. Right? Exactly why we are in the situation we are. If everyone >> thinks the same, then you?re right; pointless. And we have all >> failed. Each and every one of us who refuses to budge. And if there >> are enough who think like this, and I believe there are, the rest >> will be sucked down with the chaff. >> >> Get Outlook for iOS >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* John A. Quayle >> *Sent:* Friday, April 1, 2022 4:29:05 PM >> *To:* stephen.frye at outlook.com >> ; >> rushtalk at csdco.com >> >> *Cc:* cwsiv at juno.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have >> happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? >> No, Stephen........you seem to think there's common ground with >> people who really want to see you dead. There really isn't. THAT'S >> reality..............whether you, Carl, or I want it (hatred) is >> immaterial. Only God can put a halt to it at this point. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephen Frye >> >> To: John A. Quayle ; >> rushtalk at csdco.com >> >> Cc: cwsiv at juno.com >> >> Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 5:49 pm >> Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have >> happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? >> >> What?s reality? ?That there will be wall, as no ee?ll put ourselves >> on one side, and liberals, slaves, criminals, illegals on the other? >> ?And we?ll starve them out? ?And then we can all pat ourselves on the >> back for the great Christians we are. ?To me, this thinking is more >> despicable than what we are seeing on the left. Two groups, hating >> each other. ?Carl wants the hatred. Do you want it, John. The hatred >> grows deeper by the day. ?Instead of an effort to end it, we feed it. >> ?And we know we are the ones in the right, right? ?God is in our >> side, so anything we do must be good. Rather, my guess is that God is >> disgusted with all of us. And rightfully so. And with whom is he more >> disgusted? ?Those who deny Him and vilify Him, or those who hate in >> His name? ?All the exhibitionists in Church on Sunday - showing their >> devotion to God and love for others, then as soon as church is over, >> get out of those silly clothes, put on work clothes, and get back to >> hating like the wonderful Christians we profess to be. ?Who is more >> dangerous? The ones who are open about their disbeliefs, or those who >> use God as their excuse to hate even more? Maybe this is indeed a >> test. But then I wonder who is being tested? All those silly things >> our Savior said -?love thine enemy ? live one another as I have loved >> you.? Just about the last words He spoke. The real message with which >> we are left. ?The new commandment. ?So much easier to hate, to >> accuse, to condemn. Point the finger at everyone else. Fight to >> remove the speck from our brother?s eye. Where does this end? Where >> do we want it to end? Maybe you?re right. Maybe all of this hatred >> for each other is the new reality. The exact antithesis to our >> Savior?s message. A complete denial. >> >> Get Outlook for iOS >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* John A. Quayle >> *Sent:* Friday, April 1, 2022 12:53:15 PM >> *To:* rushtalk at csdco.com >> >> *Cc:* stephen.frye at outlook.com >> ; >> cwsiv at juno.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have >> happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? >> Neither one, Stephen. It's merely reality................... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk >> >> To: rushtalk at csdco.com >> >> Cc: Stephen Frye >> ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} >> >> Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 3:45 pm >> Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have >> happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? >> >> We?ll, if this is an example of conservatism or isTrump?s philosophy, >> I want absolutely no part of either. ?This is contemptible. >> >> Get Outlook for iOS >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Rushtalk >> on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C >> Juno} via Rushtalk >> *Sent:* Friday, April 1, 2022 10:08:46 AM >> *To:* rushtalk at csdco.com >> >> *Cc:* Carl Spitzer {C Juno} >> *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have >> happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? >> On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 17:37 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: >>> Yes you do.? He is too controversial. He returns, he may accomplish >>> some good things -no doubt, but he will also cause an unprecedented >>> resurgence of division and hatred, and likely violence.? His fault?? >>> No. But it will be real.? I am sickened by the hatred in this >>> country. I think the true, gut-level hatred in this country was >>> started by Barrack Obama.? Even so, it exploded during the trump >>> years. Biden is still fueling it. If we see conservatives hated and >>> quashed now, wait for another Trump term.? I would much rather elect >>> a President who will at least try to mend it. >> >> Trump is mending America.? Ill take the hate and division. I want no >> unity with our domestic enemies.? If we must draw a border some place >> and say inside is America and outside is not.? Ship all liberals, >> slaves, criminals and illegals inside that wall and sell them no food >> or energy. And we will keep our freedom. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Carl? Spitzer >> ? ___????????????? _ >> ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? ()????? o >> |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_ >> |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? | >> ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ >> ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /| >> ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \| >> >> Democrat is SIN and TREASON >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rushtalk mailing list >> Rushtalk at csdco.com >> http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rushtalk mailing list >> Rushtalk at csdco.com >> http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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See JP Sears:? ?https://generaldispatch.whatfinger.com/awaken-with-jp-the-easy-way-for-liberals-to-apologize-for-being-wrong/? Bill White -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sun Apr 3 15:14:19 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 21:14:19 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Russia would not have invaded . . . In-Reply-To: <1059708158.956319.1649014332170@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1059708158.956319.1649014332170.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1059708158.956319.1649014332170@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: When my wife and I disagree about who is going to do the dishes, make the bed, take out the trash, the ?truth? is that I will lose. There are many, many, many disagreements where there are no facts involved. Or the facts themselves are in dispute. Usually the mistaken party is whoever I am arguing with. That?s usually the only applicable fact in any disagreement: I?m right, you?re wrong. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of William White via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 12:32:12 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: William White Subject: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Russia would not have invaded . . . The thing about disagreements is that usually one side is better aligned with truth (what is so) that the other. That tension can usually be reduced when the mistaken party apologizes to the person who had the greater claim to the facts and the logical conclusions based on those facts. Apology to one's fellow man tends to improve relationships and it is good practice for repentance in religion, without which spiritual progress is impossible. 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This process is now called taking the red pill.? ?J,P, Sears is onto something. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sun Apr 3 21:59:52 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 03:59:52 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: In-Reply-To: <127714607.1032592.1649043482312@mail.yahoo.com> References: <127714607.1032592.1649043482312.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <127714607.1032592.1649043482312@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This is a single scenario. There are many scenarios that this paradigm simply doesn?t fit. Not all disagreements revolve around accepted - or even known facts. Again referencing who was to do the dishes, I explained to her the traditional role of women in the household. She explained to me the difficulty of having my teeth rerouted after I pick then up off the floor. Maybe one of us wasn?t asking the right question in order to out the other in his/her place. And I looked, but I couldn?t find the right pill for the situation presented. The expressed scenario appears to presuppose that the disagreement is over established facts. Seldom the case. I submit that most disagreements are entered with the ?I?m right, you?re wrong, and you need to adjust your thinking.? Socrates can ask all the questions he wants. In most situations such questions, from either side, go unheeded. That?s where we need to push for truly open discussions. Going in with the attitude that ?I?m right, and my logic will prevail? is doomed before it starts. Today everyone believes that they are Socrates and refuse to accept anything different. The problem is that there id no one on the other side willing to let him play the ?I?m going to manipulate you into agreeing that I right?. It?s nice on paper, but it doesn?t work. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of William White via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 8:38:02 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: William White Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: In ancient Greece, Socrates (the one profiled by Plato) was unlikely to lose an argument. He sought to find a basic assumption that his adversary could agree with. From common ground, he interrogated the person until that person discovered his inconsistencies with his own assumptions he had mistakenly held as true. This dissonance helped the adversary to see the truth and his own deviation from it. The most appropriate next step was to correct his erroneous thinking and apologize to Socrates. This behavioral model is the optimistic outcome of every liberal who purports to investigate and to think. This process is now called taking the red pill. J,P, Sears is onto something. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sun Apr 3 22:02:12 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 04:02:12 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] Useless To Vote? In-Reply-To: <282893210.983883.1649028079900@mail.yahoo.com> References: <282893210.983883.1649028079900.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <282893210.983883.1649028079900@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Great report, but about the only thing this can hope to accomplish is to discourage even more voters from voting. I talk to so many people who simply believe that their vote doesn?t count. This reinforces that fallacy - or fact? Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of John A. Quayle via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 4:21:19 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: John A. Quayle Subject: [Rushtalk] Useless To Vote? [https://www.westernjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/ballot.jpg] Bombshell Election Report: Jaw-Dropping Number of Dead 'Voters' Revealed The Public Interest Legal Foundation is calling for the voter rolls to be cleaned up before the midterm elections. Read more? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sun Apr 3 22:06:32 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 04:06:32 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] Handguns Message-ID: Know what you get when you cross an Austrian handgun with an avacado? Glock-a-mole Get Outlook for iOS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Mon Apr 4 07:56:55 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 13:56:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] Useless To Vote? In-Reply-To: References: <282893210.983883.1649028079900.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <282893210.983883.1649028079900@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <691634785.1110131.1649080615763@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? I was Judge of Elections in my precinct for seven years. When I went to bed on Election night 2020 (about 12:30), Trump was ahead in Pennsylvania by 700k votes. Vote counting was stopped about an hour and a half later. I got up the next morning at approximately 8:30, turned on the TV and found that he'd lost. I'm no math genius, but I believe that's statistically impossible - especially when you consider they stopped counting! In January, Time magazine admitted that the elections were tampered with "in order to save democracy" (that's what they put in the story!). I promptly resigned my post and told the local county elections office why in an e-mail with a link to the Time story. If the left can get away with doing that - it appears that they have - there's no point in voting again, unless you fix this problem! -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: John A. Quayle Sent: Mon, Apr 4, 2022 12:02 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Useless To Vote? Great report, but about the only thing this can hope to accomplish is to discourage even more voters from voting. ?I talk to so many people who simply believe that their vote doesn?t count. ?This reinforces that fallacy - or fact? Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Rushtalk on behalf of John A. Quayle via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 4:21:19 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: John A. Quayle Subject: [Rushtalk] Useless To Vote?? | ? | | | | ? | | ? | | Bombshell Election Report: Jaw-Dropping Number of Dead 'Voters' Revealed | | ? | | The Public Interest Legal Foundation is calling for the voter rolls to be cleaned up before the midterm elections.Read more? | | ? | | ? | | | | | | | | | | | | | | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Mon Apr 4 07:58:53 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 13:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] Handguns In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1118729117.1113132.1649080733042@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? It's what my kids would call "a dad joke", but I like it! -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye Sent: Mon, Apr 4, 2022 12:06 am Subject: [Rushtalk] Handguns Know what you get when you cross an Austrian handgun with an avacado? 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Quayle Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 6:58:53 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Handguns It's what my kids would call "a dad joke", but I like it! -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye Sent: Mon, Apr 4, 2022 12:06 am Subject: [Rushtalk] Handguns Know what you get when you cross an Austrian handgun with an avacado? Glock-a-mole Get Outlook for iOS _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Mon Apr 4 09:46:11 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 15:46:11 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] Useless To Vote? In-Reply-To: <691634785.1110131.1649080615763@mail.yahoo.com> References: <282893210.983883.1649028079900.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <282893210.983883.1649028079900@mail.yahoo.com> <691634785.1110131.1649080615763@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I totally understand. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 6:56:55 AM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Useless To Vote? I was Judge of Elections in my precinct for seven years. When I went to bed on Election night 2020 (about 12:30), Trump was ahead in Pennsylvania by 700k votes. Vote counting was stopped about an hour and a half later. I got up the next morning at approximately 8:30, turned on the TV and found that he'd lost. I'm no math genius, but I believe that's statistically impossible - especially when you consider they stopped counting! In January, Time magazine admitted that the elections were tampered with "in order to save democracy" (that's what they put in the story!). I promptly resigned my post and told the local county elections office why in an e-mail with a link to the Time story. If the left can get away with doing that - it appears that they have - there's no point in voting again, unless you fix this problem! -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: John A. Quayle Sent: Mon, Apr 4, 2022 12:02 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Useless To Vote? Great report, but about the only thing this can hope to accomplish is to discourage even more voters from voting. I talk to so many people who simply believe that their vote doesn?t count. This reinforces that fallacy - or fact? Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of John A. Quayle via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 4:21:19 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: John A. Quayle Subject: [Rushtalk] Useless To Vote? [https://www.westernjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/ballot.jpg] Bombshell Election Report: Jaw-Dropping Number of Dead 'Voters' Revealed The Public Interest Legal Foundation is calling for the voter rolls to be cleaned up before the midterm elections. Read more? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Mon Apr 4 09:48:48 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 15:48:48 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] Useless To Vote? In-Reply-To: <691634785.1110131.1649080615763@mail.yahoo.com> References: <282893210.983883.1649028079900.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <282893210.983883.1649028079900@mail.yahoo.com> <691634785.1110131.1649080615763@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms Sounds more like a convenience store than a federal agency! Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 6:56:55 AM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Useless To Vote? I was Judge of Elections in my precinct for seven years. When I went to bed on Election night 2020 (about 12:30), Trump was ahead in Pennsylvania by 700k votes. Vote counting was stopped about an hour and a half later. I got up the next morning at approximately 8:30, turned on the TV and found that he'd lost. I'm no math genius, but I believe that's statistically impossible - especially when you consider they stopped counting! In January, Time magazine admitted that the elections were tampered with "in order to save democracy" (that's what they put in the story!). I promptly resigned my post and told the local county elections office why in an e-mail with a link to the Time story. If the left can get away with doing that - it appears that they have - there's no point in voting again, unless you fix this problem! -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: John A. Quayle Sent: Mon, Apr 4, 2022 12:02 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Useless To Vote? Great report, but about the only thing this can hope to accomplish is to discourage even more voters from voting. I talk to so many people who simply believe that their vote doesn?t count. This reinforces that fallacy - or fact? Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of John A. Quayle via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 4:21:19 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: John A. Quayle Subject: [Rushtalk] Useless To Vote? [https://www.westernjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/ballot.jpg] Bombshell Election Report: Jaw-Dropping Number of Dead 'Voters' Revealed The Public Interest Legal Foundation is calling for the voter rolls to be cleaned up before the midterm elections. Read more? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Mon Apr 4 12:14:46 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 18:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] Useless To Vote? In-Reply-To: References: <282893210.983883.1649028079900.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <282893210.983883.1649028079900@mail.yahoo.com> <691634785.1110131.1649080615763@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1007444365.1205903.1649096086887@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Exactly.............. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Sent: Mon, Apr 4, 2022 11:48 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Useless To Vote? Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms Sounds more like a convenience store than a federal agency! Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 6:56:55 AM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Useless To Vote????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? I was Judge of Elections in my precinct for seven years. When I went to bed on Election night 2020 (about 12:30), Trump was ahead in Pennsylvania by 700k votes. Vote counting was stopped about an hour and a half later. I got up the next morning at approximately 8:30, turned on the TV and found that he'd lost. I'm no math genius, but I believe that's statistically impossible - especially when you consider they stopped counting! In January, Time magazine admitted that the elections were tampered with "in order to save democracy" (that's what they put in the story!). I promptly resigned my post and told the local county elections office why in an e-mail with a link to the Time story. If the left can get away with doing that - it appears that they have - there's no point in voting again, unless you fix this problem! -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: John A. Quayle Sent: Mon, Apr 4, 2022 12:02 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Useless To Vote? Great report, but about the only thing this can hope to accomplish is to discourage even more voters from voting. ?I talk to so many people who simply believe that their vote doesn?t count. ?This reinforces that fallacy - or fact? Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Rushtalk on behalf of John A. Quayle via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 4:21:19 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: John A. Quayle Subject: [Rushtalk] Useless To Vote?? | ? | | | | ? | | ? | | Bombshell Election Report: Jaw-Dropping Number of Dead 'Voters' Revealed | | ? | | The Public Interest Legal Foundation is calling for the voter rolls to be cleaned up before the midterm elections.Read more? | | ? | | ? | | | | | | | | | | | | | | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:30:02 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. 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As the Senate confirmation hearings of Biden Supreme Court nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson have gotten underway in DC, corporate media outlets have taken to steadfastly defending Jackson and her judicial record regarding pedophiles. Before the start of confirmation hearings, Missouri Senator Josh Hawley began publicly exposing Ketanji Brown Jackson?s far-left judicial record, showing that she has been notoriously soft on convicted pedophiles throughout her time in the legal field. As far back as law school, Jackson was even opposed to making convicted sex offenders register and has referred to pedophiles as a ?community.? In one particularly disturbing case profiled by Hawley, a convicted child pornography offender was let off the hook after serving just 3 months in jail, thanks to Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson. Sentencing guidelines recommended he serve 10 years. In other child-related cases, despite guidelines at times suggesting convicted offenders spend upwards of a decade in prison, Ketanji Brown Jackson dolled out the lowest possible punishment, sometimes adding up to less than a year behind bars for those who hurt kids in the worst way. Hawley posted the information to Twitter and brought it up again on the first day of Senate confirmation hearings, leaving corporate media outlets scrambling to ?fact-check? him, but finding themselves unable to call him a liar as the information Hawley is citing is laid out in Jackson?s own court documents. ?Supreme Court confirmation hearings for Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson open this week amid a flurry of misleading allegations by Republican Sen. Josh Hawley,? ABC News reported yesterday in a ?fact-check? piece, before admitting in a subsequent paragraph that ?court records show that Jackson did impose lighter sentences [against pedophiles] than federal guidelines suggested.? Along with ABC, a chorus of corporate media outlets piled on Hawley, claiming to be ?fact-checking? him but admitting all the while that Jackson?s record on pedophiles is soft, often excusing her record by making comparisons to other judges with similar histories, none of whom have been nominated to sit on the Supreme Court. Even Googling Hawley?s name will lead page after of liberal ?fact-checkers? defending Ketanji Brown Jackson?s record on pedophilia and attacking the Missouri Senator, including the supposedly conservative National Review. Read Josh Hawley?s Tweets Laying Out Ketanji Brown Jackson?s Disturbing Judicial Record: https://nationalfile.com/corporate-media-defends-ketanji-brown-jackson-for-letting-pedophiles-off-easy/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Through a combination of effective use of executive power and working directly with voters, McGeachin hopes to solidify Idaho as a ?ruby red state.? In Idaho, the offices of governor and lieutenant governor are elected separately. When the governor is out of the state, all the office?s duties and responsibilities fall to the lieutenant governor. When Little left Idaho to attend the Republican Governors Association conference in May 2021, McGeachin issued an executive order that prohibited mask mandates from being imposed throughout the state. ?Today, as acting Governor of the State of Idaho, I signed an Executive Order to protect the rights and liberties of individuals and businesses by prohibiting the state and its political subdivisions ? including public schools ? from imposing mask mandates in our state,? McGeachin wrote in a tweet at the time. The order, which was issued without Little?s knowledge, was rescinded as soon as he returned to the state. Little referred to the move as an ?irresponsible, self-serving political stunt.? Despite Little?s objections, the move against mandates has aged quite well, data shows. At the time, only Florida Governor Ron DeSantis had issued a ban on statewide mask mandates. Although some states never issued a statewide mandate, DeSantis took the additional step of preventing municipalities from issuing their own. By October 2021, Florida was experiencing some of the lowest case rates in the nation. Most notably, the state was recording national lows while others, such as New York, fared worse despite having some of the nation?s most draconian pandemic restrictions in place. Lt. Governor McGeachin believes that Idaho should be leading the way for red states, including Florida, and points to her ?outside the box? thinking last May as proof of her ability to lead the state in that direction. ?Idaho is a ruby red conservative state in terms of the people, but with weak Republican leadership we?re becoming more of a purple state,? McGeachin told National File. ?Why is Idaho not showing Florida how to lead? There is no reason why we shouldn?t be a trend-setting red state.? Idaho is the fastest growing state in the nation, with a population increase of 2.12% from 2019, according to 2020 Census data. McGeachin wants Idaho, like Florida, to become an attractive destination for conservative Americans who are fleeing blue states in droves. ?When I travel the state, I?ve found that these people are some of the most involved,? McGeachin said of Idaho?s new arrivals. ?I?ve had multiple people say things like ?I came to Idaho because it?s such a conservative state?, and they?re shocked to learn that the same policies are taking root here,? she continued. ?Their eyes are wide open to what they fled.? McGeachin does not believe that Governor Little governs according to the needs and wants of Idaho?s fast-growing ?ruby red? electorate. ?He believes in the masks and in the mandates. He does not take a strong stand for conservative principles,? she said of Governor Little. Last November, Lt. Governor McGeachin received former President Trump?s endorsement. ?Janice is great on Election Integrity, will always fight for strong Borders, our cherished Second Amendment, American Manufacturing, School Choice, and our wonderful American FARMERS!? Trump wrote in a statement at the time. McGeachin believes that Idaho?s economic and trend-setting potential can only be reached if election integrity issues are fully addressed. ?I support full forensic audits in all of our elections,? McGeachin told National File. ?The people of Idaho want to feel that their vote matters and that their leaders are representing what they voted for.? Idaho?s primary election is slated for Tuesday, May 17. https://nationalfile.com/lt-governor-janice-mcgeachin-wants-idaho-to-be-a-trend-setting-red-state/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:34:53 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. 