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climate has been changing since this planet was a molten ball of
mud and will continue to change until humans are extinct. It is
not climate change that is in dispute which is why the left uses
that term instead of what they really want us to believe. It has
become politicized to advance a leftist agenda. The very few data
points available are mostly negative correlations of <b>MAN-CAUSED</b>
climate change.<br>
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As to the China virus there is no disputing that it too has become
politicized and that the Democrats are using it to justify
unprecedented power in order to suppress Constitutional rights and
getting away with it.<br>
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On 11/14/2020 5:57 PM, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote:<br>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">Well, it demonstrates some
correlation, but we all know from basic statistics that
correlation does not imply causation �That said, I am
neither confirming nor denying your claim. �I don�t know. �I
don�t think there are enough data points to form a good
theory. �We have far more data points for climate, and we�ll
go to our graves denying it. �Germany locked down, virus
spread subsided. �They opened almost everything, and it has
reserved - maybe even worse than the first round. �The only
five countries in Europe I can speak about are Finland,
Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, and Germany. �The other four
are all warning their citizens not to go to the Netherlands;
far too many transmissions there.</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">A lot of cases, a lot of
opinions, a lot of conclusions. �Like I said, we�ll all tend
to align with the ones that suit us.</div>
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<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">Well we can draw on experience.
Lock downs were tried here an in Europe and neither worked.
Sweden did not lock down and they are better than the rest of
Europe regarding hospitalizations and deaths. Hard to draw
more than one conclusion based on those facts.<br>
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<div style="direction:ltr">He�s right about at least one
thing: �science becomes secondary to politics. �I
know, I know: ��experts say ...�. �The problem
is that we can always find a plethora of experts who
will tell us exactly what we want to hear - never fails.
�The issues get totally politicized, and then no one
will ever back down. �Both sides dig in their heels,
cite their own selected experts, and any hope of
progress and/or agreement is lost �We, family and I,
are at a point we really don�t know what to believe.
�We�re never sure of any �expert�s� motives.
�We have two great MDs in our immediate family, and
they disagree with each other. �And both of their
opinions totally disagree with their personal politics.</div>
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people detest being told what to do, and it�s even
harder to determine what is real and what is simply
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<h1 class="x_x_entry-title">Fauci Dismisses Americans'
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Do What You're Told'</h1>
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<div><font size="6">Americans need to learn obedience,
according to Dr. Anthony Fauci.</font></div>
<div><font size="6">Fauci, the director of the National
Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and a
White House coronavirus adviser, said that the size
and character of America make it difficult to simply
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<div><font size="6">�I was talking with my U.K.
colleagues who are saying the U.K. is similar to
where we are now, because each of our countries have
that independent spirit,� he said Thursday,
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<div><font size="6">�I can understand that, but now is
the time to do what you�re told,� he said.</font></div>
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way,� he said, adding that in the early months of
the pandemic, not enough was done to limit the
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<div><font size="6">�I think every family unit needs to
do a risk assessment,� he said, taking into effect
factors such as the age of those attending, any
underlying health conditions and the extent of travel
needed to bring everyone together.</font></div>
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<div><font size="6">�You may want to make a decision
that you�re just going to forestall it � now
whenever I say that I�m the grinch that stole
Thanksgiving,� he said. �I�m not saying that.
I�m saying everyone needs to seriously think about
the risk-benefit.�</font></div>
<div><font size="6">Fauci said there�s nothing wrong
with erring on the side of caution.</font></div>
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<div><font size="6">�You might say,�� he continued,
�I had a wonderful Thanksgiving last year. I�m
looking forward to a wonderful Thanksgiving next year.
But maybe right now is not the time to have 25 people
in a house when you take your mask off as you�re
eating.�</font></div>
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reaction on Twitter.</font></div>
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not cancelled in the Browning household. Sorry,
Fauci.</font></div>
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Fauci: Don�t invite your kids home from college
for Thanksgiving. Pay for their turkey and Zoom or
Skype it. It�s not worth spreading the virus.
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which the virus would be allowed to spread to build up
enough immunity in the nation that the virus
eventually is no longer a threat � is not a good
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<div><font size="6">�It sounds simple in the context of
this ominous outbreak but in fact we can turn it
around,� he said according to CNBC.</font></div>
<div><font size="6">Fauci was upbeat about a vaccine from
Pfizer that the company has said was 90 percent
effective.</font></div>
<div><font size="6">�When people know that help is on
the way � I hope we can get over the COVID
fatigue,� he said.</font></div>
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