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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Just a minor correction. We know the
      climate has been changing since this planet was a molten ball of
      mud and will continue to change until humans are extinct. It is
      not climate change that is in dispute which is why the left uses
      that term instead of what they really want us to believe. It has
      become politicized to advance a leftist agenda. The very few data
      points available are mostly negative correlations of <b>MAN-CAUSED</b>
      climate change.<br>
      <br>
      As to the China virus there is no disputing that it too has become
      politicized and that the Democrats are using it to justify
      unprecedented power in order to suppress Constitutional rights and
      getting away with it.<br>
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      On 11/14/2020 5:57 PM, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote:<br>
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          <div style="direction: ltr;">Well, it demonstrates some
            correlation, but we all know from basic statistics that
            correlation does not imply causation �That said, I am
            neither confirming nor denying your claim. �I don�t know. �I
            don�t think there are enough data points to form a good
            theory. �We have far more data points for climate, and we�ll
            go to our graves denying it. �Germany locked down, virus
            spread subsided. �They opened almost everything, and it has
            reserved - maybe even worse than the first round. �The only
            five countries in Europe I can speak about are Finland,
            Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, and Germany. �The other four
            are all warning their citizens not to go to the Netherlands;
            far too many transmissions there.</div>
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          <div style="direction: ltr;">A lot of cases, a lot of
            opinions, a lot of conclusions. �Like I said, we�ll all tend
            to align with the ones that suit us.</div>
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        <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">Well we can draw on experience.
          Lock downs were tried here an in Europe and neither worked.
          Sweden did not lock down and they are better than the rest of
          Europe regarding hospitalizations and deaths. Hard to draw
          more than one conclusion based on those facts.<br>
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          On 11/14/2020 2:36 PM, Stephen Frye via Rushtalk wrote:<br>
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              <div style="direction:ltr">He�s right about at least one
                thing: �science becomes secondary to politics. �I
                know, I know: ��experts say ...�. �The problem
                is that we can always find a plethora of experts who
                will tell us exactly what we want to hear - never fails.
                �The issues get totally politicized, and then no one
                will ever back down. �Both sides dig in their heels,
                cite their own selected experts, and any hope of
                progress and/or agreement is lost �We, family and I,
                are at a point we really don�t know what to believe.
                �We�re never sure of any �expert�s� motives.
                �We have two great MDs in our immediate family, and
                they disagree with each other. �And both of their
                opinions totally disagree with their personal politics.</div>
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              <div style="direction:ltr">Add to that the fact that most
                people detest being told what to do, and it�s even
                harder to determine what is real and what is simply
                non-conformity.</div>
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              <h1 class="x_x_entry-title">Fauci Dismisses Americans'
                Independent Spirit, Tells Citizens 'Now Is the Time To
                Do What You're Told'</h1>
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                  Fauci, director of National Institute of Allergy and
                  Infectious Diseases at NIH, testifies at a Senate
                  Health, Education, and Labor and Pensions Committee on
                  Capitol Hill, on Sept. 23, in Washington, D.C."
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                  Fauci, director of National Institute of Allergy and
                  Infectious Diseases at NIH, testifies at a Senate
                  Health, Education, and Labor and Pensions Committee on
                  Capitol Hill, on Sept. 23, in Washington, D.C. (Graeme
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                <div><font size="6">Americans need to learn obedience,
                    according to Dr. Anthony Fauci.</font></div>
                <div><font size="6">Fauci, the director of the National
                    Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and a
                    White House coronavirus adviser, said that the size
                    and character of America make it difficult to simply
                    shut down the entire nation.</font></div>
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                <div><font size="6">�I was talking with my U.K.
                    colleagues who are saying the U.K. is similar to
                    where we are now, because each of our countries have
                    that independent spirit,� he said Thursday,
                    according to
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                <div><font size="6">�I can understand that, but now is
                    the time to do what you�re told,� he said.</font></div>
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                      U.S. has �independent spirit,� but now is the
                      time to �do what you�re told�
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                <div><font size="6">Fauci said America �had too much
                    individual approaches towards how we were going to
                    handle the outbreak,� according to
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                <div><font size="6">�We did not act in a unified
                    way,� he said, adding that in the early months of
                    the pandemic, not enough was done to limit the
                    spread of the virus.</font></div>
                <div><font size="6">Fauci said the image of scientists
                    and health experts as �authoritarian� by
                    Americans was a problem because science �has been
                    lumped into politics,� according to CNBC.</font></div>
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                    political view</a> in a very divided society, he
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              <div><font size="6">�All of a sudden science gets caught
                  in a lot of this divisiveness.�</font></div>
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              <div><font size="6">Fauci said he is not calling for a
                  mass shutdown, as has been proposed by some members of
                  presumptive potential President-elect Joe Biden�s
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              <div><font size="6">�I think every family unit needs to
                  do a risk assessment,� he said, taking into effect
                  factors such as the age of those attending, any
                  underlying health conditions and the extent of travel
                  needed to bring everyone together.</font></div>
              <div class="x_x_article-extras x_x_related"><font size="6"><strong><br>
                  </strong></font></div>
              <div><font size="6">�You may want to make a decision
                  that you�re just going to forestall it � now
                  whenever I say that I�m the grinch that stole
                  Thanksgiving,� he said. �I�m not saying that.
                  I�m saying everyone needs to seriously think about
                  the risk-benefit.�</font></div>
              <div><font size="6">Fauci said there�s nothing wrong
                  with erring on the side of caution.</font></div>
              <div><font size="6"><br>
                </font></div>
              <div><font size="6">�You might say,�� he continued,
                  �I had a wonderful Thanksgiving last year. I�m
                  looking forward to a wonderful Thanksgiving next year.
                  But maybe right now is not the time to have 25 people
                  in a house when you take your mask off as you�re
                  eating.�</font></div>
              <div><font size="6">The infectious disease expert drew a
                  reaction on Twitter.</font></div>
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                <div dir="ltr" lang="en"><font size="6">Thanksgiving is
                    not cancelled in the Browning household. Sorry,
                    Fauci.</font></div>
                <div><font size="6">� Dean Browning (@DeanBrowningPA)
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                <div dir="ltr" lang="en"><font size="6">Listen to Dr.
                    Fauci: Don�t invite your kids home from college
                    for Thanksgiving. Pay for their turkey and Zoom or
                    Skype it. It�s not worth spreading the virus.
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                      November 11, 2020</a></font></div>
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              <div><font size="6">Trying to achieve herd immunity � in
                  which the virus would be allowed to spread to build up
                  enough immunity in the nation that the virus
                  eventually is no longer a threat � is not a good
                  option, he said.</font></div>
              <div><font size="6"><br>
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              <div><font size="6">�It sounds simple in the context of
                  this ominous outbreak but in fact we can turn it
                  around,� he said according to CNBC.</font></div>
              <div><font size="6">Fauci was upbeat about a vaccine from
                  Pfizer that the company has said was 90 percent
                  effective.</font></div>
              <div><font size="6">�When people know that help is on
                  the way � I hope we can get over the COVID
                  fatigue,� he said.</font></div>
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