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Sickening far beyond words.............human trafficking has reached immense proportions these days and this is precisely why! -----Original Message----- From: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk To: RushTalk Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Tue, Apr 5, 2022 1:31 pm Subject: [Rushtalk] Corporate Media Defends Ketanji Brown Jackson for Letting Pedophiles off Easy Corporate Media Defends Ketanji Brown Jackson for Letting Pedophiles off Easy by Frankie Stockes? Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Corporate media is going out of its way to defend Joe Biden?s Supreme Court nominee, Ketanji Brown Jackson, from criticism regarding her judicial record, which shows that as a judge she let pedophiles off easy, sentencing them to terms well below the guidelines. As the Senate confirmation hearings of Biden Supreme Court nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson have gotten underway in DC, corporate media outlets have taken to steadfastly defending Jackson and her judicial record regarding pedophiles. Before the start of confirmation hearings, Missouri Senator Josh Hawley began publicly exposing Ketanji Brown Jackson?s far-left judicial record, showing that she has been notoriously soft on convicted pedophiles throughout her time in the legal field. As far back as law school, Jackson was even opposed to making convicted sex offenders register and has referred to pedophiles as a ?community.? In one particularly disturbing case profiled by Hawley, a convicted child pornography offender was let off the hook after serving just 3 months in jail, thanks to Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson. Sentencing guidelines recommended he serve 10 years. In other child-related cases, despite guidelines at times suggesting convicted offenders spend upwards of a decade in prison, Ketanji Brown Jackson dolled out the lowest possible punishment, sometimes adding up to less than a year behind bars for those who hurt kids in the worst way. Hawley posted the information to Twitter and brought it up again on the first day of Senate confirmation hearings, leaving corporate media outlets scrambling to ?fact-check? him, but finding themselves unable to call him a liar as the information Hawley is citing is laid out in Jackson?s own court documents. ?Supreme Court confirmation hearings for Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson open this week amid a flurry of misleading allegations by Republican Sen. Josh Hawley,? ABC News reported yesterday in a ?fact-check? piece, before admitting in a subsequent paragraph that ?court records show that Jackson did impose lighter sentences [against pedophiles] than federal guidelines suggested.? Along with ABC, a chorus of corporate media outlets piled on Hawley, claiming to be ?fact-checking? him but admitting all the while that Jackson?s record on pedophiles is soft, often excusing her record by making comparisons to other judges with similar histories, none of whom have been nominated to sit on the Supreme Court. Even Googling Hawley?s name will lead page after of liberal ?fact-checkers? defending Ketanji Brown Jackson?s record on pedophilia and attacking the Missouri Senator, including the supposedly conservative National Review. Read Josh Hawley?s Tweets Laying Out Ketanji Brown Jackson?s Disturbing Judicial Record: https://nationalfile.com/corporate-media-defends-ketanji-brown-jackson-for-letting-pedophiles-off-easy/ _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Tue Apr 5 19:00:46 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 01:00:46 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] Corporate Media Defends Ketanji Brown Jackson for Letting Pedophiles off Easy In-Reply-To: <1465923985.1566098.1649185027596@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1649179882.9220.5.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1465923985.1566098.1649185027596@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: John, I agree with your sentiment. Her conduct seems abhorrent. I wasn?t there, so I have to rely on our unbiased media to keep me up to date. My only reservation with your post is that you close with a very strong cause and effect relationship that, at its base, is far different from the actions of one judge and large corporations. Like most other crime, it?s all about lust and money. The law, regardless of how it?s applied, is meaningless. People willing to do these things pay zero attention to law, judges, consequences. They have no conscience or concept of remorse. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of John A. Quayle via Rushtalk Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 11:57:07 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: John A. Quayle ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Corporate Media Defends Ketanji Brown Jackson for Letting Pedophiles off Easy Sickening far beyond words.............human trafficking has reached immense proportions these days and this is precisely why! -----Original Message----- From: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk To: RushTalk Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Tue, Apr 5, 2022 1:31 pm Subject: [Rushtalk] Corporate Media Defends Ketanji Brown Jackson for Letting Pedophiles off Easy Corporate Media Defends Ketanji Brown Jackson for Letting Pedophiles off Easy by Frankie Stockes [Corporate Media Defends Ketanji Brown Jackson for Letting Pedophiles off Easy] Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Corporate media is going out of its way to defend Joe Biden?s Supreme Court nominee, Ketanji Brown Jackson, from criticism regarding her judicial record, which shows that as a judge she let pedophiles off easy, sentencing them to terms well below the guidelines. As the Senate confirmation hearings of Biden Supreme Court nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson have gotten underway in DC, corporate media outlets have taken to steadfastly defending Jackson and her judicial record regarding pedophiles. Before the start of confirmation hearings, Missouri Senator Josh Hawley began publicly exposing Ketanji Brown Jackson?s far-left judicial record, showing that she has been notoriously soft on convicted pedophiles throughout her time in the legal field. As far back as law school, Jackson was even opposed to making convicted sex offenders register and has referred to pedophiles as a ?community.? In one particularly disturbing case profiled by Hawley, a convicted child pornography offender was let off the hook after serving just 3 months in jail, thanks to Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson. Sentencing guidelines recommended he serve 10 years. In other child-related cases, despite guidelines at times suggesting convicted offenders spend upwards of a decade in prison, Ketanji Brown Jackson dolled out the lowest possible punishment, sometimes adding up to less than a year behind bars for those who hurt kids in the worst way. Hawley posted the information to Twitter and brought it up again on the first day of Senate confirmation hearings, leaving corporate media outlets scrambling to ?fact-check? him, but finding themselves unable to call him a liar as the information Hawley is citing is laid out in Jackson?s own court documents. ?Supreme Court confirmation hearings for Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson open this week amid a flurry of misleading allegations by Republican Sen. Josh Hawley,? ABC News reported yesterday in a ?fact-check? piece, before admitting in a subsequent paragraph that ?court records show that Jackson did impose lighter sentences [against pedophiles] than federal guidelines suggested.? Along with ABC, a chorus of corporate media outlets piled on Hawley, claiming to be ?fact-checking? him but admitting all the while that Jackson?s record on pedophiles is soft, often excusing her record by making comparisons to other judges with similar histories, none of whom have been nominated to sit on the Supreme Court. Even Googling Hawley?s name will lead page after of liberal ?fact-checkers? defending Ketanji Brown Jackson?s record on pedophilia and attacking the Missouri Senator, including the supposedly conservative National Review. Read Josh Hawley?s Tweets Laying Out Ketanji Brown Jackson?s Disturbing Judicial Record: https://nationalfile.com/corporate-media-defends-ketanji-brown-jackson-for-letting-pedophiles-off-easy/ _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My only reservation with your post is that you close with a very strong cause and effect relationship that, at its base, is far different from the actions of one judge and large corporations. Like most other crime, it?s all about lust and money. The law, regardless of how it?s applied, is meaningless. People willing to do these things pay zero attention to law, judges, consequences. ?They have no conscience or concept of remorse. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Rushtalk on behalf of John A. Quayle via Rushtalk Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 11:57:07 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: John A. Quayle ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Corporate Media Defends Ketanji Brown Jackson for Letting Pedophiles off Easy???? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Sickening far beyond words.............human trafficking has reached immense proportions these days and this is precisely why! -----Original Message----- From: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk To: RushTalk Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Tue, Apr 5, 2022 1:31 pm Subject: [Rushtalk] Corporate Media Defends Ketanji Brown Jackson for Letting Pedophiles off Easy Corporate Media Defends Ketanji Brown Jackson for Letting Pedophiles off Easy by Frankie Stockes? Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Corporate media is going out of its way to defend Joe Biden?s Supreme Court nominee, Ketanji Brown Jackson, from criticism regarding her judicial record, which shows that as a judge she let pedophiles off easy, sentencing them to terms well below the guidelines. As the Senate confirmation hearings of Biden Supreme Court nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson have gotten underway in DC, corporate media outlets have taken to steadfastly defending Jackson and her judicial record regarding pedophiles. Before the start of confirmation hearings, Missouri Senator Josh Hawley began publiclyexposing Ketanji Brown Jackson?s far-left judicial record, showing that she has been notoriously soft on convicted pedophiles throughout her time in the legal field. As far back as law school, Jackson was even opposed to making convicted sex offenders register and has referred to pedophiles as a ?community.? In one particularly disturbing case profiled by Hawley, a convicted child pornography offender was let off the hook after serving just 3 months in jail, thanks to Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson. Sentencing guidelines recommended he serve 10 years. In other child-related cases, despite guidelines at times suggesting convicted offenders spend upwards of a decade in prison, Ketanji Brown Jackson dolled out the lowest possible punishment, sometimes adding up to less than a year behind bars for those who hurt kids in the worst way. Hawley posted the information to Twitter and brought it up again on the first day of Senate confirmation hearings, leaving corporate media outlets scrambling to ?fact-check? him, but finding themselves unable to call him a liar as the information Hawley is citing is laid out in Jackson?s own court documents. ?Supreme Court confirmation hearings for Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson open this week amid a flurry of misleading allegations by Republican Sen. Josh Hawley,? ABC News reported yesterday in a ?fact-check? piece, before admitting in a subsequent paragraph that ?court records show that Jackson did impose lighter sentences [against pedophiles] than federal guidelines suggested.? Along with ABC, a chorus of corporate media outlets piled on Hawley, claiming to be ?fact-checking? him but admitting all the while that Jackson?s record on pedophiles is soft, often excusing her record by making comparisons to other judges with similar histories, none of whom have been nominated to sit on the Supreme Court. Even Googling Hawley?s name will lead page after of liberal ?fact-checkers? defending Ketanji Brown Jackson?s record on pedophilia and attacking the Missouri Senator, including the supposedly conservative National Review. Read Josh Hawley?s Tweets Laying Out Ketanji Brown Jackson?s Disturbing Judicial Record: https://nationalfile.com/corporate-media-defends-ketanji-brown-jackson-for-letting-pedophiles-off-easy/ _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Quayle ; cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Tue, Apr 5, 2022 9:00 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Corporate Media Defends Ketanji Brown Jackson for Letting Pedophiles off Easy John, I agree with your sentiment. Her conduct seems abhorrent. I wasn?t there, so I have to rely on our unbiased media to keep me up to date. My only reservation with your post is that you close with a very strong cause and effect relationship that, at its base, is far different from the actions of one judge and large corporations. Like most other crime, it?s all about lust and money. The law, regardless of how it?s applied, is meaningless. People willing to do these things pay zero attention to law, judges, consequences. They have no conscience or concept of remorse. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of John A. Quayle via Rushtalk Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 11:57:07 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: John A. Quayle ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Corporate Media Defends Ketanji Brown Jackson for Letting Pedophiles off Easy Sickening far beyond words.............human trafficking has reached immense proportions these days and this is precisely why! -----Original Message----- From: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk To: RushTalk Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Tue, Apr 5, 2022 1:31 pm Subject: [Rushtalk] Corporate Media Defends Ketanji Brown Jackson for Letting Pedophiles off Easy Corporate Media Defends Ketanji Brown Jackson for Letting Pedophiles off Easy by Frankie Stockes [Corporate Media Defends Ketanji Brown Jackson for Letting Pedophiles off Easy] Share on FacebookShare on Twitter Corporate media is going out of its way to defend Joe Biden?s Supreme Court nominee, Ketanji Brown Jackson, from criticism regarding her judicial record, which shows that as a judge she let pedophiles off easy, sentencing them to terms well below the guidelines. As the Senate confirmation hearings of Biden Supreme Court nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson have gotten underway in DC, corporate media outlets have taken to steadfastly defending Jackson and her judicial record regarding pedophiles. Before the start of confirmation hearings, Missouri Senator Josh Hawley began publicly exposing Ketanji Brown Jackson?s far-left judicial record, showing that she has been notoriously soft on convicted pedophiles throughout her time in the legal field. As far back as law school, Jackson was even opposed to making convicted sex offenders register and has referred to pedophiles as a ?community.? In one particularly disturbing case profiled by Hawley, a convicted child pornography offender was let off the hook after serving just 3 months in jail, thanks to Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson. Sentencing guidelines recommended he serve 10 years. In other child-related cases, despite guidelines at times suggesting convicted offenders spend upwards of a decade in prison, Ketanji Brown Jackson dolled out the lowest possible punishment, sometimes adding up to less than a year behind bars for those who hurt kids in the worst way. Hawley posted the information to Twitter and brought it up again on the first day of Senate confirmation hearings, leaving corporate media outlets scrambling to ?fact-check? him, but finding themselves unable to call him a liar as the information Hawley is citing is laid out in Jackson?s own court documents. ?Supreme Court confirmation hearings for Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson open this week amid a flurry of misleading allegations by Republican Sen. Josh Hawley,? ABC News reported yesterday in a ?fact-check? piece, before admitting in a subsequent paragraph that ?court records show that Jackson did impose lighter sentences [against pedophiles] than federal guidelines suggested.? Along with ABC, a chorus of corporate media outlets piled on Hawley, claiming to be ?fact-checking? him but admitting all the while that Jackson?s record on pedophiles is soft, often excusing her record by making comparisons to other judges with similar histories, none of whom have been nominated to sit on the Supreme Court. Even Googling Hawley?s name will lead page after of liberal ?fact-checkers? defending Ketanji Brown Jackson?s record on pedophilia and attacking the Missouri Senator, including the supposedly conservative National Review. Read Josh Hawley?s Tweets Laying Out Ketanji Brown Jackson?s Disturbing Judicial Record: https://nationalfile.com/corporate-media-defends-ketanji-brown-jackson-for-letting-pedophiles-off-easy/ _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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CWSIV From cwsiv at juno.com Wed Apr 6 08:53:34 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2022 07:53:34 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] Corporate Media Defends Ketanji Brown Jackson for Letting Pedophiles off Easy Message-ID: <1649256814.9220.24.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Corporate Media Defends Ketanji Brown Jackson for Letting Pedophiles off Easy by Frankie Stockes Corporate Media Defends Ketanji Brown Jackson for Letting Pedophiles off Easy Corporate media is going out of its way to defend Joe Biden?s Supreme Court nominee, Ketanji Brown Jackson, from criticism regarding her judicial record, which shows that as a judge she let pedophiles off easy, sentencing them to terms well below the guidelines. As the Senate confirmation hearings of Biden Supreme Court nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson have gotten underway in DC, corporate media outlets have taken to steadfastly defending Jackson and her judicial record regarding pedophiles. Before the start of confirmation hearings, Missouri Senator Josh Hawley began publicly exposing Ketanji Brown Jackson?s far-left judicial record, showing that she has been notoriously soft on convicted pedophiles throughout her time in the legal field. As far back as law school, Jackson was even opposed to making convicted sex offenders register and has referred to pedophiles as a ?community.? In one particularly disturbing case profiled by Hawley, a convicted child pornography offender was let off the hook after serving just 3 months in jail, thanks to Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson. Sentencing guidelines recommended he serve 10 years. In other child-related cases, despite guidelines at times suggesting convicted offenders spend upwards of a decade in prison, Ketanji Brown Jackson dolled out the lowest possible punishment, sometimes adding up to less than a year behind bars for those who hurt kids in the worst way. Hawley posted the information to Twitter and brought it up again on the first day of Senate confirmation hearings, leaving corporate media outlets scrambling to ?fact-check? him, but finding themselves unable to call him a liar as the information Hawley is citing is laid out in Jackson?s own court documents. ?Supreme Court confirmation hearings for Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson open this week amid a flurry of misleading allegations by Republican Sen. Josh Hawley,? ABC News reported yesterday in a ?fact-check? piece, before admitting in a subsequent paragraph that ?court records show that Jackson did impose lighter sentences [against pedophiles] than federal guidelines suggested.? Along with ABC, a chorus of corporate media outlets piled on Hawley, claiming to be ?fact-checking? him but admitting all the while that Jackson?s record on pedophiles is soft, often excusing her record by making comparisons to other judges with similar histories, none of whom have been nominated to sit on the Supreme Court. Even Googling Hawley?s name will lead page after of liberal ?fact-checkers? defending Ketanji Brown Jackson?s record on pedophilia and attacking the Missouri Senator, including the supposedly conservative National Review. Read Josh Hawley?s Tweets Laying Out Ketanji Brown Jackson?s Disturbing Judicial Record: https://nationalfile.com/corporate-media-defends-ketanji-brown-jackson-for-letting-pedophiles-off-easy/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Biden's creepy hair sniffing seems to indicate some strange passions in that family as well. One can only hope the stuff Putin now has on the Biden family will be published outside of Russia on the internet to expose that family as well. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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People willing to do these > things pay zero attention to law, judges, consequences. They have no > conscience or concept of remorse. The best society can do is make the creeps we catch regret being born by applying some slow and painful method of public execution. Of course in the catholic shame I would crucify the creeps upside down and before they die castrate the perp and cauterize the place so they do not mercifly die of blood loss. Not that the ACLU would allow it but IMHO appropriate. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This judge is the worst kind of enabler one we can not prove guilty of a crime but morally no better for coddling these creeps. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Wed Apr 6 13:14:51 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 19:14:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] More On 2020 Cheating In-Reply-To: <1649256766.9220.23.camel@linux-7k5b.site> References: <1580831662.1525006.1649179360072.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1580831662.1525006.1649179360072@mail.yahoo.com> <2064058281.1528780.1649179802982@mail.yahoo.com> <1649256766.9220.23.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: <1474353700.1887657.1649272491224@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Bill Cinton's mother was the illegitimate offspring of Winthrop Rockefeller and his mistress.................according to the Clinton Chronicles. -----Original Message----- From: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Wed, Apr 6, 2022 10:52 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] More On 2020 Cheating Rockefeller is more trouble dead than he was alive. Both ObombA and Biden are members with the Clintons and quite a few RINO. CWSIV _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Wed Apr 6 14:48:33 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 20:48:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] Today's Entertainment References: <455018366.1914340.1649278113754.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <455018366.1914340.1649278113754@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? The Van Zant brothers are really famous in southern rock circles. Ronnie was the original lead singer for Lynyrd Skynyrd before he perished in a plane crash in 1977. Little brother, Johnny replaced him until the band retired in 2019. Third brother, Donnie was lead singer of .38 Special. Johnny and Donnie put their heads together for a new anthem for their home state of Florida. Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuWx8hCMw-o -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of John A. Quayle via Rushtalk Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2022 12:14:51 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: John A. Quayle ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] More On 2020 Cheating Bill Cinton's mother was the illegitimate offspring of Winthrop Rockefeller and his mistress.................according to the Clinton Chronicles. -----Original Message----- From: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Wed, Apr 6, 2022 10:52 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] More On 2020 Cheating Rockefeller is more trouble dead than he was alive. Both ObombA and Biden are members with the Clintons and quite a few RINO. CWSIV _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <6a4cb19c-86a8-54b3-2560-1a3a019c3a66@bellsouth.net> References: <1689674836.506113.1648345867109.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1689674836.506113.1648345867109@mail.yahoo.com> <6a4cb19c-86a8-54b3-2560-1a3a019c3a66@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <1649338568.30529.16.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Sun, 2022-03-27 at 10:56 -0400, Dennis Putnam via Rushtalk wrote: > So you are saying you are required to hire certain felons? For > example, banks must hire bank robbers? Like the former Boy Scouts being required to hire gays with a few child molesters sneaking in the back door. I think America has become very sick under the influence of Democrats. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So do not ignore a article because you are scared of catchy titles. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Thu Apr 7 07:47:46 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2022 06:47:46 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] The truth about electric cars In-Reply-To: <797785871.1185066.1648579559092@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1648579041.2242.5.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <797785871.1185066.1648579559092@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1649339266.30529.25.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Tue, 2022-03-29 at 18:45 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: > I'll never drive one. I'm one of those people > who think that there is already too much electronic gadgetry onboard > gasoline vehicles already. Too much that can go wrong and be expensive > to fix. I don't need a backup camera or some program that reads me > text messages and e-mail to me while I'm driving. I don't need tire > pressure sensors to know I've got a flat tire. Transportation should > be simple and repairable by the driver with a modicum of > tools................... I agree keep it simple stupid you might have to explain to a blue city cop. Its reliability that is the issue for me. I have been told some cars hide the computer inside the gas tank. Now what genius thought it was a good idea to put something which might short out into a liquid explosive? If the car is hit by lightning or a power line what is to prevent a big boom. More Ford Pintos we do not need. Cop cams aka idiot driver cams fore and aft do make sense as I was recently cut off in traffic by a rude SUV driver. It would have been nice to send a video to the police. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Thu Apr 7 07:55:06 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2022 06:55:06 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] The truth about electric cars In-Reply-To: References: <1648579041.2242.5.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <797785871.1185066.1648579559092@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1649339706.30529.32.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 18:16 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: > Valid concern, but my last Lexus went 100% issue free for over 200,000 > miles with nothing more than oil changes and most of the scheduled > maintence, three brake jobs. I think five sets of tires, wipers. Etc., > but zero repairs. Great news. Quite unlike Lee Iococca's Salable Junk mothers Plymouth Horizon which when resold to a young couple had three inches of repair papers on it. The Mazda 323 was much better until an old man T-boned me and Mercury Insurance screwed me. Toyota Camry 1993 bought used had very few but twice a transmission ouch plus 2k in smog crap, totaled out by former baggage ape mishandling damaged drivers door. Got lucky settlement got the cost of previous cars repairs out and put that into the much newer 2005 Camry whose car fax looks pretty good though lacking in tune up and brake job reports but that is routine small stuff. Not sure about these electric toys being reliable after the news from Texas about freezing the battery's making them a no go. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Thu Apr 7 07:57:37 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2022 06:57:37 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] Has Anyone Seen Carl Lately?!? In-Reply-To: References: <1500446513.849200.1648948064840.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1500446513.849200.1648948064840@mail.yahoo.com> <1648949267.28469.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: <1649339857.30529.33.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Sun, 2022-04-03 at 16:08 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: > Sons and I watched that movie years ago and laughed our butts off. 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The enemies of Christ in this world are coincidentally if you will the enemies of Trump and enemies of America. CWSIV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Thu Apr 7 08:02:52 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2022 07:02:52 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1649340172.30529.38.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Sat, 2022-04-02 at 00:31 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: > And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s > post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit > different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There > is little difference in desires of what should befall those who > disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think > God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole > world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our > self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. There?s > life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The > Creatir will sit back and try to predict how long it will take > ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a > result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. > Right? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, > when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was > never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior > intellect breeds superior ambition. W What is wrong with a division of the land as I can see no way for the Democrats to return to America and be for the country. They have turned their backs on Thomas Jefferson and embraced Stalinism so I doubt peaceful coexistance is possible anymore. All other solutions to the communist infestation involve violence. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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No just let them take their part of the land and live as they choose without red meat, fossle fuels nuclear power, freedom, and with criminals, high taxes, and tyranny with wind and solar power. I simply proposed the most useless land the East Coast. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Quayle wrote: > Very much so....................first, the > radical left (IOWs, the people running the country now) want all of us > dead - those are Dan Bongino's words. Bongino says, "they hate you and > want you dead." Secondly, I'm not for starving anyone, but I pray > daily that God brings us justice and very soon. Well as Democrat is Sin aka aborticide, tobacco settlement, criminal coddling, high taxes, anti medical freedom, anti gun and anti Christ as mainstays of policy the justice they received if divine in nature is likely to resemble what happened to the Cities of the Plains in the time of Abraham. The cities were full of liberalism and called Sodom and Gomorrah. 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But that?s a > whole new area of philosophy I won?t get into. Not at all. The people of Israel once in the Holy Land had freewill and when they abused their freedom the punishments sometimes at the hands of man were terrible. Lets not forget the Cities of the Plains in the time of Abraham. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Division is peaceful. Perhaps however due to their sins a peaceful solution is not the will of GOD. I am waiting for the decision. It is not mine to make but we will all participate no neutrality is possible unless you leave the country. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Thu Apr 7 10:31:50 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2022 09:31:50 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648910704.14228.36.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: <1649349110.4617.5.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Sat, 2022-04-02 at 15:59 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: > We certainly do like to force our beliefs on others. No shortage of > that attitude. Some of what you write has some significance, but it > is a far cry from the viciousness of your original post. I wait for the solution and its true I doubt peaceful solution is possible and propose how that could work out. 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Who?s going to do all of this? Trump? Doesn?t he live in Florida? Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2022 7:02:52 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Sat, 2022-04-02 at 00:31 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creatir will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. Right? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. W What is wrong with a division of the land as I can see no way for the Democrats to return to America and be for the country. They have turned their backs on Thomas Jefferson and embraced Stalinism so I doubt peaceful coexistance is possible anymore. 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URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Thu Apr 7 10:55:26 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 16:55:26 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_n?= =?windows-1252?q?ot_have_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=91I_know_Put?= =?windows-1252?q?in_very_well=92?= In-Reply-To: <1649339954.30529.35.camel@linux-7k5b.site> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1464103642.1469986.1648662348990@mail.yahoo.com> <1150270813.53923.1648670548434@mail.yahoo.com> <245546027.48647.1648671276434@mail.yahoo.com> <1648910209.14228.28.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1649339954.30529.35.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: That?s not what you wrote, Carl. You wrote that if I am against Trump, then I am against Christ. That?s a true non sequitur. Your conclusion in no way derived from your premise. It?s remarks like these that feed the hatred in this country. Is the converse true? Maybe. Is the inverse true? Maybe. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2022 6:59:14 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Sat, 2022-04-02 at 16:01 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: So Trump is synonymous with Christ? That is ignorant and insulting. No one needs equate any human with Christ. Absolutely disgusting. Not at all its a reference to having the same enemies. The enemies of Christ in this world are coincidentally if you will the enemies of Trump and enemies of America. CWSIV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Thu Apr 7 11:01:46 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 17:01:46 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] The truth about electric cars In-Reply-To: <1649339266.30529.25.camel@linux-7k5b.site> References: <1648579041.2242.5.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <797785871.1185066.1648579559092@mail.yahoo.com> <1649339266.30529.25.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: Computers are not inside the gas tank. Gas fumes and electricity are a bad combination. Besides, all-electric cars don?t have gas tanks. Hybrids do, but the computer is still not in the gas tank. That?s akin to a screen door on a submarine. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2022 6:47:46 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] The truth about electric cars On Tue, 2022-03-29 at 18:45 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: I'll never drive one. I'm one of those people who think that there is already too much electronic gadgetry onboard gasoline vehicles already. Too much that can go wrong and be expensive to fix. I don't need a backup camera or some program that reads me text messages and e-mail to me while I'm driving. I don't need tire pressure sensors to know I've got a flat tire. Transportation should be simple and repairable by the driver with a modicum of tools................... I agree keep it simple stupid you might have to explain to a blue city cop. Its reliability that is the issue for me. I have been told some cars hide the computer inside the gas tank. Now what genius thought it was a good idea to put something which might short out into a liquid explosive? If the car is hit by lightning or a power line what is to prevent a big boom. More Ford Pintos we do not need. Cop cams aka idiot driver cams fore and aft do make sense as I was recently cut off in traffic by a rude SUV driver. It would have been nice to send a video to the police. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Thu Apr 7 12:04:20 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 18:04:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1649340172.30529.38.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: <1799304774.2175269.1649354660983@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Stephen, God love ya, but I want no parts of California! The Pelosi crime syndicate runs things there. No, thanks! I have an empty lot just south of Tampa. I'll go there, instead............ -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Thu, Apr 7, 2022 12:50 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll aside from the silliness, you?ll never get 60% of the people to agree on which 50% they want to live. ?You to tell John he has to leave Pennsylvania for the west coast - John, house two doors down is for sale. ?Or tell Dennis he has to leave Georgia? ?Who?s going to do all of this? ?Trump? ?Doesn?t he live in Florida? Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2022 7:02:52 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well??On Sat, 2022-04-02 at 00:31 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: And Dennis calls me a pessimist.? But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different.? Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this.? There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us.? We are just as guilty.? And God stop it?? I think God is counting on it.? It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world.? Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction.? There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creatir will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again.? Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion.? Right?? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us.? I believe such was never the intention - of hope.? But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition.? W What is wrong with a division of the land as I can see no way for the Democrats to return to America and be for the country. They have turned their backs on Thomas Jefferson and embraced Stalinism so I doubt peaceful coexistance is possible anymore. All other solutions to the communist infestation involve violence. | -- Carl? Spitzer ? ___????????????? _???????????????????????????????????? ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? ()????? o??????????????????? |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_?? |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? |? ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /|?????????? ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \|?? Democrat is SIN and TREASON | _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Thu Apr 7 12:36:03 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 18:36:03 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?windows-1252?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_n?= =?windows-1252?q?ot_have_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=91I_know_Put?= =?windows-1252?q?in_very_well=92?= In-Reply-To: <1799304774.2175269.1649354660983@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1649340172.30529.38.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1799304774.2175269.1649354660983@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: But I think Carl wants to put the libs on the east coast, methinks that implies ?go west young man?. I grew up in Michigan. Navy brought me to Alameda California in 1975. I kept entertaining moving back, but no good jobs there. Years later (different years) my dad, then mom, then baby brother grew terminal - all in Februaries, and those visits back convinced me I could not handle another winter. Wife and I are both disillusioned and dismayed at the mess that is California. But we?re too entrenched, and too old to move. Our kids are in San Diego, Fresno, Tucson. We see our European adopted students more than we see our own kids and grand kids. We have McDoofus as a governor. Among his many foibles is releasing felons from prison. One of them, less than a month out of prison, in possession of highly illegal weapons, played a major roll in the Sacramento shooting, but, as McDoofus explained, it was the guns. Point here is that many counties (Sheriffs) are seeing the light and are, to the dismay of McDoofus, issuing more ccw?s. Our county included. Hosting so many exchange students we are on a first name basis with local, state, federal background dept, so as soon as that goes through, all we have to do is take the tangle course and test. Should be ok, we practice every Monday. We live in a relatively crime free area - other than porch pirates, but , just like Covid, it?s spreading. But moving just isn?t practical. So, to fulfill Carl?s plan, I?ll be watchin? fer ya. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2022 11:04:20 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Stephen, God love ya, but I want no parts of California! The Pelosi crime syndicate runs things there. No, thanks! I have an empty lot just south of Tampa. I'll go there, instead............ -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Thu, Apr 7, 2022 12:50 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? We?ll aside from the silliness, you?ll never get 60% of the people to agree on which 50% they want to live. You to tell John he has to leave Pennsylvania for the west coast - John, house two doors down is for sale. Or tell Dennis he has to leave Georgia? Who?s going to do all of this? Trump? Doesn?t he live in Florida? Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2022 7:02:52 AM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Sat, 2022-04-02 at 00:31 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: And Dennis calls me a pessimist. But based on the proposal in Carl?s post, which you do not refute, conservatives are not one bit different. Carl?s post aside, I am beginning to notice this. There is little difference in desires of what should befall those who disagree with us. We are just as guilty. And God stop it? I think God is counting on it. It?s all cyclic, only this time it?s the whole world. Our greed, our narcissism, our arrogance, our self-righteousness shall indeed be our own self-destruction. There?s life elsewhere, and if there isn?t God will spark it, and then The Creatir will sit back and try to predict how long it will take ?intelligence? to destroy itself again. Where we are today is a result of knowledge, power, greed without wisdom and compassion. Right? We care about others when it suits us, when it?s convenient, when it?s comfortable, or when it benefits us. I believe such was never the intention - of hope. But as Spock said about Kahn: superior intellect breeds superior ambition. W What is wrong with a division of the land as I can see no way for the Democrats to return to America and be for the country. They have turned their backs on Thomas Jefferson and embraced Stalinism so I doubt peaceful coexistance is possible anymore. All other solutions to the communist infestation involve violence. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Sat Apr 9 09:14:14 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2022 15:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] Grandpa Slobber's Job Is To Usurp Your Rights.............................. In-Reply-To: <915546007.144802.1649517239505@mail.yahoo.com> References: <915546007.144802.1649517239505.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <915546007.144802.1649517239505@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <393752597.152749.1649517254772@mail.yahoo.com> This is horrifying: ??? ??? ??? https://tuckercarlson.com/tucker-this-is-an-attempt-to-usurp-the-most-basic-of-all-parental-rights/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Sat Apr 9 11:19:14 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2022 10:19:14 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] Why we need Trump he fixes shit Message-ID: <1649524754.30130.11.camel@linux-7k5b.site> ABOUT DAMN TIME WE HAD A LEADER THAT ASKED WHAT WE'VE ALL WANTED TO SAY! "CAN YA DIG IT" BREAKING: Trump Just Asked 1 Question That Made Congress? 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Did You Know that there is no electric coffee maker made in the US and that the only kitchen appliances made in the US is Viking? This information came from a report by Diane Sawyer. Hopefully, this has changed or will soon!! I DIDN'T KNOW HALLMARK CARDS WERE MADE IN CHINA That's why I don't buy cards at Hallmark anymore, they are Made in China and are more expensive! I buy them at Dollar Tree - 50 cents each and made in USA I have been looking at the blenders available on the Internet. Kitchen Aid is MADE IN THE USA. Top of my list already... Yesterday I was in Wal-Mart looking for a wastebasket. I found some Made In China for $6.99. I didn't want to pay that much so I asked the lady if they had any others. She took me to another department and they had some at $2.50 made in USA. They are just as good.. Same as a kitchen rug I needed. I had to look, but I found some Made in The USA - what a concept! - and they were $3.00 cheaper. We are being brainwashed to believe that everything that comes from China and Mexico is cheaper. Not so. One Light Bulb at A Time. I was in Lowe's the other day and just out of curiosity, I looked at the hose attachments. They were all Made in China. The next day I was in Ace Hardware and just for the heck of it I checked the hose attachments there. They were made in USA Start looking, people . ...In our current economic situation, every little thing we buy or do affects someone else - most often, their job. My grandson likes Hershey's candy. I noticed, though, that it is now marked "Made in Mexico." I don't buy it anymore. My favorite toothpaste Colgate is made in Mexico ..now I have switched to Crest. You must read the labels on everything. This past weekend I was at Kroger. I needed 60W light bulbs and Bounce dryer sheets. I was in the light bulb aisle, and right next to the GE brand I normally buy -- was an off-brand labeled, "Everyday Value." I picked up both types of bulbs and compared them: they were the same except for the price . .. the GE bulbs cost more than the Everyday Value Brand, but the thing that surprised me the most was that that GE was Made in MEXICO and the Everyday Value brand was made in - you guessed it - the USA at a company in Cleveland, Ohio. It's way past time to start finding and buying products you use every day that are made right Here. So, on to the next aisle: Bounce dryer sheets. Yep, you guessed it, Bounce cost more money and is made in Canada. The Everyday Value Brand cost less, and was MADE IN THE USA! I did laundry yesterday and the dryer sheets performed just like the Bounce Free I have been using for years, at almost half the price. My challenge to you is to start reading the labels when you shop for everyday things and see what you can find that is Made In the USA - The job you save may be your own or your neighbor's! If you accept the challenge, pass this on to others in your address book so we can all start buying American, one light bulb at a time! Stop buying from overseas companies - you're sending the jobs there. (We should have awakened a decade ago...) Let's get with the program and help our fellow Americans keep their jobs and create more jobs here in the USA I passed this on.. ..Will you??? If you care about American workers, you will pass it on . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wbbanjo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:04:40 2022 From: wbbanjo at yahoo.com (William White) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 03:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? References: <2110286668.231641.1649559880048.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2110286668.231641.1649559880048@mail.yahoo.com> I understand Stephen's? rootedness even in an increasingly undesirable state, such as CA.? ? Although Western NYS is also becoming tenuous,? my roots have grown over the years there, and they hold me.? However,? I notice many people on the move, changing locations, seeking stability and healthier alignments.? Like a bird on a wire, I feel the urge to fly. Bill?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dap1 at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 08:13:31 2022 From: dap1 at bellsouth.net (Dennis Putnam) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 10:13:31 -0400 Subject: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? In-Reply-To: <2110286668.231641.1649559880048@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2110286668.231641.1649559880048.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2110286668.231641.1649559880048@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi grew up in the Hudson Valley (Hudson) but left after college graduation. I can't say my roots are there any more since I no longer have any relatives there. I think my roots are rotted and I have no desire to ever go back north, including Pittsburgh where I spent 13 years and both my sons grew up there. Also my brother lives in Trafford, PA. I am quite happy to remain in GA. On 4/9/2022 11:04 PM, William White via Rushtalk wrote: > I understand Stephen's rootedness even in an increasingly undesirable > state, such as CA.? ? Although Western NYS is also becoming tenuous,? > my roots have grown over the years there, and they hold me. However,? > I notice many people on the move, changing locations, seeking > stability and healthier alignments.? 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Dennis, we need more conservatives like you up here. Pennsylvania can go red, if that happens. Washington County (where I live) already has and for a while, now. -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Putnam via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Dennis Putnam Sent: Sun, Apr 10, 2022 10:13 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? Hi grew up in the Hudson Valley (Hudson) but left after college graduation. I can't say my roots are there any more since I no longer have any relatives there. I think my roots are rotted and I have no desire to ever go back north, including Pittsburgh where I spent 13 years and both my sons grew up there. Also my brother lives in Trafford, PA. I am quite happy to remain in GA. On 4/9/2022 11:04 PM, William White via Rushtalk wrote: I understand Stephen's? rootedness even in an increasingly undesirable state, such as CA.? ? 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They hate the productive, the Christian and the white male. 'I Feel Like We're on the Run': The Hatred for Democrats in Rural America Has Reached Biblical Levels Matt Vespa Matt Vespa | @mvespa1 Well, this isn?t exactly a new story. The bleeding has been occurring for years, and Democrats have ignored it. It reached critical levels under Obama, where state party apparatuses truly withered away and died. Hillary Clinton pledged to fix that in 2016 but she lost the election. In the age-old debate about the allocation of outreach resources, the Left could have done what they should have which is double-down on rural white working-class voters or go all-in on the urban-based elites. The Democrats decided to do the latter. Four years later, Democrats saw their hopes of a huge House majority die thanks to their failure to reach out to people who aren?t unhinged ?woke? progressives from the cities. Trump lost, but Republicans made big gains in the House? whittling down the Democratic majority to just four seats. Now, the level of hatred for Democrats has reached biblical levels. In rural America, pro-Joe Biden stickers are hidden. Democrats feel like they?re ?on the run.? And some party members feel that total annihilation could be upon them soon if the party doesn?t change their rhetoric about people who aren?t like them (via Associated Press): The party?s brand is so toxic in the small towns 100 miles northeast of Pittsburgh that some liberals have removed bumper stickers and yard signs and refuse to acknowledge publicly their party affiliation. These Democrats are used to being outnumbered by the local Republican majority, but as their numbers continue to dwindle, those who remain are feeling increasingly isolated and unwelcome in their own communities. ?The hatred for Democrats is just unbelievable,? said Tim Holohan, an accountant based in rural McKean County who recently encouraged his daughter to get rid of a pro-Joe Biden bumper sticker. ?I feel like we?re on the run.? The climate across rural Pennsylvania is symptomatic of a larger political problem threatening the Democratic Party heading into the November elections. Beyond losing votes in virtually every election since 2008, Democrats have been effectively ostracized from the overwhelmingly white parts of rural America, leaving party leaders with few options to reverse a cultural trend that is redefining the political landscape. [?] Barack Obama won 875 counties nationwide in his overwhelming 2008 victory. Twelve years later, Biden won only 527. The vast majority of those losses ? 260 of the 348 counties ? took place in rural counties, according to data compiled by The Associated Press. The worst losses were concentrated in largely white areas across the Midwest: 21 rural counties in Michigan flipped from Obama in 2008 to Trump in 2020; Democrats lost 28 rural counties in Minnesota, 32 in Wisconsin and a whopping 45 in Iowa. At the same time, recent Republican voter registration gains in swing states such as Florida and North Carolina were fueled disproportionately by rural voters. Biden overcame rural losses to beat Trump in 2020 because of gains in more populous Democratic counties. Perhaps because of his victory, some Democratic officials worry that party leaders do not appreciate the severity of the threat. Democratic Rep. Jim Cooper of Tennessee, who recently announced he would not seek reelection to Congress this fall, warns that the party is facing extinction in small-town America. Again, will Democrats try and right the ship. They?ve had years to do so, and they haven?t done it. They can?t do it, frankly. The money and the activist pool are all centered around the ?woke? slice of the Democratic base. That also poses another problem for the Left. White progressives are starting to take over the messaging as they fill the coffers at the expense of black and other nonwhite voters who have been loyal party voters for decades. Money talks. Also, nonwhite voters are not as intense when it comes to?almost every issue. On racial resentment issues especially, nonwhite voters are very different from their white progressive allies in the sense that they know and acknowledge progress. Sure, more work needs to be done, but white ?woke? liberals only see Apartheid South Africa in everything. Disagreement is not accepted. It?s considered enabling evil. How do you craft a successful messaging with that mindset? 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()????? o??????????????????? |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_?? |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? |? ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /|?????????? ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \|?? Democrat is SIN and TREASON | _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Mon Apr 11 14:25:06 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2022 20:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] Countering The Green Lie References: <554920941.612659.1649708706478.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <554920941.612659.1649708706478@mail.yahoo.com> Mines, Minerals, and "Green" Energy: A Reality Check Mark P. Mills July 9, 2020 Energy & EnvironmentRegulations Executive Summary As policymakers have shifted focus from pandemic challenges to economic recovery, infrastructure plans are once more being actively discussed, including those relating to energy. Green energy advocates are doubling down on pressure to continue, or even increase, the use of wind, solar power, and electric cars. Left out of the discussion is any serious consideration of the broad environmental and supply-chain implications of renewable energy.As I explored in a previous paper, ?The New Energy Economy: An Exercise in Magical Thinking,?[1] many enthusiasts believe things that are not possible when it comes to the physics of fueling society, not least the magical belief that ?clean-tech? energy can echo the velocity of the progress of digital technologies. It cannot. This paper turns to a different reality: all energy-producing machinery must be fabricated from materials extracted from the earth. No energy system, in short, is actually ?renewable,? since all machines require the continual mining and processing of millions of tons of primary materials and the disposal of hardware that inevitably wears out. Compared with hydrocarbons, green machines entail, on average, a 10-fold increase in the quantities of materials extracted and processed to produce the same amount of energy. This means that any significant expansion of today?s modest level of green energy?currently less than 4% of the country?s total consumption (versus 56% from oil and gas)?will create an unprecedented increase in global mining for needed minerals, radically exacerbate existing environmental and labor challenges in emerging markets (where many mines are located), and dramatically increase U.S. imports and the vulnerability of America?s energy supply chain. As recently as 1990, the U.S. was the world?s number-one producer of minerals. Today, it is in seventh place. Even though the nation has vast mineral reserves worth trillions of dollars, America is now 100% dependent on imports for some 17 key minerals, and, for another 29, over half of domestic needs are imported.Among the material realities of green energy: - Building wind turbines and solar panels to generate electricity, as well as batteries to fuel electric vehicles, requires, on average, more than 10 times the quantity of materials, compared with building machines using hydrocarbons to deliver the same amount of energy to society. - A single electric car contains more cobalt than 1,000 smartphone batteries; the blades on a single wind turbine have more plastic than 5 million smartphones; and a solar array that can power one data center uses more glass than 50 million phones. - Replacing hydrocarbons with green machines under current plans?never mind aspirations for far greater expansion?will vastly increase the mining of various critical minerals around the world. For example, a single electric car battery weighing 1,000 pounds requires extracting and processing some 500,000 pounds of materials. Averaged over a battery?s life, each mile of driving an electric car ?consumes? five pounds of earth. Using an internal combustion engine consumes about 0.2 pounds of liquids per mile. - Oil, natural gas, and coal are needed to produce the concrete, steel, plastics, and purified minerals used to build green machines. The energy equivalent of 100 barrels of oil is used in the processes to fabricate a single battery that can store the equivalent of one barrel of oil. - By 2050, with current plans, the quantity of worn-out solar panels?much of it nonrecyclable?will constitute double the tonnage of all today?s global plastic waste, along with over 3 million tons per year of unrecyclable plastics from worn-out wind turbine blades. By 2030, more than 10 million tons per year of batteries will become garbage. DOWNLOAD PDF It?s a Material World How much does a mile of travel or a movie weigh? Such an odd-sounding question isn?t about distance or time; instead, it points to the inescapable reality that every product and service begins with, and is sustained by, extracting minerals from the earth. For everything built or fabricated, one can trace a straight line back upstream to where people use heavy equipment (in some countries, just shovels) to extract materials from the earth. It is obvious that there is a measurable weight in the materials used to build bridges, skyscrapers, and cars. Less obvious is the weight of materials needed to produce energy. Different forms of energy involve radically different types and quantities of energy-harvesting machines and therefore different kinds and quantities of materials. Whether it?s liquids extracted from the earth to power an internal combustion engine or solids used to build batteries, any significant increase in materials used per mile will add up because Americans alone drive some 3 trillion road-miles a year. The same is true for delivering kilowatt-hours and all other energy uses. The upstream nature of the underlying minerals and materials needed for civilization has always been important. It is critical now that governments around the world are rushing to embrace renewable energy. All machines wear out, and there is nothing actually renewable about green machines, since one must engage in continual extraction of materials to build new ones and replace those that wear out. All this requires mining, processing, transportation, and, ultimately, the disposing of millions of tons of materials, much of it functionally or economically unrecyclable. Assuring access to the minerals that undergird society is a very old concern, one that is woven through history and has even precipitated wars. In the modern era, U.S. policies to address mineral dependencies date to 1922, when Congress, in the aftermath of World War I, developed a list of 42 ?strategic and critical materials? for the technologies and machines important to the military at that time.[2] Next came the Strategic Materials Act of 1939, renewed and modified several times since, incorporating ideas to encourage domestic mining and create stockpiles of strategically critical minerals for military equipment. Over the past century, there have been two significant developments. First, the U.S. has not expanded domestic mining, and, in most cases, the country?s production of nearly all minerals has declined. Second, the demand for minerals has dramatically increased. These two intersecting trends have led to significant transformations in supply-chain dependencies. Imports today account for 100% of some 17 critical minerals, and, for 29 others, net imports account for more than half of demand.[3] The Material Cost of ?Clean Tech?The materials extracted from the earth to fabricate wind turbines, solar panels, and batteries (to store grid electricity or power electric vehicles) are out of sight, located at remote quarries, mine sites, and mineral-processing facilities around the world. Those locations matter in terms of geopolitics and supply-chain risks, as well as in environmental terms. Before considering the supply chain, it is important to understand the scale of the material demands. For green energy, it all begins with the fact that such sources are land-intensive and very diffuse. For example, replacing the energy output from a single 100-MW natural gas-fired turbine, itself about the size of a residential house (producing enough electricity for 75,000 homes), requires at least 20 wind turbines, each one about the size of the Washington Monument, occupying some 10 square miles of land.[4] Building those wind machines consumes enormous quantities of conventional materials, including concrete, steel, and fiberglass, along with less common materials, including ?rare earth? elements such as dysprosium. A World Bank study noted what every mining engineer knows: ?[T]echnologies assumed to populate the clean energy shift ? are in fact significantly more material intensive in their composition than current traditional fossil-fuel-based energy supply systems.?[5]Figure 1All forms of green energy require roughly comparable quantities of materials in order to build machines that capture nature?s flows: sun, wind, and water. Wind farms come close to matching hydro dams in material consumption, and solar farms outstrip both. In all three cases, the largest share of the tonnage is found in conventional materials like concrete, steel, and glass. Compared with a natural gas power plant, all three require at least 10 times as many total tons mined, moved, and converted into machines to deliver the same quantity of energy (Figure 1). For example, building a single 100-MW wind farm? never mind thousands of them?requires some 30,000 tons of iron ore and 50,000 tons of concrete, as well as 900 tons of nonrecyclable plastics for the huge blades.[6] With solar hardware, the tonnage in cement, steel, and glass is 150% greater than for wind, for the same energy output.[7] If episodic sources of energy (wind and solar) are to be used to supply power 24/7, even greater quantities of materials will be required. One needs to build additional machines, roughly two to three times as many, in order to produce and store energy when the sun and wind are available, for use at times when they are not. Then there are the additional materials required to build electricity storage. For context, a utility-scale storage system sufficient for the above-noted 100-MW wind farm would entail using at least 10,000 tons of Tesla-class batteries. The handling and processing of such large quantities of materials entails its own energy costs as well as associated environmental implications, explored below. But first, the critical supply-chain issue is not so much the increase in the use of common (though energy-intensive) materials such as concrete and glass. The core challenges for the supply chain and the environment reside with the need for radical increases in the quantities of a wide variety of minerals. The world currently mines about 7,000 tons per year of neodymium, for example, one of numerous key elements used in fabricating the electrical systems for wind turbines. Current clean-energy scenarios imagined by the World Bank (and many others) will require a 1,000%?4,000% increase in neodymium supply in the coming several decades.[8]?While there are differing underlying assumptions used in various analyses of mineral requirements for green energy, all reach the same range of conclusions. For example, the mining of indium, used in fabricating electricity-generating solar semiconductors, will need to increase as much as 8,000%. The mining of cobalt for batteries will need to grow 300%?800%.[9] Lithium production, used for electric cars (never mind the grid), will need to rise more than 2,000%.[10] The Institute for Sustainable Futures at the University of Technology Sydney, Australia last year analyzed 14 metals essential to building clean tech machines, concluding that the supply of elements such as nickel, dysprosium, and tellurium will need to increase 200%?600%.[11] The implications of such remarkable increases in the demand for energy minerals have not been entirely ignored, at least in Europe. A Dutch government-sponsored study concluded that the Netherlands? green ambitions alone would consume a major share of global minerals. ?Exponential growth in [global] renewable energy production capacity,? the study noted, ?is not possible with present-day technologies and annual metal production.?[12] Behind the Scenes: Ore Grades and ?Overburden?The scale of these material demands understates the total tonnage of the earth that is necessarily moved and processed. That is because forecasts of future mineral demands focus on counting the quantity of refined, pure elements needed?but not the overall amount of earth that must be dug up, moved, and processed. For every ton of a purified element, a far greater tonnage of ore must be physically moved and processed. That is a reality for all elements, expressed by geologists as an ore grade: the percentage of the rock that contains the sought-after element. While ore grades vary widely, copper ores typically contain only about a half-percent, by weight, of the element itself: thus, roughly 200 tons of ore are dug up, moved, crushed, and processed to get to one ton of copper. For rare earths, some 20 to 160 tons of ore are mined per ton of element.[13] For cobalt, roughly 1,500 tons of ore are mined to get to one ton of the element. In the calculus of economic and environmental costs, one must also include the so-called overburden?the tons of rocks and dirt that are first removed to get access to often deeply buried mineral-bearing ore. While overburden ratios also vary widely, it is common to see three to seven tons of earth moved to get access to one ton of ore.[14] For a snapshot of what all this points to regarding the total materials footprint of the green energy path, consider the supply chain for an electric car battery. A single battery providing a useful driving range weighs about 1,000 pounds.[15] Providing the refined minerals needed to fabricate a single EV battery requires the mining, moving, and processing of more than 500,000 pounds of materials somewhere on the planet (see sidebar below).[16] That?s 20 times more than the 25,000 pounds of petroleum that an internal combustion engine uses over the life of a car. The core issue here for a green energy future is not whether there are enough elements in the earth?s crust to meet demand; there are. Most elements are quite abundant, and nearly all are far more common than gold. Obtaining sufficient quantities of nature?s elements, at a price that markets can tolerate, is fundamentally determined by technology and access to the land where they are buried. The latter is mainly about government permissions.However, as the World Bank cautions, the materials implications of a ?clean tech? future creates ?a new suite of challenges for the sustainable development of minerals and resources.?[17] Some minerals are difficult to obtain for technical reasons inherent in the geophysics. It is in the underlying physics of extraction and physical chemistry of refinement that we find the realities of unsustainable green energy at the scales that many propose. | 500,000 Pounds: Total Materials Extracted and Processed per Electric Car Battery | | A lithium EV battery weighs about 1,000 pounds.(a) While there are dozens of variations, such a battery typically contains about 25 pounds of lithium, 30 pounds of cobalt, 60 pounds of nickel, 110 pounds of graphite, 90 pounds of copper,(b) about 400 pounds of steel, aluminum, and various plastic components.(c)? ? Looking upstream at the ore grades, one can estimate the typical quantity of rock that must be extracted from the earth and processed to yield the pure minerals needed to fabricate that single battery: ? ??? Lithium brines typically contain less than 0.1% lithium, so that entails some 25,000 pounds of brines to get the 25 pounds of pure lithium.(d) ? ??? Cobalt ore grades average about 0.1%, thus nearly 30,000 pounds of ore.(e)? ? ??? Nickel ore grades average about 1%, thus about 6,000 pounds of ore.(f) ? ??? Graphite ore is typically 10%, thus about 1,000 pounds per battery.(g) ? ??? Copper at about 0.6% in the ore, thus about 25,000 pounds of ore per battery.(h) ? In total then, acquiring just these five elements to produce the 1,000-pound EV battery requires mining about 90,000 pounds of ore. To properly account for all of the earth moved though?which is relevant to the overall environmental footprint, and mining machinery energy use?one needs to estimate the overburden, or the materials first dug up to get to the ore. Depending on ore type and location, overburden ranges from about 3 to 20 tons of earth removed to access each ton of ore.(i)? ? This means that accessing about 90,000 pounds of ore requires digging and moving between 200,000 and over 1,500,000 pounds of earth?a rough average of more than 500,000 pounds per battery. The precise number will vary for different battery chemistry formulations, and because different regions have widely variable ore grades. It bears noting that this total material footprint does not include the large quantities of materials and chemicals used to process and refine all the various ores. Nor have we counted other materials used when compared with a conventional car, such as replacing steel with aluminum to offset the weight penalty of the battery, or the supply chain for rare earth elements used in electric motors (e.g., neodymium, dysprosium).(j) Also excluded from this tally: the related, but non-battery, electrical systems in an EV use some 300% more overall copper used compared with a conventional automobile.(k) ? (a) Helena Berg and Mats Zackrisson, ?Perspectives on Environmental and Cost Assessment of Lithium Metal Negative Electrodes in Electric Vehicle Traction Batteries,? Journal of Power Sources 415 (March 2019): 83?90. (b) Marcelo Azevedo et al., ?Lithium and Cobalt: A Tale of Two Commodities,? McKinsey & Company, June 22, 2018; Matt Badiali, ?Tesla Can?t Make Electric Cars Without Copper,? Banyan Hill, Nov. 3, 2017; Amit Katwala, ?The Spiraling Environmental Cost of Our Lithium Battery Addiction,? Wired, Aug. 5, 2018. (c)?Paul Gait, ?Raw Material Bottlenecks and Commodity Winners,? in Electric Revolution: Investing in the Car of the Future, Bernstein Global Research, March 2017; Fred Lambert, ?Breakdown of Raw Materials in Tesla?s Batteries and Possible Bottlenecks,? electrek.co, Nov. 1, 2016; Matt Bohlsen, ?A Look at the Impact of Electric Vehicles on the Nickel Sector,? Seeking Alpha, Mar. 7, 2017. (d) Hanna Vikstr?m et al., ?Lithium Availability and Future Production Outlooks,? Applied Energy 110 (2013): 252?66. (e) John F. Slack et al., ?Cobalt,? in Critical Mineral Resources of the United States?Economic and Environmental Geology and Prospects for Future Supply, USGS Professional Paper 1802, Dec. 19, 2017. (f) Vladmir I. Berger et al., ?Ni-Co Laterite Deposits of the World?Database and Grade and Tonnage Models,? USGS Open-File Report 2011-1058 (2011). (g) Gilpin R. Robinson Jr. et al., ?Graphite,? in Critical Mineral Resources of the United States. (h) Guiomar Calvo et al., ?Decreasing Ore Grades in Global Metallic Mining: A Theoretical Issue or a Global Reality?? Resources 5, no. 4 (December 2016): 1?14; Vladimir Basov, ?The World?s Top 10 Highest-Grade Copper Mines,? mining.com, Feb. 19, 2017; EPA, ?TENORM: Copper Mining and Production Wastes?: ?Several hundred metric tons of ore must be handled for each metric ton of copper metal produced.? (i) DOE, Industrial Technologies Program, Mining Industry Bandwidth Study, prepared by BCS, Inc., June 2007; Glencore McArthur River Mine, ?Overburden.? The seven tons of overburden per ton of ore mined is highly variable. (j) Jeff Desjardins, ?Extraordinary Raw Materials in a Tesla Model S,? visualcapitalist.com, Mar. 7, 2016; Laura Talens Peir? and Gara Villalba M?ndez, ?Material and Energy Requirement for Rare Earth Production,? JOM 65, no. 10 (October 2013): 1327?40. (k) Copper Development Association, ?Copper Drives Electric Vehicles,? 2018. | Sustainability: Hidden Costs of Materials Concerns about the environmental and health effects of mining were first expressed by the ancient Greek physician Hippocrates, in his book De a?re, aquis et locis (On Air, Waters, and Places).[18] Since civilization could not exist without extracting minerals from the earth, society has long had to contend with the challenges associated with the responsible extraction of resources. Today, the most dramatic factor driving the scale of future global mining is not the creation of products that require new uses of minerals (e.g., silicon for computers, aluminum for aircraft) but the push to use green machines to replace hydrocarbons to meet existing energy demands. Green machines mean mining more materials per unit of energy delivered to society. Since clean tech is about supplying energy in a more ?sustainable? fashion, one needs to consider not just the physical mining realities but also the hidden energy costs of the underlying materials themselves, i.e., the ?embodied? energy costs. Embodied energy arises from the fuel used to dig up and move earth, grind and chemically separate minerals from the ores, refine the elements to purity, and fabricate the final product. Embodied energy costs can add up to surprising levels. For example, while an automobile weighs about 10,000 times more than a smartphone, the car requires only 400 times more energy to fabricate. And the world produces nearly 600,000 tons of consumer electronics annually.[19] Epitomizing this reality: the embodied energy to produce about 200 pounds of steel is the same as used to produce one pound of semiconductor-grade silicon.[20] The world also uses some 25,000 tons of (energy-intensive) pure semiconductor-grade silicon, a nonexistent material in the precomputer era.[21] Embodied energy use starts with the fuel used by giant mining machines, such as the 0.3 mpg Caterpillar 797F, which can carry 400 tons of ore. There are also energy costs for electricity at the mine site (in remote areas, often diesel-powered) to run machines that crush rocks, as well as the energy costs in producing and using chemicals for refining. For minerals with very low ore grades, fuel can be a significant factor in the cost of the final product.Rare earth elements, used in all manner of tech machines, including green ones, have rare properties but are much more abundant than gold. However, the physical chemistry of rare earths makes them difficult and energy-intensive to refine. It takes about twice as much energy to get access to and refine a pound of rare earth as a pound of lead, for example.[22] For the mining industry, there is nothing new or surprising about the quantities of energy and chemicals used in the multistep processes needed to purify minerals locked up in rocks. While there are always ways (including, these days, with digital tools) to improve economic efficiency?and improve safety and environmental outcomes?research shows that, with regard to energy efficiency, the majority of the underlying mineral processes themselves already operate near technical or physics limits.[23] This means that, for the usefully foreseeable future, increasing the production of green machines will unavoidably increase embodied energy. For example, analyses show that manufacturing a single battery, one capable of holding energy that is equivalent to one barrel of oil, entails processes that use the energy equivalent of 100 barrels of oil.[24] About half that energy is in the form of electricity and natural gas, and the other half oil. If the batteries are manufactured in Asia (as 60% of the world?s batteries are now), more than 60% of the electricity to do so is coal-fired.[25] Embodied energy is also necessarily a part of building wind and solar machines, especially since large quantities of concrete, steel, and glass are required.[26] These commodity materials have relatively low embodied energy per pound, but the number of pounds involved is enormous.[27] Natural gas accounts for over 70% of the energy used to fabricate glass, for example.[28] Glass accounts for some 20% of the tonnage needed to build solar arrays. For wind turbines, oil and natural gas are used to fabricate fiberglass blades, and coal is used to make steel and concrete. Some perspective: if wind turbines were to supply half the world?s electricity, nearly 2 billion tons of coal would have to be consumed to produce the concrete and steel, along with 1.5 billion barrels of oil to make the composite blades.[29] One additional energy factor absent from analyses of the embodied energy of clean-tech machines is in how the materials are delivered. More than 75% of all oil and 100% of natural gas are transported to markets via pipelines.[30] (Most of the remaining ton-miles take place on ships.) Pipelines are the world?s most energy-efficient means of moving a ton of material. However, nearly all the materials used to construct green machines are solids, and a very large share will be transported by truck. Using trucks instead of pipelines entails a 1,000% increase per ton-mile in the embodied transportation of energy materials.[31] Finally, in any full accounting of environmental realities, there is the disposal challenge inherent in the very large quantities of batteries, wind turbines, and solar cells after they wear out, a subject discussed below. For now, it bears noting that many wind turbines are already reaching their 20-year end of life; decommissioning and disposal realities are just beginning. The massive, reinforced fiberglass (plastic) blades are very expensive to cut up and handle, are composed of nonrecyclable materials, and will end up in a landfill. As for solar farms, the International Renewable Energy Agency forecasts that by 2050, with current plans, solar garbage will constitute double the tonnage of all global plastic waste.[32] For many green energy proponents, the solution to all these challenges with materials is found in a wellworn call for greater attention to ?reduce, reuse, and recycle.? Many people also take refuge in the belief that our future has room in it for more energy materials because technology is ?dematerializing? the rest of society. In reality, neither dematerialization nor recycling offers a solution to the heavy costs of a green energy future. The ?Dematerialization? Trope There is a popular claim in our digital times that the increasingly service-dominated economy, combined with the Amazonification and Uberization of everything, means that ?the need for resource-intensive manufacturing is not inevitable.?[33] Or, as MIT scientist Andrew McAfee put it: ?For just about all of human history our prosperity has been tightly coupled to our ability to take resources from the earth. . . . But not anymore.?[34]It is true that resource extraction?food, fuel, and minerals?accounts for only a minor share of America?s overall GDP; that has been true for more than a century. However, the foundational requirement for any of those inputs has not decreased in absolute quantity, nor has there been a diminution of the importance of the reliability and security of the supply, and price, of those inputs. For evidence that society is not dematerializing in any fundamental way, we need only compare two iconic products of this and the past century: the smartphone and the automobile. These two products characterize a cultural shift and an apparent shift in material dependencies. As one analyst put it, teenagers have gone from driving cars to the mall to purchase music cassettes to streaming music digitally.[35] But the digital world has not eliminated the use of automobiles or the surprising quantities of minerals and materials used in the upstream production of all things digital. Forecasts for the next two decades see a 300% rise in global demand for common materials such as plastics, paper, iron, aluminum, silica (sand), and calcium (in limestone) for concrete.[36]?Figure 2Wealthy economies have become more efficient, and the rate of economic growth has outpaced a slower rise in overall material use. But greater economic efficiency in material use slows the growth rate?it is not a fundamental decoupling of materials from growth.?The world consumes over 100 billion tons each year in materials for construction, food, fuel, and metal parts (Figure 2).[37] That averages out to over 2 million pounds for each person?s lifetime on the planet. More than 85% of that, so far, is for nonenergy purposes. Still, it is true that eventually?even if it is a century from now?there will be a slowing in demand for everyday materials as poorer nations approach a saturation level of per-capita use of food, homes, roads, and buildings.[38] We are a long way away from such saturation: wealthy nations have about 800 cars per 1,000 people, while in countries where billions of poorer people live, the ratio is closer to 800 people per single car.[39] To the extent that a rising share of those cars are electric, the demand for a wide variety of minerals will grow even faster.[40] Moreover, the continual discovery of novel properties in elements drives entirely new demands for mining. A century ago, cars were manufactured using a handful of materials: wood, rubber, glass, iron, copper, vanadium, and zinc. Cars today are built from more than three dozen nonfuel minerals, including a m?lange of 16 rare earth elements. One example: in 1982, a General Motors scientist employed the rare properties of neodymium to invent the world?s strongest magnet.[41] Such magnets, 10 times more powerful than anything previous, are now integral to all manner of products, including green products such as wind turbines and electric cars. The service sector had become the primary source of employment by the end of the 20th century.[42] Most analyses and anxieties have focused on the implications of this transformation for the workforce.[43] Yet all services are also based on the use of manufactured products.[44] There is no FedEx without trucks and aircraft; there is no health care without hospitals, magnetic imaging machines, and pharmaceuticals; there is no Amazon without data centers and warehouses. The convenience of ?one-click? shopping and one- or two-day deliveries over the past half-dozen years has led to a doubling in U.S. warehouse construction and 50% rise in freight traffic.[45] Building the Cloud begins with the periodic table, from silicon and arsenic to lithium and ytterbium. Powering the Cloud requires the use of sand and steel to obtain natural gas locked up in shale, as well as silver and selenium to get solar energy.Figure 3Consider an important material-service linkage visible in energy trends. Since the start of the digital age, circa 1980, the average material intensity of America ? measured in total pounds used per capita, not total pounds overall?has remained largely unchanged.[46] But the realities of how energy is used by machines, and to fabricate those machines, can be seen in the trend in energy use per industrial worker, which has increased right along with the rising share of total employment that is nonindustrial.[47] In fact, in the digitally infused period since 1980, the share of employment in services remained flat while the energy intensity of the average industrial-sector employee increased (Figure 3).?In short, migration to a more service-dominated economy does not reduce dependence on energy, and derivatively materials, or the need for reliable access to both. Reduce, Reuse, Recycle: No Exit from Mineral Dependencies The mantra to ?reduce, reuse, and recycle? ingrained in modern culture has become a feature in virtually all analyses and policy proposals directed at finding a way to reduce the materials demands of green energy. Reuse is generally irrelevant, since the vast majority of all products in society cannot be reused, and this includes green energy machines. The technical and environmental challenges, and thus the costs to reuse, more often than not are greater than those associated with using virgin material. Reduce Modern ?reduce and recycle? policies and mandates were motivated in large measure by the goal to reduce the amount of trash going to landfills. So what will become of the rapidly increasing number of wind/ solar/battery machines that are being produced? Answer: nearly all of them will eventually show up in waste dumps. As we noted earlier, the International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA) forecasts that by 2050, with current plans, solar garbage will constitute double the tonnage of all forms of global plastic waste. Similar scales are expected from end-of-life batteries used in electric cars and on power grids. China?s annual battery trash alone is already estimated to reach 500,000 tons in 2020. It will exceed 2 million tons per year by 2030.[48] Currently, less than 5% of such batteries are recycled.[49] When the 20 wind turbines that constitute just one small 100-MW wind farm wear out, decommissioning and trashing them will lead to fourfold more nonrecyclable plastic trash than all the world?s (recyclable) plastic straws combined.[50] There are 1,000 times more wind turbines than that in the world today. If current International Energy Agency (IEA) forecasts are met, there will be over 3 million tons per year of unrecyclable plastic turbine blades by 2050 (Figure 4).Figure 4Recognizing the material intensity of clean energy technologies, some environmentalists suggest that what we need for a ?real sustainable future is one that doesn?t involve most people driving vehicles.?[51] Proposals for encouraging or enforcing lifestyle changes are not new. They are no more likely to be effective in the future than they have been in the past. Innovative engineering can lead to modest reductions in the use of some critical elements in electric motors and magnets. But that only slightly slows the rate of growth in demand. It doesn?t eliminate the fact that building green machines is made possible by using the properties of many specific elements. For example: samarium enables smaller and more powerful magnets that are also far more stable at high temperatures. Lithium is, tautologically, the essential element in a lithium-ion battery; and copper remains the best option for electric conductors. Recycle For green energy advocates, the idealized vision for recycling encompasses deploying a ?circular economy? as a number-one priority for dealing with the material implications of clean tech.[52] But the idea of a green energy circular economy based on the goal of 100% recycling is a pipe dream.[53]Many materials, especially high-value metals, can be significantly recycled. But we can consider the implications and lessons for green waste by looking at the 50 million tons of so-called e-waste generated globally from worn-out or outmoded digital devices that are also built using many critical and rare minerals. The tonnage of global e-waste equals ?the weight of all commercial aircraft ever built? and is forecast to double in the next several decades.[54] The millions of tons of e-waste contain hundreds of tons of gold and thousands of tons of silver (generally the primary target of recyclers, for obvious reasons) as well as more than a dozen other elements.[55] In order to increase e-waste recycling from today?s 20% level, the World Economic Forum (among others) proposes various measures to increase consumer ?awareness,? add new regulations and subsidies, and push to redesign the original devices. The Forum estimates that these efforts would reduce consumer costs by 14% over the next two decades.[56] But as the scale of global recycling grows, many governments and some environmental organizations are beginning to focus on the serious health and safety issues that have been ignored.[57] So far, the majority of e-waste recycling?as is much other waste?takes place in poorer nations willing to undertake the labor-intensive, largely unregulated, and sometimes hazardous processes involved. Ghana, for example, is where Europe exports the largest quantity of its e-waste.[58] Meantime, the global recycling industry is still adjusting to a new reality: two years ago, China abruptly banned the importation of waste, asserting that much of it was ?dirty? and ?hazardous.?[59] China?s ban is forcing local U.S. governments and municipalities to reduce or even halt recycling programs.[60] As one industry expert in Oregon observed: ?Recycling is like a religion here. . . . It has been meaningful for people in Oregon to recycle, [and] they feel like they are doing something good for the planet? and now they are having the rug pulled out from under them.?[61] The China ban has spotlighted the inherent challenges with recycling, especially the notion of a ?circular economy.? The challenge with recycling trace minerals is essentially the same as in mining itself: much depends on concentrations. The concentration of useful minerals in e-waste and green waste is very low and often far lower than the ore grades of those minerals in rocks. In addition, the physical nature of trashed hardware is highly varied (again, unlike rocks), making it a challenge to find simple mechanisms to separate out the minerals. Recycling processes are often labor-intensive (hence the pursuit of cheap labor, sometimes child labor, overseas) and hazardous because techniques to burn away unwanted packaging can release toxic fumes.[62] If ?urban mining??the oft-used locution for capturing minerals hidden in worn-out products?were easier, cheaper, and safer than mining new materials, there would be a lot more of it, and it would not require subsidies and mandates to put into effect. While technology, especially automation and robotics, will eventually bring more economically viable and cleaner ways to recycle, the challenges are daunting and progress has been slow. That?s the reason that the overall global levels of net recycling and capture of most metals (for all purposes, not just e-waste and green waste) are below 20%, and much lower than those for all the rare earths.[63] Even as Apple has championed recycling programs for its products?including inventing a robot to disassemble iPhones (it can only do iPhones)64 and opening a new Material Recovery Lab in Austin, Texas?the company, along with many other tech companies, vigorously promotes green energy.65 But there is as much cobalt in a single EV battery, for example, as there is in 1,000 iPhones, as much plastic in a single wind turbine as in 5 million iPhones, and as much glass in a solar array that could power a single data center as in 50 million iPhones.[66] A recent Department of Energy vision for offshore wind (never mind onshore wind farms) in the U.S. would lead to nearly 10 thousand tons of neodymium alone ?buried? inside more than 4 million tons of machinery that will eventually head for waste dumps.[67] That sounds like a lot of material worth recovering, but it pencils out to a neodymium concentration in the trash that is one-tenth of the natural ore grade for that mineral at a mine site.[68] Such realities can lead to the surprising outcome that the energy required to recover a recycled mineral can be greater than expended to get it from nature?s ore.[69] That doesn?t mean that recycling won?t continue to have a role, even a greater one. But its limits are clear. The challenges in meeting the requirements for global minerals in the future will not be met with wishful thinking about ?circular economies.? Sources of Minerals: Conflicts and Dependencies The critical, and even vital, roles of specific minerals have long been a concern of some analysts, and the stuff of fictional dramas as well. One plot in Amazon?s Jack Ryan series pivots around a secret Venezuelan tantalum mine; in one episode of the Netflix series House of Cards, a crisis emerges from a Chinese samarium embargo.[70] The dramas are, of course, animated by real-life dependencies and conflicts over resources, local labor abuses, and gratuitous damage to the local environment. Today, one can trace a straight line from a medical MRI to giant trucks in the mines of Brazil (for niobium in superconducting magnets),[71] or from an electric car to Inner Mongolia?s massive Bayan Obo mines (for rare earths), and from a smartphone to mines in the Democratic Republic of Congo (for cobalt in batteries). Each of those regions represents the world?s largest supply of niobium, rare earths, and cobalt, respectively.[72] Politically troubled Chile has the world?s greatest lithium resources, although stable Australia is the world?s biggest supplier. Elsewhere in the battery supply chain, Chinese cobalt refiners have quietly gained control over more than 90% of the battery industry?s cobalt refining, without which the raw cobalt ore is useless.[73] The Institute for Sustainable Futures at the University of Technology Sydney, Australia, cautions that a global gold rush for green minerals to meet ambitious plans could take miners into ?some remote wilderness areas [that] have maintained high biodiversity because they haven?t yet been disturbed.?[74] And then there are the widely reportedly cases of abuse and child labor in mines in the Congo, where 70% of the world?s raw cobalt originates.[75] Late in 2019, Apple, Google, Tesla, Dell, and Microsoft found themselves accused in a lawsuit filed in a U.S. federal court of exploiting child labor in the Congo.[76] Similar connections can be made to labor abuses associated with copper, nickel, or niobium mines around the world.[77] While there is nothing new about such real or alleged abuses, what is new is the rapid growth and enormous prospective demand for tech?s minerals and green energy minerals. The Dodd-Frank Act of 2010 includes reporting requirements on trade in ?conflict minerals.? A recent Government Accountability Office (GAO) report notes that more than a thousand companies filed conflict minerals disclosures with the Securities and Exchange Commission, per Dodd-Frank.[78] Automakers building electric cars have joined smartphone makers in such pledges for ?ethical sourcing? of minerals.[79] Car batteries use far more of ?conflict? cobalt.[80] Companies can make pledges; but unfortunately, the facts suggest that there is little correlation between such pledges and the frequency of (claimed) abuses in foreign mines.[81] In addition to moral questions about exporting the environmental and labor challenges of mineral extraction, the strategic challenges of supply chains are a top security concern as well. Strategic Dependencies: Old Security Worries ReanimatedSupply-chain worries about critical minerals during World War I prompted Congress to establish, in 1922, the Army and Navy Munitions Board to plan for supply procurement, listing 42 strategic and critical materials. This was followed by the Strategic Materials Act of 1939. By World War II, some 15 critical materials had been stockpiled, six of which were released and used during that war. The 1939 act has been revised twice, in 1965 and 1979, and amended in 1993 to specify that the purpose of that act was for national defense only.[82] As recently as 1990, the U.S. was the world?s number-one producer of minerals. It is in seventh place today.[83] More relevant, as the United States Geological Survey (USGS) notes, are strategic dependencies on specific critical minerals. In 1954, the U.S. was 100% dependent on imports for eight minerals.[84] Today, the U.S. is 100% reliant on imports for 17 minerals and depends on imports for over 50% of 29 widely used minerals. China is a significant source for half of those 29 minerals.[85] The Department of Defense and the Department of Energy (DOE) have issued reports on critical mineral dependencies many times over the decades. In 2010, DOE issued the Critical Materials Strategy; in 2013, DOE formed the Critical Materials Institute, the same year the National Science Foundation launched a critical-materials initiative.[86] In 2018, USGS identified a list of 35 minerals as critical to security of the nation.[87] But decades of hand-wringing over rising mineral dependencies have yielded no significant changes in domestic policies. The truth is that depending on imports for small quantities of minerals used in vital military technologies can be reasonably addressed by building domestic stockpiles, a solution as ancient as mining itself. However, today?s massive domestic and global push for clean-tech energy cannot be addressed with small stockpiles. The options?other than eschewing more green energy?are to simply accept more strategic dependency, or to increase domestic mining.[88] Green Energy?s Radical Acceleration of Strategic DependenciesThe U.S. has in the past half-decade achieved strategic energy independence. This comes after decades of political, economic, and geopolitical anxieties over import dependencies for natural gas and oil, in particular. The nation now produces more gas than it consumes and is thus a net exporter; it also produces 90% of net petroleum needs and is thus essentially strategically independent. As with agricultural products, where the U.S. is also a net exporter, achieving net independence does not obviate a need for or value in imports as part of the overall complex structure of commodity exchanges. But strategic ?insulation,? as well as geopolitical ?soft power,? comes from a posture of ?dominance? in commodities critical to national survival.[89] While it remains to be seen how much damage is inflicted on domestic energy production in the post-coronavirus recession, it is now clear that the nation has significant capabilities in strategic hydrocarbon production and exports. Given that 56% of all America?s energy comes from oil and gas, this achievement has deep strategic implications. On the other hand, as of today, just 4% of overall domestic energy needs are supplied by wind and solar machines, and batteries propel less than 0.5% of domestic road-miles. About 90% of solar panels are imported.[90]?Even if the panels were assembled here, the U.S. fabricates only 10% of the global supply of the critical underlying silicon material. China produces half.[91] For wind turbines, the U.S. imports some 80% of the electrical components (i.e., excluding fiberglass and steel).[92] And while Tesla (accounting for nearly 80% of all domestic EV sales)[93] manufactures domestically, essentially all the critical minerals originate overseas. Thus, any significant expansion in green machines? tiny share of domestic energy will radically increase imports of either those machines, or the green energy minerals, or both. The quantities of imports will be unprecedented. The strategic implications of green energy materials have not escaped attention in Europe. An analysis from The Hague Centre for Strategic Studies summarized the ?security dimension? of the world?s rush to promote renewable energy. The analysis points to three obvious macro trends: - Mineral-producing countries will gain power. - Regions with ?large unexploited mineral reserves? will gain strategic importance. - The ?gravity of international relations will shift towards countries that possess renewable energy technologies and technical know-how on minerals for renewable energy.? The Hague drily notes that ?import dependent countries may use military capabilities to secure mineral resources.?[94]As a consequence, it appears that Europe might embrace policies to encourage more domestic mining, an idea that would have seemed as unlikely a few years ago as the possibility of the EU encouraging more drilling for oil and natural gas. But that is precisely what is being proposed in a ?retooling? of the EU?s industrial policy.[95] Citing strategic and economic factors, some EU policymakers propose more local mining and refining to meet the mineral needs of green energy. Potential mining projects have been identified in 10 EU countries, including rare earths in Norway, cobalt in Finland, and lithium in Spain and Portugal. It is no small irony that, as the European Investment Bank puts in place policies to stop lending to fossil fuel industries,[96] it is implementing policies to lend to mining projects.[97] It remains to be seen how Europe?s newfound mining ambitions will be greeted by environmentalists and the continent?s various green parties, given the hostility of both to extraction industries in general. Just prior to the global coronavirus pandemic, protests started to erupt over plans for new European mines,[98] in response to which industries were spooling up a PR campaign to try to manage ?the unfavourable status of mineral extraction.?[99] In any event, environmentalists on both sides of the Atlantic continue to push harder for expanding green energy.[100] How this all plays out in the post-coronavirus world also remains to be seen. But regardless of whether green energy policies are accelerated or slow down, the significant mineral dependencies that already exist will not change unless the U.S. learns to love, or at least make peace with, more mining. Policies for Supply-Chain Security for Energy Materials: Dig More Several decades of studies, congressional hearings, and policy analyses have all pointed to the same two facts.[101] One, the territories of the United States contain vast mineral reserves worth trillions of dollars, including every mineral relevant to green energy machines, not to mention those critical for computers and the military.[102] Two, America?s share of domestic and global mineral supply continues to shrink. Similarly, decades of proposals reaching back to the Strategic Materials Act of 1939 have all offered a list of action items that are, each time, essentially identical. And all have included the one central and obvious conclusion: the primary means for decreasing import dependencies is to increase domestic mining.[103] As the National Academies of Sciences pointed out in a 1999 report on mining: ?lack of early, consistent cooperation and participation by all the federal, state and local agencies involved in the NEPA process results in excessive costs, delays and inefficiencies.?[104]The U.S. has one of longest permitting processes in the world; investors must navigate a labyrinth of dozens of federal, state, and local rules.[105] It can take one to three decades to get one new mine into production.106 This compares with a permitting process that typically takes about two years in Canada and Australia.[107] (Permitting in those nations has recently become more arduous.)[108] The U.S., along with Europe, has regulated its way into far greater import dependencies.[109] Less than 10% of global spending on mineral exploration happens on U.S. soil.[110] At the same time, policymakers and U.S. presidents over the years have radically decreased access to federal lands for mineral exploration, never mind development. In the western states where the federal government controls nearly 90% of the total land area,[111] nearly half that territory is off-limits to mining.[112] In addition, Congress in 1996 closed down America?s epicenter of mining expertise, the Bureau of Mines, laying off most of the staff and distributing those who remained to various other agencies.[113] Last year, the Trump administration proposed to increase domestic mining.[114] A 2019 Department of Commerce report lists more than 60 recommendations; essentially all of them echo, and are nearly identical to, those made in previous similar reports from both Democratic and Republican administrations.[115] We have decades of nearly identical calls to action.[116] All of it distills to one essential directive: restructure the regulatory environment so that investors can open and operate domestic mines. There is one thing different today: the digital revolution now enables significant, and even radically new, possibilities for more cost-effective and environmentally gentle mineral extraction and production. Significant advances are still possible in basic materials sciences and chemistry[117]?including techniques for reducing the use of hazardous chemicals needed for mineral refining and in recycling.[118] But, as with the industrial sector in general, it is in software domains where some of the greatest productivity and safety gains will be found.[119] Software and digital technology have finally improved sufficiently to begin offering the kinds of gains in ?hard? industries, such as mining and manufacturing, as they have in ?soft? industries such as news and entertainment.[120] Mines, for example, have only begun to use automated drills and trucks.[121] Some intrepid entrepreneurs continue to advance mining development in the U.S., from the huge potential for copper, gold, and molybdenum in Alaska[122] to a rare earth deposit in Round Top, Texas,[123] and (also in Texas) the first non-China facility for refining rare earth ores.[124] The last, a joint venture between Australian, Japanese, and U.S. firms, had a planned start date in 2021.[125] But in a sign of the times?and an illustration of the failure for green advocates to connect the dots to reality?when it was introduced last year, the administration?s proposal to expand domestic mining was met with partisan criticism as ?shameful? and harmful to the environment.[126] But in calling for things like stockpiling (specifically for national defense), greater access to federal lands, financial support, and expedited permitting, today?s administration is following the same proposals made serially by previous administrations, in both political parties, over many decades. Indeed, the administration?s call to action closely resembles legislation passed into law 40 years ago, on a bipartisan basis, and signed by President Carter. That law, the National Materials and Minerals Policy, Research and Development Act of 1980, specifically called for the coequal pursuit of mineral production and environmental protection.[127] In order to provide the motivation and the expertise needed to reanimate domestic mining?an action that would provide benefits to all industries dependent on minerals?Congress should update the 1980 mining law. And new legislation should specifically include plans to: - Resurrect the Bureau of Mines in order to provide an epicenter of expertise, now absent, needed to provide comprehensive, independent domain knowledge on mining technologies. - Directly link all subsidies and mandates for green energy to policies that support the expansion of domestic mining and minerals refining. Even without subsidies, mandates, and policies that favor green energy, the future for both America and the rest of the world will see many more wind and solar farms and many more electric cars. That will happen precisely because those technologies have matured enough to play significant roles. And given the magnitude of pent-up global demand for energy and energy-using machines and services?especially after the world struggles out of recession?it is a truth, not a slogan, that the world will need ?all of the above? in energy supplies. These realities, combined with the immutable reality that green machines require extraordinary quantities of energy minerals, can perhaps form a common intersection of interests that support an expansion in domestic mining. That would be, after all, of strategic and economic benefit to the United States, regardless of the debates over whether green energy is a replacement for hydrocarbons, which it is not, or a significant new and valuable energy sector, which it most assuredly is. Endnotes See endnotes in PDF Photo by?RiverRockPhotos/iStock -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Mon Apr 11 15:41:36 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2022 14:41:36 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] More On 2020 Cheating In-Reply-To: <1474353700.1887657.1649272491224@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1580831662.1525006.1649179360072.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1580831662.1525006.1649179360072@mail.yahoo.com> <2064058281.1528780.1649179802982@mail.yahoo.com> <1649256766.9220.23.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1474353700.1887657.1649272491224@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1649713296.30650.5.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 19:14 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: > Bill Cinton's mother was the illegitimate > offspring of Winthrop Rockefeller and his > mistress.................according to the Clinton Chronicles. Interesting how these globalist scum get around on each other. They behave like royalty. If you ever saw the series Pillars of the Earth. The corrupt priest would be an archetype for Rockefeller -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I thought Plan B was the World unHealthy Organization creating a world Fauci identification card (see 666). -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Tue Apr 12 15:26:19 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2022 14:26:19 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] Countering The Green Lie In-Reply-To: <554920941.612659.1649708706478@mail.yahoo.com> References: <554920941.612659.1649708706478.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <554920941.612659.1649708706478@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1649798779.26150.16.camel@linux-7k5b.site> As bad as all that and not enough to go around unless your one of the elite who will be allowed personal vehicles. The schmucks will be trapped in public transportation or human powered vehicles if they are lucky. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Tue Apr 12 15:30:24 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2022 14:30:24 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] More On EVs In-Reply-To: <1854552490.352981.1647653592659@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1854552490.352981.1647653592659.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1854552490.352981.1647653592659@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1649799024.26150.20.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Perhaps this is how they fulfill Rockefeller's 1970's promise to Red China ruling over the West. When we can not pay we will have to give them Taiwan and maybe Alaska. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Tue Apr 12 15:38:32 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2022 14:38:32 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Russia would not have invaded . . . In-Reply-To: <1059708158.956319.1649014332170@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1059708158.956319.1649014332170.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1059708158.956319.1649014332170@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1649799512.26150.27.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Sun, 2022-04-03 at 19:32 +0000, William White via Rushtalk wrote: > The thing about disagreements is that usually one side is better > aligned with truth (what is so) that the other. That tension can > usually be reduced when the mistaken party apologizes to the person > who had the greater claim to the facts and the logical conclusions > based on those facts. Apology to one's fellow man tends to improve > relationships and it is good practice for repentance in religion, > without which spiritual progress is impossible. I believe we are past this with the left. They are full throttle left with no regard for truth. America is divided and ready to split land mass. The left needs this war to distract us from their failure and the disaster they cheated into office. As to the Russia v Ukraine thing its not our business and long time past for NATO to remain useful. Yes I do think Trump could have prevented this because he is strong whereas the tired old Fraud is a weakling. the whole world is waiting for us to fall apart likely because they know that if the cheats succeed America is toast until the great domestic blood letting is over. It was never The True President Trump who gave America a bad name save in the eyes of liberals the world over. It is the Fraud who is creating an America which can not be relied upon. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The > most appropriate next step was to correct his erroneous thinking and > apologize to Socrates. This behavioral model is the optimistic > outcome of every liberal who purports to investigate and to think. > This process is now called taking the red pill. J,P, Sears is onto > something. > > _______________________________________________ If liberals could think they would not be liberals. -- Carl Spitzer -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The Truth having been abandoned by the main stream media over two generations ago. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Tue Apr 12 15:52:48 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2022 14:52:48 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] The truth about electric cars In-Reply-To: References: <1648579041.2242.5.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <797785871.1185066.1648579559092@mail.yahoo.com> <1649339266.30529.25.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: <1649800368.26150.39.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 17:01 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: > Computers are not inside the gas tank. Gas fumes and electricity are > a bad combination. Besides, all-electric cars don?t have gas tanks. > Hybrids do, but the computer is still not in the gas tank. That?s > akin to a screen door on a submarine. Well that is what a mechanic said when I had the previous car in for work. I saw him take a mallet under a car and start using it and asked why. Remember the Ford Pinto. Serious stupid there and yet it was done. Not all stupidity is repeated by automakers. Once upon a time they did not have seat belts. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Tue Apr 12 15:57:42 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2022 14:57:42 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1464103642.1469986.1648662348990@mail.yahoo.com> <1150270813.53923.1648670548434@mail.yahoo.com> <245546027.48647.1648671276434@mail.yahoo.com> <1648910209.14228.28.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1649339954.30529.35.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: <1649800662.26150.44.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 16:55 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: > That?s not what you wrote, Carl. You wrote that if I am against > Trump, then I am against Christ. That?s a true non sequitur. Your > conclusion in no way derived from your premise. > It is right to hate evil. The left is evil we can see that in this Fauci Ouchie and id card nonsense. As to the enemies of GOD being likewise the enemies of Trump that is correct. Your point seems to be that I disallow for foolish Christians to be against Trump. Well I do have Chicago Catholic Democrat family but there are indications of them repenting of this sin they did not recognize as such. Afterall all their schooling, local culture and even their priests have reenforced Democrat lies for generations. That is hard to resist. 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Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 2:57:42 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 16:55 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: That?s not what you wrote, Carl. You wrote that if I am against Trump, then I am against Christ. That?s a true non sequitur. Your conclusion in no way derived from your premise. It is right to hate evil. The left is evil we can see that in this Fauci Ouchie and id card nonsense. As to the enemies of GOD being likewise the enemies of Trump that is correct. Your point seems to be that I disallow for foolish Christians to be against Trump. Well I do have Chicago Catholic Democrat family but there are indications of them repenting of this sin they did not recognize as such. Afterall all their schooling, local culture and even their priests have reenforced Democrat lies for generations. That is hard to resist. But there is some hope as they break from the Catholic church and join Willow Creek and get out from under the shroud of the dark side aka Marxism. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Tue Apr 12 18:40:38 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 00:40:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] In-Reply-To: <1649798498.26150.12.camel@linux-7k5b.site> References: <1649690340.22282.4.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <822024687.511959.1649691599173@mail.yahoo.com> <1649798498.26150.12.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: <1758510411.300305.1649810438607@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Carl, you need to get back up to speed. Fauci is seen for the utter fool that he is. The Ukrainian War is really "Plan B." -----Original Message----- From: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Tue, Apr 12, 2022 5:21 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] On Mon, 2022-04-11 at 15:39 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: ??????????????????????? The elites used Covid to bring about "The Great Reset" and that didn't work out so well, did it? Now, this Ukrainian war is Plan B.? I thought Plan B was the World unHealthy Organization creating a world Fauci identification card (see 666). | -- Carl? Spitzer ? ___????????????? _???????????????????????????????????? ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? ()????? o??????????????????? |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_?? |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? |? ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /|?????????? ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \|?? Democrat is SIN and TREASON | _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Or tell Dennis he has to leave Georgia? Who?s going to do > all of this? Trump? Doesn?t he live in Florida? Then perhaps only blood will end this. But considering leftists are disarmed cowards I would think a nation of their own would be welcome except they want our money. Its money which drove the War for Independence. They are already picking a fight with invalid elections and fraudulent presidents and governors. Also I am not for giving them a large reservation but a small overcrowded east coast with all they hold dear criminals, taxes, no guns, no fossil fuels etc. I prefer a peaceful solution but surrendering freedom is not now or ever on the table. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I do prefer to keep the best parts for those who want freedom and give liberals the east coast so they can cozy up to Europe and keep warm by the fire of Owl Gores global warming preaching nightly in the winter. Moving them to Mars is not practical at this time where they could have a perfectly pristine Eco system and warm it up with global warming religion and turn themselves into fertilizer for their new Mars Mother goddess religion. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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No, thanks! > I have an empty lot just south of Tampa. I'll go there, > instead............ California is too good for the left they need to move to the east coast to cozy up to the EU and its socialism. CWSIV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Tue Apr 19 12:57:09 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 11:57:09 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] In-Reply-To: <1758510411.300305.1649810438607@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1649690340.22282.4.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <822024687.511959.1649691599173@mail.yahoo.com> <1649798498.26150.12.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1758510411.300305.1649810438607@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1650394629.26318.26.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Wed, 2022-04-13 at 00:40 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: > Carl, you need to get back up to speed. Fauci > is seen for the utter fool that he is. The Ukrainian War is really > "Plan B." How is this little scrap going to kill off enough people especially conservatives so liberals can rule?? At least its mostly PINKO who have weakened their immune systems with the Fauci ouchie to die and let us keep freedom. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Tue Apr 19 12:59:59 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 11:59:59 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? In-Reply-To: <1174032629.258245.1649603255103@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2110286668.231641.1649559880048.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2110286668.231641.1649559880048@mail.yahoo.com> <1174032629.258245.1649603255103@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1650394799.26318.28.camel@linux-7k5b.site> On Sun, 2022-04-10 at 15:07 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: > Dennis, we need more conservatives like you up > here. Pennsylvania can go red, if that happens. Washington County > (where I live) already has and for a while, now. Go east young liberal and leave the West and freedom to the Americans. -- | | \ \ /\_/\ | /\_/\ | | ~x~ |/-----\ / | ~x~ |/-----\ / \ /-Jazmine \_/ \ /- Carl \_/ / _ ____ / / _ ____ / | |/ | | | |/ | | _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The former Cardinal, who was defrocked due to sexual abuse, spoke at several events hosted by the group, with excerpts of his remarks earning publication in CEFC China Energy?s journal, ?China Eye.? McCarrick has asserted commonalities exist between Communist and Catholic doctrine along with drawing positive parallels between Xi Jinping and the Pope. McCarrick also served as an envoy for negotiations between the Chinese Communist Party and the Vatican over establishing formal ties, with many criticizing the final deal as a ?slap in the face? to China?s Catholics. The establishment of formal relations between the two entities follow McCarrick?s robust involvement with CEFC China Energy. CEFC?s Deputy Chairman and Secretary-General is Dr. Patrick Ho, dubbed ?the f**king spy chief of China? in exclusive audio released by The National Pulse from Hunter Biden?s ?Hard Drive from Hell.? Ho appears multiple times in the e-mails as the pair inked million-dollar contracts, earning Hunter Biden the position of ?Managing Director? at CEFC by 2018. The Chinese Communist Party operative was later indicted by the U.S. Department of Justice for ?schemes to bribe top officials for business advantages,? and used the committee ?to conceal his criminal schemes, according to the Department of Justice. Get On Gettr McCarrick spoke at several CEFC events including the New York Forum on World Civilizations in 2012 and Sino-US Colloquium on Core Values and World Order in 2013. A 2014 edition of CEFC?s ?China Eye? Journal contains an excerpt from McCarrick?s speech from 2013. ?It is a special pleasure to be back with the China Energy Fund,? he began his speech before praising the ?brilliant? Patrick Ho. ?I do not have the brilliance or the learning to match Patrick, but I?m just going to take out a couple of things that I think would be important and perhaps stimulating as we begin our discussion today,? he added. MUST READ: EXCLUSIVE: Hunter Biden Bio Firm Partnered With Ukrainian Researchers ?Isolating Deadly Pathogens? Using Funds From Obama's Defense Department. CEFC JOURNAL. McCarrick proceeds to draw parallels between Xi and the Pope: ?I have seen President Xi with a number, with meeting ordinary people; I have seen him on the streets in pictures of streets of Shanghai or _ or places like that. You see the Holy Father too in the areas: him in Brazil, where he leaves his entourages and plunges into the midst of a group of people who are very, thank God, who love him and who want to be with him but you know you always can get one who doesn?t love him and who wants to get rid of him, and that?s of course is the problem of notoriety and of power today. So they are both people who are willing to talk to the ordinary people, to those who are not in government, and they are also willing to look at society in a new way. The Holy Father continues to talk about reforming the different parts of the Church; President Xi talks very often, as far as I read, in reforming part of the government, reforming the way that power is exercised and the way that it is shared with the different agencies. And each of them has a new vision so that not only is our world faced with a large Christianity of more than a billion and a large China of more than a billion, but these great masses of human beings, brothers and sisters all, they share this new vision and, and I have to put it into words, this is where the difficulty comes.? While pushing for closer collaboration McCarrick, also posits that ?connections? exists between ?doctrines of Catholics and the Communist doctrine?: MUST READ: WATCH: Rep. Gaetz Rips FBI Cyber Director Who Claims He Doesn't Know Where Hunter Biden's Laptop Is. ?Now all these different comparisons and these different connections between, let us say, the Catholic Church, which I can speak from because I belong to it and have belonged to it sometimes when you get as old as I am you think for centuries, but let me just look at it, just for a moment, even doctrines of Catholics and the Communist doctrine.? McCarrick also spoke at a conference at the United Nations headquarters in New York, which outlined its objective as finding ?harmony based on shared values ? beyond national identities and beliefs: a dialogue between Confucianism and Christianity.? McCarrick speaking at NY Forum. The event?s now-deleted promotional page describes laying the groundwork for a ?new harmonious relationship based on mutual respect and appreciation? between the Chinese Communist Party and the U.S.: ?Confucianism and Christianity, two civilizations with great influences around the world, have both different and common features between them. Dialogue and exchange between the two civilizations in the era of globalization will be pivotal to promote communications and understanding leading to a new harmonious relationship based on mutual respect and appreciation. It can provide the very foundation necessary to build a new and sustainable relationship as the world is becoming a global village.? Excerpts from McCarrick?s speech were published in the group?s October 2013 journal, which included praise for Chairman Ho?s emphasis on open dialogue in an op-ed the convicted criminal wrote for state-run media outlet China Daily: ?Dr. Ho in his op-ed piece in ?China Daily? spoke of dialogue. Quoting the Chinese scholar Tu Weiming, Ho says that dialogue ?is an extremely common experience in interpersonal encounters, in which self-awareness is heightened and our ability to understand others is deepened.? Also in attendance at the 2012 event was the co-founder of the Journal of Ecumenical Studies Leonard Swidler and former member of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops John Borelli. Fund Real News Natalie Winters Natalie Winters is the Lead Investigative Reporter at the National Pulse and co-host of The National Pulse podcast. https://thenationalpulse.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Tue Apr 19 13:03:25 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 19:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] =?utf-8?q?Trump_insists_Ukraine_crisis_would_not_have?= =?utf-8?q?_happened_while_he_was_president=3A_=E2=80=98I_know_Putin_very_?= =?utf-8?b?d2VsbOKAmQ==?= In-Reply-To: <1650394395.26318.23.camel@linux-7k5b.site> References: <1648375084.7197.0.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1648579575.2242.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <8016905.1212908.1648587191472@mail.yahoo.com> <1648832926.628.7.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1322808779.642353.1648842795725@mail.yahoo.com> <1147874129.697899.1648855745296@mail.yahoo.com> <1649340172.30529.38.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1799304774.2175269.1649354660983@mail.yahoo.com> <1650394395.26318.23.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: <1697459117.1017252.1650395005680@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Gore lives in Nashville, so he's not that far up the east coast................. -----Original Message----- From: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2022 2:53 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] Trump insists Ukraine crisis would not have happened while he was president: ?I know Putin very well? On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 18:36 +0000, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: But I think Carl wants to put the libs on the east coast, methinks that implies ?go west young man?. I do prefer to keep the best parts for those who want freedom and give liberals the east coast so they can cozy up to Europe and keep warm by the fire of Owl Gores global warming preaching nightly in the winter. Moving them to Mars is not practical at this time where they could have a perfectly pristine Eco system and warm it up with global warming religion and turn themselves into fertilizer for their new Mars Mother goddess religion. | -- Carl? Spitzer ? ___????????????? _???????????????????????????????????? ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? ()????? o??????????????????? |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_?? |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? |? ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /|?????????? ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \|?? Democrat is SIN and TREASON | _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Tue Apr 19 13:37:44 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 19:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] In-Reply-To: <1650394629.26318.26.camel@linux-7k5b.site> References: <1649690340.22282.4.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <822024687.511959.1649691599173@mail.yahoo.com> <1649798498.26150.12.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1758510411.300305.1649810438607@mail.yahoo.com> <1650394629.26318.26.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: <1344850633.1020563.1650397064344@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? It's the terrorism and disruption of life that they're after. Another opportunity for the great unwashed to get the government to do something to save them. -----Original Message----- From: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2022 2:57 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] On Wed, 2022-04-13 at 00:40 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: ??????????????????????? Carl, you need to get back up to speed. Fauci is seen for the utter fool that he is. The Ukrainian War is really "Plan B." How is this little scrap going to kill off enough people especially conservatives so liberals can rule?? At least its mostly PINKO who have weakened their immune systems with the Fauci ouchie to die and let us keep freedom. | -- Carl? Spitzer ? ___????????????? _???????????????????????????????????? ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? ()????? o??????????????????? |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_?? |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? |? ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /|?????????? ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \|?? 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As Milton Friedman said nearly 50 years ago, ?there is one and only one social responsibility of business -- to use its resources and engage in activities designed to increase its profits so long as it stays within the rules of the game, which is to say, engages in open and free competition without deception fraud.? In Friedman?s view, corporations should be focused on maximizing profits by providing goods and services to customers based on market demand. He also emphasizes that this model functions best in a free and fair market. This is commonly called ?shareholder capitalism,? and it is one of the primary reasons that the United States has become the most prosperous nation in world history. Despite the fact that America?s embrace of shareholder capitalism since its inception has led to it becoming the most dynamic and innovative economy ever, many elites believe it is time to replace shareholder capitalism with what they deem ?stakeholder capitalism.? Believe it or not, the notion of stakeholder capitalism is not a novel concept. Many scholars trace its origins to the Progressive era heyday of the early twentieth century, when so-called experts sought to re-engineer society based on their assumptions of how things should be. For whatever reason, shareholder capitalism was not replaced with stakeholder capitalism during the twentieth century. However, vast inroads were definitely made. Fast-forward to 2022. Stakeholder capitalism is being resurrected by a new group of global elites who wish to use it for their gain. Unlike during the Progressive era, when corporations were wary of stakeholder capitalism, they are now embracing it fully. Why? In short, stakeholder capitalism allows corporations to ?game? the market in their favor. If shareholder capitalism is predicated on companies meeting the desires of individuals in the open market, stakeholder capitalism is predicated on elites determining what is best for individuals, market be damned. Of course, this closed loop system is a boon for CEOs, elites, and those with access to the levers of power. However, it also undermines the will of the vast majority of Americans. Perhaps this is why the American people overwhelmingly do not support stakeholder capitalism. According to a new poll conducted by Rasmussen Reports and the Heartland Institute, 45 percent of likely voters -- a solid plurality -- believe ?the highest priority for businesses in the United States? should be ?providing individual consumers with high quality products and services at the lowest prices.? On the same token, 14 percent said, ?earning a profit to benefit shareholders or owners.? On the other hand, only 1 percent of likely voters said ?using business resources to pursue social justice causes,? which is the embodiment of stakeholder capitalism. This should alarm global elites, who are going full throttle with their plans to remake the world economy via stakeholder capitalism. Over the past few years, global institutions such as the World Economic Forum and International Monetary Fund have put all of their eggs in the stakeholder capitalism basket. Despite their claims that stakeholder capitalism will produce a ?more inclusive, sustainable, and resilient global economy,? the opposite is true. What these elites fail to mention, but the American people apparently understand, is that concentrating economic and social power in the hands of a small group of elites is a very bad idea. For elites, CEOs, central bankers, institutional investors, and other power brokers, stakeholder capitalism offers them a two for one deal. First, they exert greater control over the global market, which vastly increases their power and wealth. Second, they get to virtue signal to their heart?s content, because they can claim they are doing this for the noble cause of social justice. Although many of these CEOs and the like might believe that stakeholder capitalism is in the best interest of the masses, they are mistaken. Actually, the power-hungry people who yearn to remake the world economy with stakeholder capitalism, like almost all utopian visions that have been tried, are destined to fail because it is impossible for a small group of know-it-alls to determine what is best for the rest of us. The one and only way to ensure that humans can thrive to their best of their ability is to create a free and fair market, in which the ?invisible hand? guides the direction of the economy. After hundreds of years of astonishing success, we should be celebrating shareholder capitalism for all of the remarkable achievements it has helped usher into our lives. More importantly, we should oppose all of those who long to upend shareholder capitalism and replace it with a scheme that centralizes decision making while enhancing their power, prestige, and prosperity. Chris Talgo (ctalgo at heartland.org) is senior editor at The Heartland Institute. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/01/shareholder_capitalism_v_stakeholder_capitalism.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Fri Apr 22 08:04:31 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2022 07:04:31 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] Some other views on the Ukraine issue. Message-ID: <1650636271.10839.1.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Putin: Russia stands for demilitarization of Ukraine https://tass.com/russia/1408629 Putin ally says Ukraine's demilitarisation only way to prevent war in Europe https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-ally-says-ukraines-demilitarisation-only-way-prevent-war-europe-2022-02-24/ Kremlin: Putin ready to negotiate deal over Ukraine?s neutrality, demilitarization https://www.politico.eu/article/vladimir-putin-moscow-negotiate-kyiv-ukraine-russia-neutrality/ Just in case you want to read news outside the Biden policy distraction lying Trump hating media. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Medford offsets the message with a disclaimer noting it ?may or may not have the approval of the GLTB community.? JUNE 2017 EMAIL. In full, the email reads: Disclaimer: The following message is not intended to offend anyone and is for informational purposes only. It may or may not have the approval of the GLTB community. Gents, The hour is almost upon us, where we at some point may bear witness to fagots holding hands and dikes bumping claims. Anyway, just want to pass along a few details concerning this weekend. Get On Gettr Beach House Address: [REDACTED] Beach House Landline: [REDACTED] My Cell Phone: [REDACED] For those even thinking of getting a little work done over the weekend, you will have access to high-speed wifi internet, printing capabilites and an on-site IT specialist with a 48-hour response time. Looking forward to a great weekend! -William A separate email from Hunter sent two days before the aforementioned email reveals that the president?s son intended on attending the event, noting ?I am actually excited to be with you all now.? Hunter?s Email. In full, the email reads: Hey Ashley, I know I?m a little late in responding to this email BUT I was scrolling back through these emails for just such a gem as this. Did you just refer to yourself in the third person as ASHMAN? I want to be certain I didn?t misread the email, but if I didn?t I just want to warn you that I am going to start a campaign to tease you mercilessly as only Beau could all weekend long. You may cry at one point t and hold you as we stroll the boardwalk of ?Reho.? What the fuck is Reho? Just fair warning. I am actually excited to be with you all now. Thanks Assman. Love you, The Hunkmeister?? The latest revelations come as the corporate media establishment refuse to cover the Hunter Biden messages that show the President?s son repeatedly using the n-word. MUST READ: Biden: 'There's Going to Be a New World Order'. In his zero-selling book, Hunter Biden elaborates upon how he went on drug-fueled escapades around Washington, D.C. while making money off his family name. He admits in the book that he would not have been offered the positions and contracts he was, had he not been a Biden. Fund Real News Natalie Winters and Raheem Kassam Raheem Kassam is the Editor in Chief of the National Pulse. Natalie Winters is a Senior Writing Fellow. https://thenationalpulse.com/2021/06/09/biden-emails-show-friends-mocking-fgots-and-dikes/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: > Gore lives in Nashville, so he's not that far > up the east coast................. That's a music town. Clinton still has his saxophone lip. So what is there for Owl Bore to do there no one needs his religion unless that city is blue stupid. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Sat Apr 23 08:45:35 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2022 14:45:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] In-Reply-To: <1650724242.11114.37.camel@linux-7k5b.site> References: <1649690340.22282.4.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <822024687.511959.1649691599173@mail.yahoo.com> <1649798498.26150.12.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1758510411.300305.1649810438607@mail.yahoo.com> <1650394629.26318.26.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1344850633.1020563.1650397064344@mail.yahoo.com> <1650724242.11114.37.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: <1757600319.443803.1650725135534@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Carl, look above you sometime. Chemtrails are already being used........https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2014/06/chemtrails-vs-contrails/ -----Original Message----- From: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Sat, Apr 23, 2022 10:30 am Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] On Tue, 2022-04-19 at 19:37 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: It's the terrorism and disruption of life that they're after. Another opportunity for the great unwashed to get the government to do something to save them. So let our unwashed liberals move to Europe, Venesuala and Cuba. China is busting at the seams they need to thin their herd by 2/3rds. First Fauci the sick and elderly then spray liberally the overcrowded areas with aerosol of flu. I wonder if our government will be that obvious or use chemtrails?? | -- Carl? Spitzer ? ___????????????? _???????????????????????????????????? ?/ (_)??????????? | |?????? ()????? o??????????????????? |????? __,?? ,_?? | |?????? /\?? _??? _|_? __?? _?? ,_?? |???? /? |? /? |? |/?????? /? \|/ \_|? |? / / _|/? /? |? ?\___/\_/|_/?? |_/|__/??? /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/?? |_/ ????????????????????????????? /|??????????? /|?????????? ????????????????????????????? \|??????????? \|?? 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Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: > Carl, look above you sometime. Chemtrails are > already being > used........https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2014/06/chemtrails-vs-contrails/ But not yet to kill off the Fauci-ed half of the population. Seems to have backfired mostly liberals took the jab so if the globalists try to reduce the population freedom would increase as PINKO's decreased.. If those who wanted freedom had taken the jab then the globalists would have won by releasing flu and killing us off. Sometimes these globalist traitors make dumb moves of overreach. CWSIV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 2:21:04 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] On Sat, 2022-04-23 at 14:45 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: Carl, look above you sometime. Chemtrails are already being used........https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2014/06/chemtrails-vs-contrails/ But not yet to kill off the Fauci-ed half of the population. Seems to have backfired mostly liberals took the jab so if the globalists try to reduce the population freedom would increase as PINKO's decreased.. If those who wanted freedom had taken the jab then the globalists would have won by releasing flu and killing us off. Sometimes these globalist traitors make dumb moves of overreach. CWSIV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Sun Apr 24 15:44:30 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] In-Reply-To: References: <1649690340.22282.4.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <822024687.511959.1649691599173@mail.yahoo.com> <1649798498.26150.12.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1758510411.300305.1649810438607@mail.yahoo.com> <1650394629.26318.26.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1344850633.1020563.1650397064344@mail.yahoo.com> <1650724242.11114.37.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1757600319.443803.1650725135534@mail.yahoo.com> <1650835264.4677.28.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: <2072440960.642726.1650836670926@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? My wife, my son, and I all caught the virus. Nothing bad about it. In fact, I lost 12 lbs........ -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Sun, Apr 24, 2022 5:29 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] Took all the jabs. ?Haven?t caught a thing. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 2:21:04 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.]?On Sat, 2022-04-23 at 14:45 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Carl, look above you sometime. Chemtrails are already being used........https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2014/06/chemtrails-vs-contrails/ But not yet to kill off the Fauci-ed half of the population.? Seems to have backfired mostly liberals took the jab so if the globalists try to reduce the population freedom would increase as PINKO's decreased.. If those who wanted freedom had taken the jab then the globalists would have won by releasing flu and killing us off.? Sometimes these globalist traitors make dumb moves of overreach. CWSIV _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Sun Apr 24 16:12:53 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:12:53 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] In-Reply-To: <2072440960.642726.1650836670926@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1649690340.22282.4.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <822024687.511959.1649691599173@mail.yahoo.com> <1649798498.26150.12.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1758510411.300305.1649810438607@mail.yahoo.com> <1650394629.26318.26.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1344850633.1020563.1650397064344@mail.yahoo.com> <1650724242.11114.37.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1757600319.443803.1650725135534@mail.yahoo.com> <1650835264.4677.28.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <2072440960.642726.1650836670926@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You are fortunate. Our son and his best friend both got it. Our son lived, his friend didn?t. We lost our best friend to the virus. I am hard pressed to say there is nothing bad about it. What truly upsets me is that both sides of the aisle have used the virus as yet another political weapon. So damned stupid, on both sides. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 2:44:30 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] My wife, my son, and I all caught the virus. Nothing bad about it. In fact, I lost 12 lbs........ -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Sun, Apr 24, 2022 5:29 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] Took all the jabs. Haven?t caught a thing. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 2:21:04 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] On Sat, 2022-04-23 at 14:45 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: Carl, look above you sometime. Chemtrails are already being used........https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2014/06/chemtrails-vs-contrails/ But not yet to kill off the Fauci-ed half of the population. Seems to have backfired mostly liberals took the jab so if the globalists try to reduce the population freedom would increase as PINKO's decreased.. If those who wanted freedom had taken the jab then the globalists would have won by releasing flu and killing us off. Sometimes these globalist traitors make dumb moves of overreach. CWSIV _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dap1 at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 24 19:25:52 2022 From: dap1 at bellsouth.net (Dennis Putnam) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:25:52 -0400 Subject: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] In-Reply-To: References: <1649690340.22282.4.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <822024687.511959.1649691599173@mail.yahoo.com> <1649798498.26150.12.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1758510411.300305.1649810438607@mail.yahoo.com> <1650394629.26318.26.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1344850633.1020563.1650397064344@mail.yahoo.com> <1650724242.11114.37.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1757600319.443803.1650725135534@mail.yahoo.com> <1650835264.4677.28.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Message-ID: <0eb1d1a1-e56d-767f-ed6d-73534a98b89d@bellsouth.net> Took only the first 2 jabs. Haven't caught a thing. On 4/24/2022 5:29 PM, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: > Took all the jabs. ?Haven?t caught a thing. > > Get Outlook for iOS > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Rushtalk on behalf of Carl > Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk > *Sent:* Sunday, April 24, 2022 2:21:04 PM > *To:* rushtalk at csdco.com > *Cc:* Carl Spitzer {C Juno} > *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] > On Sat, 2022-04-23 at 14:45 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: >> Carl, look above you sometime. Chemtrails are already being >> used.......https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2014/06/chemtrails-vs-contrails/ > > > But not yet to kill off the Fauci-ed half of the population. > Seems to have backfired mostly liberals took the jab so if the > globalists try to reduce the population freedom would increase as > PINKO's decreased.. > If those who wanted freedom had taken the jab then the globalists > would have won by releasing flu and killing us off. > > Sometimes these globalist traitors make dumb moves of overreach. > > CWSIV > > _______________________________________________ > Rushtalk mailing list > Rushtalk at csdco.com > http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OpenPGP_signature Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 203 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Mon Apr 25 07:42:44 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2022 13:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] In-Reply-To: References: <1649690340.22282.4.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <822024687.511959.1649691599173@mail.yahoo.com> <1649798498.26150.12.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1758510411.300305.1649810438607@mail.yahoo.com> <1650394629.26318.26.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1344850633.1020563.1650397064344@mail.yahoo.com> <1650724242.11114.37.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1757600319.443803.1650725135534@mail.yahoo.com> <1650835264.4677.28.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <2072440960.642726.1650836670926@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <280616819.779310.1650894164114@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ?? Stephen, it's a question of nutrition, not politics. I take vitamins C, D, and zinc and so does my family. That's probably the key right there. I am not a doctor, but let's face it - the American diet is full of garbage. GMOs, fast food, high calories........obesity among Americans is frightening. I'm not vaccinated nor will I ever be. There's a lot of garbage in those. Epoch Times has a series on the vaccines and the injuries they've caused - documented proof. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sun, Apr 24, 2022 6:12 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] You are fortunate. ?Our son and his best friend both got it. ?Our son lived, his friend didn?t. ?We lost our best friend to the virus. ?I am hard pressed to say there is nothing bad about it. ?What truly upsets me is that both sides of the aisle have used the virus as yet another political weapon. ?So damned stupid, on both sides. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: John A. Quayle Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 2:44:30 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.]???? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? My wife, my son, and I all caught the virus. Nothing bad about it. In fact, I lost 12 lbs........ -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Sun, Apr 24, 2022 5:29 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] Took all the jabs. ?Haven?t caught a thing. Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 2:21:04 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.]?On Sat, 2022-04-23 at 14:45 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Carl, look above you sometime. Chemtrails are already being used........https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2014/06/chemtrails-vs-contrails/ But not yet to kill off the Fauci-ed half of the population.? Seems to have backfired mostly liberals took the jab so if the globalists try to reduce the population freedom would increase as PINKO's decreased.. If those who wanted freedom had taken the jab then the globalists would have won by releasing flu and killing us off.? Sometimes these globalist traitors make dumb moves of overreach. CWSIV _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Mon Apr 25 09:29:11 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2022 15:29:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] From Epoch Times..... 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URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Mon Apr 25 15:59:59 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2022 21:59:59 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] In-Reply-To: <280616819.779310.1650894164114@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1649690340.22282.4.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <822024687.511959.1649691599173@mail.yahoo.com> <1649798498.26150.12.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1758510411.300305.1649810438607@mail.yahoo.com> <1650394629.26318.26.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1344850633.1020563.1650397064344@mail.yahoo.com> <1650724242.11114.37.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1757600319.443803.1650725135534@mail.yahoo.com> <1650835264.4677.28.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <2072440960.642726.1650836670926@mail.yahoo.com> <280616819.779310.1650894164114@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: IMO - documented BS. Like I wrote, this whole thing has become nothing but politics. Everybody has documented proof. I have documented proof: seen it with my own eyes. Watched it happen. Can?t get better proof than that. But I believe nothing I read about it, and nothing I am told about it. As far as I am concerned it is a left right political hot potato. Thus untrustworthy at every level. There are few, if any, left to trust. Government, NFW. The media, NFW. There have been too many cover-ups, too many lies, too many exaggerations, to many misapplications of statistics. The is no credibility left. And this sentiment is rapidly spreading to almost every issue facing us. There is no one left to trust. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 6:42:44 AM To: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] Stephen, it's a question of nutrition, not politics. I take vitamins C, D, and zinc and so does my family. That's probably the key right there. I am not a doctor, but let's face it - the American diet is full of garbage. GMOs, fast food, high calories........obesity among Americans is frightening. I'm not vaccinated nor will I ever be. There's a lot of garbage in those. Epoch Times has a series on the vaccines and the injuries they've caused - documented proof. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye To: John A. Quayle ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: cwsiv at juno.com Sent: Sun, Apr 24, 2022 6:12 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] You are fortunate. Our son and his best friend both got it. Our son lived, his friend didn?t. We lost our best friend to the virus. I am hard pressed to say there is nothing bad about it. What truly upsets me is that both sides of the aisle have used the virus as yet another political weapon. So damned stupid, on both sides. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: John A. Quayle Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 2:44:30 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: stephen.frye at outlook.com ; cwsiv at juno.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] My wife, my son, and I all caught the virus. Nothing bad about it. In fact, I lost 12 lbs........ -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Frye via Rushtalk To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Stephen Frye ; Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Sent: Sun, Apr 24, 2022 5:29 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] Took all the jabs. Haven?t caught a thing. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 2:21:04 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] On Sat, 2022-04-23 at 14:45 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: Carl, look above you sometime. Chemtrails are already being used........https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2014/06/chemtrails-vs-contrails/ But not yet to kill off the Fauci-ed half of the population. Seems to have backfired mostly liberals took the jab so if the globalists try to reduce the population freedom would increase as PINKO's decreased.. If those who wanted freedom had taken the jab then the globalists would have won by releasing flu and killing us off. Sometimes these globalist traitors make dumb moves of overreach. CWSIV _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.frye at outlook.com Mon Apr 25 16:03:32 2022 From: stephen.frye at outlook.com (Stephen Frye) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2022 22:03:32 +0000 Subject: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] In-Reply-To: <0eb1d1a1-e56d-767f-ed6d-73534a98b89d@bellsouth.net> References: <1649690340.22282.4.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <822024687.511959.1649691599173@mail.yahoo.com> <1649798498.26150.12.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1758510411.300305.1649810438607@mail.yahoo.com> <1650394629.26318.26.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1344850633.1020563.1650397064344@mail.yahoo.com> <1650724242.11114.37.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1757600319.443803.1650725135534@mail.yahoo.com> <1650835264.4677.28.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <0eb1d1a1-e56d-767f-ed6d-73534a98b89d@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: I can say that I don?t know the effectiveness. Have two friends totally unvaccinated: one got COVID, one didn?t. Now we have Fauci questioning the court, the administration threatening masks. It?s all so pointless at this point. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Dennis Putnam via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 6:25:52 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Dennis Putnam Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] Took only the first 2 jabs. Haven't caught a thing. On 4/24/2022 5:29 PM, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Took all the jabs. Haven?t caught a thing. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 2:21:04 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] On Sat, 2022-04-23 at 14:45 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: Carl, look above you sometime. Chemtrails are already being used.......https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2014/06/chemtrails-vs-contrails/ But not yet to kill off the Fauci-ed half of the population. Seems to have backfired mostly liberals took the jab so if the globalists try to reduce the population freedom would increase as PINKO's decreased.. If those who wanted freedom had taken the jab then the globalists would have won by releasing flu and killing us off. Sometimes these globalist traitors make dumb moves of overreach. CWSIV _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dap1 at bellsouth.net Mon Apr 25 16:40:27 2022 From: dap1 at bellsouth.net (Dennis Putnam) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2022 18:40:27 -0400 Subject: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] In-Reply-To: References: <1649690340.22282.4.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <822024687.511959.1649691599173@mail.yahoo.com> <1649798498.26150.12.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1758510411.300305.1649810438607@mail.yahoo.com> <1650394629.26318.26.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1344850633.1020563.1650397064344@mail.yahoo.com> <1650724242.11114.37.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1757600319.443803.1650725135534@mail.yahoo.com> <1650835264.4677.28.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <0eb1d1a1-e56d-767f-ed6d-73534a98b89d@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <9843392e-0adc-b5fc-f68a-d9d08e34c8b4@bellsouth.net> Not pointless for Democrats. They've never had such power. They are drunk with it and won't give it up. Meanwhile the GOP stands around with their fingers up their collective a$$es with only a few exceptions. On 4/25/2022 6:03 PM, Stephen Frye wrote: > I can say that I don?t know the effectiveness. ?Have two friends > totally unvaccinated: one got COVID, one didn?t. ?Now we have Fauci > questioning the court, the administration threatening masks. ?It?s all > so pointless at this point. > > Get Outlook for iOS > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Rushtalk on behalf of Dennis > Putnam via Rushtalk > *Sent:* Sunday, April 24, 2022 6:25:52 PM > *To:* rushtalk at csdco.com > *Cc:* Dennis Putnam > *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] > Took only the first 2 jabs. Haven't caught a thing. > > On 4/24/2022 5:29 PM, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: >> Took all the jabs. ?Haven?t caught a thing. >> >> Get Outlook for iOS >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Rushtalk >> on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C >> Juno} via Rushtalk >> *Sent:* Sunday, April 24, 2022 2:21:04 PM >> *To:* rushtalk at csdco.com >> >> *Cc:* Carl Spitzer {C Juno} >> *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] >> On Sat, 2022-04-23 at 14:45 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: >>> Carl, look above you sometime. Chemtrails are already being >>> used......https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2014/06/chemtrails-vs-contrails/ >> >> >> But not yet to kill off the Fauci-ed half of the population. >> Seems to have backfired mostly liberals took the jab so if the >> globalists try to reduce the population freedom would increase as >> PINKO's decreased.. >> If those who wanted freedom had taken the jab then the globalists >> would have won by releasing flu and killing us off. >> >> Sometimes these globalist traitors make dumb moves of overreach. >> >> CWSIV >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rushtalk mailing list >> Rushtalk at csdco.com >> http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Dennis Putnam Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 3:40 PM To: Stephen Frye; rushtalk at csdco.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] Not pointless for Democrats. They've never had such power. They are drunk with it and won't give it up. Meanwhile the GOP stands around with their fingers up their collective a$$es with only a few exceptions. On 4/25/2022 6:03 PM, Stephen Frye wrote: I can say that I don?t know the effectiveness. Have two friends totally unvaccinated: one got COVID, one didn?t. Now we have Fauci questioning the court, the administration threatening masks. It?s all so pointless at this point. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Dennis Putnam via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 6:25:52 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Dennis Putnam Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] Took only the first 2 jabs. Haven't caught a thing. On 4/24/2022 5:29 PM, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Took all the jabs. Haven?t caught a thing. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 2:21:04 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] On Sat, 2022-04-23 at 14:45 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: Carl, look above you sometime. Chemtrails are already being used......https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2014/06/chemtrails-vs-contrails/ But not yet to kill off the Fauci-ed half of the population. Seems to have backfired mostly liberals took the jab so if the globalists try to reduce the population freedom would increase as PINKO's decreased.. If those who wanted freedom had taken the jab then the globalists would have won by releasing flu and killing us off. Sometimes these globalist traitors make dumb moves of overreach. 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One historically successful way of acquiring and holding power is to divide and conquer. We are certainly divided. In one?s mouth, it takes bacteria about 30 hours to organize and begin their task of dismantling enamel. Dental floss disrupts the organization process. We are the same. The wedge of division has been driven catastrophically deep. Now with CRT, COVID, Ukraine, Hunter Biden, confusion is perpetuated, and organized resistance is all but impossible. Equal overdoses of apathy and arrogance got us here. Some of the apathy has waned. None of the arrogance. That?s still alive and well. We need to shed that in its entirety lest we succumb to tyranny. We have spent years, decades patting ourselves on the back for our self-righteousness, pointing the finger of accusation, waving the finger of condemnation, pointing out our moral, ethical superiority, and look where it has gotten us. Perhaps it?s near time for s change of strategy. Recall the definition of insanity: doing the same things over and over again hoping for a different outcome. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Dennis Putnam Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 3:40 PM To: Stephen Frye; rushtalk at csdco.com Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] Not pointless for Democrats. They've never had such power. They are drunk with it and won't give it up. Meanwhile the GOP stands around with their fingers up their collective a$$es with only a few exceptions. On 4/25/2022 6:03 PM, Stephen Frye wrote: I can say that I don?t know the effectiveness. Have two friends totally unvaccinated: one got COVID, one didn?t. Now we have Fauci questioning the court, the administration threatening masks. It?s all so pointless at this point. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Dennis Putnam via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 6:25:52 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Dennis Putnam Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] Took only the first 2 jabs. Haven't caught a thing. On 4/24/2022 5:29 PM, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Took all the jabs. Haven?t caught a thing. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 2:21:04 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] On Sat, 2022-04-23 at 14:45 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: Carl, look above you sometime. Chemtrails are already being used......https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2014/06/chemtrails-vs-contrails/ But not yet to kill off the Fauci-ed half of the population. Seems to have backfired mostly liberals took the jab so if the globalists try to reduce the population freedom would increase as PINKO's decreased.. If those who wanted freedom had taken the jab then the globalists would have won by releasing flu and killing us off. Sometimes these globalist traitors make dumb moves of overreach. CWSIV _______________________________________________ Rushtalk mailing list Rushtalk at csdco.com http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quaylejohn at aol.com Mon Apr 25 19:13:43 2022 From: quaylejohn at aol.com (John A. Quayle) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 01:13:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] In-Reply-To: <9843392e-0adc-b5fc-f68a-d9d08e34c8b4@bellsouth.net> References: <1649690340.22282.4.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <822024687.511959.1649691599173@mail.yahoo.com> <1649798498.26150.12.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1758510411.300305.1649810438607@mail.yahoo.com> <1650394629.26318.26.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1344850633.1020563.1650397064344@mail.yahoo.com> <1650724242.11114.37.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1757600319.443803.1650725135534@mail.yahoo.com> <1650835264.4677.28.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <0eb1d1a1-e56d-767f-ed6d-73534a98b89d@bellsouth.net> <9843392e-0adc-b5fc-f68a-d9d08e34c8b4@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <1967780499.995974.1650935623769@mail.yahoo.com> ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Exactly, Dennis! Go to the head of the class................ -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Putnam via Rushtalk To: Stephen Frye ; rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Dennis Putnam Sent: Mon, Apr 25, 2022 6:40 pm Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] Not pointless for Democrats. They've never had such power. They are drunk with it and won't give it up. Meanwhile the GOP stands around with their fingers up their collective a$$es with only a few exceptions. On 4/25/2022 6:03 PM, Stephen Frye wrote: I can say that I don?t know the effectiveness. ?Have two friends totally unvaccinated: one got COVID, one didn?t. ?Now we have Fauci questioning the court, the administration threatening masks. ?It?s all so pointless at this point. ? Get Outlook for iOS From: Rushtalk on behalf of Dennis Putnam via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 6:25:52 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Dennis Putnam Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] ? Took only the first 2 jabs. Haven't caught a thing. On 4/24/2022 5:29 PM, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: Took all the jabs. ?Haven?t caught a thing. Get Outlook for iOS From: Rushtalk on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C Juno} via Rushtalk Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 2:21:04 PM To: rushtalk at csdco.com Cc: Carl Spitzer {C Juno} Subject: Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] ? On Sat, 2022-04-23 at 14:45 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Carl, look above you sometime. Chemtrails are already beingused......https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2014/06/chemtrails-vs-contrails/ But not yet to kill off the Fauci-ed half of the population.? Seems to have backfired mostly liberals took the jab so if the globalists try to reduce the population freedom would increase as PINKO's decreased.. If those who wanted freedom had taken the jab then the globalists would have won by releasing flu and killing us off.? Sometimes these globalist traitors make dumb moves of overreach. 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I am > hard pressed to say there is nothing bad about it. What truly upsets > me is that both sides of the aisle have used the virus as yet another > political weapon. So damned stupid, on both sides. The left was not stupid they used the sniffle to promote fascism of a sort we have not had since FDR. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dap1 at bellsouth.net Tue Apr 26 08:45:52 2022 From: dap1 at bellsouth.net (Dennis Putnam) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 10:45:52 -0400 Subject: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] In-Reply-To: References: <1649690340.22282.4.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <822024687.511959.1649691599173@mail.yahoo.com> <1649798498.26150.12.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1758510411.300305.1649810438607@mail.yahoo.com> <1650394629.26318.26.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1344850633.1020563.1650397064344@mail.yahoo.com> <1650724242.11114.37.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <1757600319.443803.1650725135534@mail.yahoo.com> <1650835264.4677.28.camel@linux-7k5b.site> <0eb1d1a1-e56d-767f-ed6d-73534a98b89d@bellsouth.net> <9843392e-0adc-b5fc-f68a-d9d08e34c8b4@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <07e6fc24-5446-473f-a404-bb1eb5568a2c@bellsouth.net> November will tell. Not so much if the GOP retakes Congress but by how many RINOs are primaried out. On 4/25/2022 8:22 PM, Stephen Frye wrote: > Power and greed. ?I think that, in reality, it drives the human race. > ?Paris and Helen may add one more driver. ?Dems are drunk with power. > One historically successful way of acquiring and holding power is to > divide and conquer. ?We are certainly divided. > > In one?s mouth, it takes bacteria about 30 hours to organize and begin > their task of dismantling enamel. ?Dental floss disrupts the > organization process. > > We are the same. ?The wedge of division has been driven > catastrophically deep. ?Now with CRT, COVID, Ukraine, Hunter Biden, > confusion is perpetuated, and organized resistance is all but impossible. > > Equal overdoses of apathy and arrogance got us here. ?Some of the > apathy has waned. ?None of the arrogance. ?That?s still alive and > well. ?We need to shed that in its entirety lest we succumb to tyranny. > > We have spent years, decades patting ourselves on the back for our > self-righteousness, pointing the finger of accusation, waving the > finger of condemnation, pointing out our moral, ethical superiority, > and look where it has gotten us. ?Perhaps it?s near time for s change > of strategy. ?Recall the definition of insanity: doing the same things > over and over again hoping for a different outcome. > > Get Outlook for iOS > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Dennis Putnam > *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2022 3:40 PM > *To:* Stephen Frye; rushtalk at csdco.com > *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] > Not pointless for Democrats. They've never had such power. They are > drunk with it and won't give it up. Meanwhile the GOP stands around > with their fingers up their collective a$$es with only a few exceptions. > > On 4/25/2022 6:03 PM, Stephen Frye wrote: >> I can say that I don?t know the effectiveness. ?Have two friends >> totally unvaccinated: one got COVID, one didn?t. ?Now we have Fauci >> questioning the court, the administration threatening masks. ?It?s >> all so pointless at this point. >> >> Get Outlook for iOS >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Rushtalk on behalf of Dennis >> Putnam via Rushtalk >> *Sent:* Sunday, April 24, 2022 6:25:52 PM >> *To:* rushtalk at csdco.com >> *Cc:* Dennis Putnam >> *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] >> Took only the first 2 jabs. Haven't caught a thing. >> >> On 4/24/2022 5:29 PM, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote: >>> Took all the jabs. ?Haven?t caught a thing. >>> >>> Get Outlook for iOS >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* Rushtalk >>> on behalf of Carl Spitzer {C >>> Juno} via Rushtalk >>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 24, 2022 2:21:04 PM >>> *To:* rushtalk at csdco.com >>> >>> *Cc:* Carl Spitzer {C Juno} >>> *Subject:* Re: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: There's no fool like an old fool.] >>> On Sat, 2022-04-23 at 14:45 +0000, John A. Quayle via Rushtalk wrote: >>>> Carl, look above you sometime. Chemtrails are already being >>>> used.....https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2014/06/chemtrails-vs-contrails/ >>> >>> >>> But not yet to kill off the Fauci-ed half of the population. >>> Seems to have backfired mostly liberals took the jab so if the >>> globalists try to reduce the population freedom would increase as >>> PINKO's decreased.. >>> If those who wanted freedom had taken the jab then the globalists >>> would have won by releasing flu and killing us off. >>> >>> Sometimes these globalist traitors make dumb moves of overreach. >>> >>> CWSIV >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rushtalk mailing list >>> Rushtalk at csdco.com >>> http://galene.csd.net/mailman/listinfo/rushtalk >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In Texas we?d be some old couple with a small collection of guns and nowhere near 3nough smm0. Anybody read about the Sheriff in Florida? My kind of law enforcement. We need more of that. Personally I think that break-If you go to bubble bubble bubble Connor Street I never would?ve gottenins and follow-homes would drop dramatically if, all of a sudden, there was mortal risk for the criminal. Get Outlook for iOS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Thu Apr 28 18:16:35 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:16:35 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] The Democrats Are Trying to Hide a Very Dirty Secret About Electric Cars Message-ID: <1651191395.21094.12.camel@linux-7k5b.site> The Democrats Are Trying to Hide a Very Dirty Secret About Electric Cars Matt Vespa Matt Vespa | @mvespa1 | The Democrats Are Trying to Hide a Very Dirty Secret About Electric CarsSource: AP Photo/Michael Probst The Left views electric cars like the Rings of Power. It?s predictable but also pathetic. Driving electric cars saves the environment, says the left-wing drone. It emits next to nothing regarding carbon emissions, except that it does. Do liberals think we don?t know that this whole fad is a con game? Where do you think the energy that powers the batteries comes from? Fairies? Electric cars aren?t as efficient as gas-powered vehicles, but you pay more because?of feelings. Screw that. Green energy is a backdoor to communism from greenies who talk more about controlling the means of production than saving Mother Earth. Clean energy is a grift and political crony project aimed at giving fat cat donors tax breaks. Solyndra forever ruined this industry. I don?t care what anyone says, it?s all a long miserable exercise in subsidizing sub-par products. Coal is what powers your electric car. Do liberals even know that? The very people who mock states like West Virginia don?t seem to know that these areas allow them to drive their precious, overpriced electric cars (via The Federalist): To advance their climate agenda and deflect backlash about rising gas prices, Democrats are telling Americans that driving electric cars is for the greater good of the environment, fully knowing the charging stations for these cars are not fossil fuel free. In reality, one of Tesla?s Supercharger stations was reported to get 13 percent of their energy from natural gas and 27 percent from coal. Power plants burn coal to generate electricity to power electric cars and emit a higher fossil fuel footprint than the left would care to admit. While these vehicles may be falsely advertised, many who invest in these overpriced cars are able to avoid paying the currently outrageous gas prices. Still, Americans? growing reliance on electric cars and the batteries they require will increase our dependence on countries such as China for materials. ?Chinese companies, particularly CATL, have secured vast supplies of the raw materials that go inside the batteries,? The New York Times reported in December. ?That dominance has stirred fears in Washington that Detroit could someday be rendered obsolete, and that Beijing could control American driving in the 21st century the way that oil-producing nations sometimes could in the 20th.? By increasing our use of electric cars, the United States will require more lithium batteries and will further rely on China to sustain our supply. Well, isn?t that peachy. Liberals seem to have the yellow fever when it comes to China, or at least they?re a bit kinky when it comes to their wanting to be dominated by this country. Gas prices began to soar when Joe Biden took a hatchet to the Keystone Pipeline and our own oil and gas industry. That?s just a fact. Recommended Malaise: Any Fleeting Biden Polling Bounce Is Officially Gone Guy Benson With the Ukraine war raging now, and sanctions being slapped on Russia for their invasion, the line the Biden White House is selling right now is ?if you worried about $8/gallon for gas, you should buy a?$50k+ electric car.? It?s almost too good to be true. You cannot make it up. The Democrats? plan to ease gas price pain for a large swath of Americans is to force them to buy vehicles they can?t afford. A part of that is due to liberals being idiots. The other part is that it shows how the Democratic Party doesn?t know working people anymore. It?s all urban-based, rich, over-educated, and very white people making these snide remarks. The professional Left is the Democratic Party?and these people view those who drive pick-up trucks as neo-Nazis. The dirty little secret is that a lot of fossil fuels are used to power the liberal delusions behind their electric car fetish. The Federalist did a great job sifting through the nonsense. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Thu Apr 28 18:22:04 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:22:04 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] [Fwd: Public Transportation] Message-ID: <1651191724.21094.15.camel@linux-7k5b.site> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Quayle) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rushtalk] Vaccines References: <727703701.2352298.1651327926714.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <727703701.2352298.1651327926714@mail.yahoo.com> | | HEALTH VIEWPOINTS | | | | | | Good News: Vaccine Lies Are Finally Falling | | By Meryl Nass | | SHARE?(Friends Read for Free) ? ? ? ? READ MORE | | | | | | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwsiv at juno.com Sat Apr 30 08:11:22 2022 From: cwsiv at juno.com (Carl Spitzer {C Juno}) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2022 07:11:22 -0700 Subject: [Rushtalk] Here is Why Liberty Will Prevail Message-ID: <1651327882.1999.17.camel@linux-7k5b.site> Here is Why Liberty Will Prevail https://www.bitchute.com/video/Zwf18HbZ80qo/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sky News Australia anchor and Investigations Writer at The Australian, Sharri has been at the forefront of investigating the origins of COVID-19 since early in 2020 when the virus spread globally. Since that time, the precise genesis of COVID-19 has been hotly contested, with scientists, government officials, the World Health Organization, and the Chinese authorities releasing conflicting reports. In a coup for Australian television, Sharri secures the first sit-down interview for an Australian broadcast media outlet with Donald Trump since he was elected president in 2016. Sharri also speaks with a range of Chinese whistle-blowers, scientists, and high-ranking intelligence officials to bring us closer to discovering the truth of what happened in Wuhan. These include John Ratcliffe, the U.S. Director of National Intelligence from 2020 to 2021, and former head of British intelligence service, Mi6, Sir Richard Dearlove. The lies like the residency of Biden just keep falling apart. Soon no one will be obliged to obey government not even in America. -- Carl Spitzer ___ _ / (_) | | () o | __, ,_ | | /\ _ _|_ __ _ ,_ | / | / | |/ / \|/ \_| | / / _|/ / | \___/\_/|_/ |_/|__/ /(__/|__/ |_/|_/ /_/ |__/ |_/ /| /| \| \| Democrat is SIN and TREASON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: